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bogus headscarf scandal
by Guest Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:56 pm
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/28/opinion/ghitis-michelle-obama-saudi/
Let's now put an end to the discussion about Michelle Obama. She did absolutely nothing wrong. In fact, the claim that her attire and performance created a firestorm in Saudi Arabia is plainly false. By some counts, there were some 1,500 tweets with the Arabic hashtag #ميشيل_أوباما_سفور, which means roughly #Michelle_Obama_Unveiled. That is hardly a Twitterstorm, considering that Saudi Arabia has more than 5 million Twitter users.
Second, the first lady followed protocol. Saudi law does not require foreign visitors to wear a hijab, the Muslim headscarf. This was no protocol breach, and it was also not an unusually courageous move on her part. Countless prominent women have appeared in public meeting Saudi royals without wearing headscarves. We've seen Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, Angela Merkel, among others, visit the kingdom in Western attire.
Finally, that handshake: The King would not have shaken hands with Michelle Obama if he had not wanted to do so. In fact, we saw an endless parade of dignitaries shake the President's hand and walk right past the first lady, bluntly, rudely, ignoring her. That is a breach of etiquette. But it was not committed by the first lady or by King Salman.
So it looks like this is the scandal that wasn't. A non-tempest, if you will. But there was a teapot.
The story made headlines because people in the United States and in the West feel a scandal in the relationship, because much of what goes on in Saudi Arabia is an affront not just to Western principles but to human rights conventions endorsed by most of the world. And some of the most egregious violations of those values are perpetrated against Saudi women.
Let's now put an end to the discussion about Michelle Obama. She did absolutely nothing wrong. In fact, the claim that her attire and performance created a firestorm in Saudi Arabia is plainly false. By some counts, there were some 1,500 tweets with the Arabic hashtag #ميشيل_أوباما_سفور, which means roughly #Michelle_Obama_Unveiled. That is hardly a Twitterstorm, considering that Saudi Arabia has more than 5 million Twitter users.
Second, the first lady followed protocol. Saudi law does not require foreign visitors to wear a hijab, the Muslim headscarf. This was no protocol breach, and it was also not an unusually courageous move on her part. Countless prominent women have appeared in public meeting Saudi royals without wearing headscarves. We've seen Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, Angela Merkel, among others, visit the kingdom in Western attire.
Finally, that handshake: The King would not have shaken hands with Michelle Obama if he had not wanted to do so. In fact, we saw an endless parade of dignitaries shake the President's hand and walk right past the first lady, bluntly, rudely, ignoring her. That is a breach of etiquette. But it was not committed by the first lady or by King Salman.
So it looks like this is the scandal that wasn't. A non-tempest, if you will. But there was a teapot.
The story made headlines because people in the United States and in the West feel a scandal in the relationship, because much of what goes on in Saudi Arabia is an affront not just to Western principles but to human rights conventions endorsed by most of the world. And some of the most egregious violations of those values are perpetrated against Saudi women.
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Re: bogus headscarf scandal
by Seva Lamberdar Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:11 pm
This reminds me of a story by an Indian woman (a Hindu) at a party a while back. She went to visit her husband in Saudi Arabia where he was working. She was carrying a copy of the Bhagavad Gita (BG) with her. It was in Hindi / Sanskrit and had a picture of Lord Krishna on the front. At the entry port in Saudi Arabia, the official (a Saudi guy) saw the book (BG) and asked her about it. When she told that it was her scriptural book, he took the book and tossed it into the garbage can and asked her to move on.
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Re: bogus headscarf scandal
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Thu Jan 29, 2015 4:34 pm
Seva Lamberdar wrote:This reminds me of a story by an Indian woman (a Hindu) at a party a while back. She went to visit her husband in Saudi Arabia where he was working. She was carrying a copy of the Bhagavad Gita (BG) with her. It was in Hindi / Sanskrit and had a picture of Lord Krishna on the front. At the entry port in Saudi Arabia, the official (a Saudi guy) saw the book (BG) and asked her about it. When she told that it was her scriptural book, he took the book and tossed it into the garbage can and asked her to move on.
Mian Daud and his Mutual Partner Maulana Mir-alat-DaruAllah applaud this action, and want this to be implemented in India so as to comfort the "secular" people.
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Re: bogus headscarf scandal
by Guest Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:41 pm
Is this for real?Seva Lamberdar wrote:This reminds me of a story by an Indian woman (a Hindu) at a party a while back. She went to visit her husband in Saudi Arabia where he was working. She was carrying a copy of the Bhagavad Gita (BG) with her. It was in Hindi / Sanskrit and had a picture of Lord Krishna on the front. At the entry port in Saudi Arabia, the official (a Saudi guy) saw the book (BG) and asked her about it. When she told that it was her scriptural book, he took the book and tossed it into the garbage can and asked her to move on.
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Re: bogus headscarf scandal
by Seva Lamberdar Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:33 am
Other than the above, she also mentioned about her having to go out of the house (in Saudi Arabia) always wearing something over the head because of the fear that she might be ridiculed (even tapped on the head with a stick by a policeman) if her head was not covered properly.Kinnera wrote:Is this for real?Seva Lamberdar wrote:This reminds me of a story by an Indian woman (a Hindu) at a party a while back. She went to visit her husband in Saudi Arabia where he was working. She was carrying a copy of the Bhagavad Gita (BG) with her. It was in Hindi / Sanskrit and had a picture of Lord Krishna on the front. At the entry port in Saudi Arabia, the official (a Saudi guy) saw the book (BG) and asked her about it. When she told that it was her scriptural book, he took the book and tossed it into the garbage can and asked her to move on.
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Re: bogus headscarf scandal
by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:57 am
If the immigration guy is a devout Wahabi Muslim, he did the right thing. He was trying to eliminate false propaganda by Satan against the true word of God. He is saving her from going to burn in eternal hell.Kinnera wrote:Is this for real?Seva Lamberdar wrote:This reminds me of a story by an Indian woman (a Hindu) at a party a while back. She went to visit her husband in Saudi Arabia where he was working. She was carrying a copy of the Bhagavad Gita (BG) with her. It was in Hindi / Sanskrit and had a picture of Lord Krishna on the front. At the entry port in Saudi Arabia, the official (a Saudi guy) saw the book (BG) and asked her about it. When she told that it was her scriptural book, he took the book and tossed it into the garbage can and asked her to move on.
What he did is not that different from what Ghazni, Ghori and the Taliban (in Bamoyan), etc., did.
If a Muslim tells you that the Saudi official was not doing the right thing, he is LYING.
She was lucky that he didn't give her the book with the true words of God and she discarded it in front of him. If that were to happen, the guy with the halal knife will have fun doing God's pieceful work.
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Re: bogus headscarf scandal
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:46 pm
Kinnera wrote:Is this for real?Seva Lamberdar wrote:This reminds me of a story by an Indian woman (a Hindu) at a party a while back. She went to visit her husband in Saudi Arabia where he was working. She was carrying a copy of the Bhagavad Gita (BG) with her. It was in Hindi / Sanskrit and had a picture of Lord Krishna on the front. At the entry port in Saudi Arabia, the official (a Saudi guy) saw the book (BG) and asked her about it. When she told that it was her scriptural book, he took the book and tossed it into the garbage can and asked her to move on.
Of course...you never heard such stories.... I have seen people having pic of Ganesha or MAXE favorite Balaji stuck inside the glove box. If it is stuck outside and noticed by a cop, the car will be gone and you will be dragged into a court.
They look for drugs (from African passengers) and Holy books (from non Arab, non-white foreigners). Luckily any book, pictures will be torn or thrown in the garbage.
Wonder what they will do with pictures in cell phones of passengers...
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