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Post by ashdoc on Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:31 am

http://english.manoramaonline.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/kareena-saif-ali-trolled-over-baby-name-taimur-ali.html

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka on Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:45 am

May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....

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Post by silvermani on Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:34 pm

What someone names their child is a matter of personal choice but in this case, it seems like a poor choice. given that these people are celebrities enjoying love and affection from the public, they could shown some sensitivity and picked a better name. But overall, this shows what goes on through the minds of Indian Muslims - even the wealthy, educated, "secular" ones seem to be closet worshipers of the most barbaric invaders of India.
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Post by silvermani on Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:36 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....
Maybe the Khans worship barbaric invaders. They are so proud of their central asian "warrior" origins. Plunder and slaughter gives them a wet dream.
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Post by Rashmun on Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:33 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....

If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!

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Post by smArtha on Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:54 pm

Rashmun wrote:


If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!

Also, if Akbar or Aurangazeb discriminate their own subjects they are The Great. If NaMo even seems to do so he is Mr. Evil.

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Post by southindian on Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:27 pm

ashdoc wrote:http://english.manoramaonline.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/kareena-saif-ali-trolled-over-baby-name-taimur-ali.html
What's the problem if they call their son a donkey?
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Post by FluteHolder on Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:12 pm

silvermani wrote:What someone names their child is a matter of personal choice but in this case, it seems like a poor choice. given that these people are celebrities enjoying love and affection from the public, they could shown some sensitivity and picked a better name. But overall, this shows what goes on through the minds of Indian Muslims - even the wealthy, educated, "secular" ones seem to be closet worshipers of the most barbaric invaders of India.
Agree. I wonder why cannot they find any names associated with a +ve historical figure? I wonder anyone named Genghis khan though Mongolia has it on their currency.

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Post by FluteHolder on Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:18 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....

If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!
While in ancient conflicts, most Hindu Kings were strict on the rules of war (not killing women/children and I am sure there would be quite a few kings who did not follow these rules). But in contrary, majority of Muslim invaders had no such rules and everyone else was a kafir and right to be killed..

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Post by ashdoc on Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:53 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....

If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!
the scale of destruction caused by krisnadevaraya is nothing compared to that caused by taimurlang . taimurlang literally used to build towers of skulls of people he killed .

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Post by Rashmun on Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:09 pm

ashdoc wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....

If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!
the scale of destruction caused by krisnadevaraya is nothing compared to that caused by taimurlang . taimurlang literally used to build towers of skulls of people he killed .

he was trying to save lives by building the tower(s) of skulls. the idea was to intimidate future territories he would attack into surrendering without fighting. If a kingdom surrendered without fighting, Timur would not kill anyone. He would only loot. All kings throughout the ancient and medieval world indulged in looting.

as for the killings that he did, there is a joke about the people of Orissa suing Biharis for a huge amount of money for the wide scale carnage caused in their land during the time when the great Emperor Ashoka conquered Kalinga (modern Orissa) and made it a part of his kingdom. Ashoka's capital was in modern Bihar.

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Post by Idéfix on Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:44 pm

One of the Boston Marathon bombers was also named after this guy.
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Post by garam_kuta on Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:13 pm

Rashmun wrote:
ashdoc wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....

If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!
the scale of destruction caused by krisnadevaraya is nothing compared to that caused by taimurlang . taimurlang literally used to build towers of skulls of people he killed .

he was trying to save lives by building the tower(s) of skulls. the idea was to intimidate future territories he would attack into surrendering without fighting. If a kingdom surrendered without fighting, Timur would not kill anyone. He would only loot. All kings throughout the ancient and medieval world indulged in looting.

as for the killings that he did, there is a joke about the people of Orissa suing Biharis for a huge amount of money for the wide scale carnage caused in their land during the time when the great Emperor Ashoka conquered Kalinga (modern Orissa) and made it a part of his kingdom. Ashoka's capital was in modern Bihar.

rrr...right - as long as they're not your family members' skulls - same theme with the atomic bomb, twice, yeah saving lives No

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Post by Merlot Daruwala on Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:21 am

silvermani wrote:What someone names their child is a matter of personal choice but in this case, it seems like a poor choice. given that these people are celebrities enjoying love and affection from the public, they could shown some sensitivity and picked a better name. But overall, this shows what goes on through the minds of Indian Muslims - even the wealthy, educated, "secular" ones seem to be closet worshipers of the most barbaric invaders of India.

Jinglebells, there was no India back then. The new millennium's new center of power in the subcontinent was Delhi whose rulers were, shall we say, less than gentlemanly in their ways.

As you chaddis love to recount while breastbeating limpwristedly, the Delhi Sultanate with its Turkic barbarian army killed, maimed, raped and plundered its way through the Hindu kingdoms of Gujarat, Devagiri, the Kakatiyas, the Hoysalas etc. Taimur and his Mongolian hordes laid waste to that much hated Delhi Sultanate.

And today, eight centuries later, it hurts your sensitivities when someone names a baby after the the killer of those Hindu-killers?? Are you sure you are not Upps Aunty in a new handle?
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Post by ashdoc on Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:08 am

pakistanis are already making fun of indians on echarcha regarding this issue---

http://www.echarcha.com/forum/showpost.php?p=683549&postcount=84

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man on Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:55 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
silvermani wrote:What someone names their child is a matter of personal choice but in this case, it seems like a poor choice. given that these people are celebrities enjoying love and affection from the public, they could shown some sensitivity and picked a better name. But overall, this shows what goes on through the minds of Indian Muslims - even the wealthy, educated, "secular" ones seem to be closet worshipers of the most barbaric invaders of India.

Jinglebells, there was no India back then. The new millennium's new center of power in the subcontinent was Delhi whose rulers were, shall we say, less than gentlemanly in their ways.

As you chaddis love to recount while breastbeating limpwristedly, the Delhi Sultanate with its Turkic barbarian army killed, maimed, raped and plundered its way through the Hindu kingdoms of Gujarat, Devagiri, the Kakatiyas, the Hoysalas etc. Taimur and his Mongolian hordes laid waste to that much hated Delhi Sultanate.

And today, eight centuries later, it hurts your sensitivities when someone names a baby after the the killer of those Hindu-killers?? Are you sure you are not Upps Aunty in a new handle?

I see some circle jerker Delhi sultanate nut huggers here.
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Post by Hellsangel on Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:05 am

Taimur simply means लोहा. It is common enough among Central Asians. Cengiz is also  a popular enough name among Central Asians.

No big deal. Alexander is a popular name the world over. Probably in a few centuries, the use of Adolf will resume.


And let's not forget Osama is still a very common name.
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Post by southindian on Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:05 am

Rashmun wrote:
ashdoc wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....

If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!
the scale of destruction caused by krisnadevaraya is nothing compared to that caused by taimurlang . taimurlang literally used to build towers of skulls of people he killed .
he was trying to save lives by building the tower(s) of skulls. the idea was to intimidate future territories he would attack into surrendering without fighting. If a kingdom surrendered without fighting, Timur would not kill anyone. He would only loot. All kings throughout the ancient and medieval world indulged in looting.

as for the killings that he did, there is a joke about the people of Orissa suing Biharis for a huge amount of money for the wide scale carnage caused in their land during the time when the great Emperor Ashoka conquered Kalinga (modern Orissa) and made it a part of his kingdom. Ashoka's capital was in modern Bihar.
Idiot,
Were you born an asshole, or is this an age-related disease that can be ignored.
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Post by Rashmun on Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:10 am

southindian wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
ashdoc wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be, like Aurangajeb, Taimur worshiped Kafir lingams. You should check with the Sikular Historian on SuCh....

If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!
the scale of destruction caused by krisnadevaraya is nothing compared to that caused by taimurlang . taimurlang literally used to build towers of skulls of people he killed .
he was trying to save lives by building the tower(s) of skulls. the idea was to intimidate future territories he would attack into surrendering without fighting. If a kingdom surrendered without fighting, Timur would not kill anyone. He would only loot. All kings throughout the ancient and medieval world indulged in looting.

as for the killings that he did, there is a joke about the people of Orissa suing Biharis for a huge amount of money for the wide scale carnage caused in their land during the time when the great Emperor Ashoka conquered Kalinga (modern Orissa) and made it a part of his kingdom. Ashoka's capital was in modern Bihar.
Idiot,
Were you born an asshole, or is this an age-related disease that can be ignored.

are you opposed to freedom of speech and expression? if not, are you incapable of discussing historical issues without getting abusive?

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Post by southindian on Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:33 am

Rashmun wrote:
southindian wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
ashdoc wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

If Krishnadeva Raya conquers and plunders foreign territories, he is a great king. If Timur does the same he is wicked and evil. Jai Ho!
the scale of destruction caused by krisnadevaraya is nothing compared to that caused by taimurlang . taimurlang literally used to build towers of skulls of people he killed .
he was trying to save lives by building the tower(s) of skulls. the idea was to intimidate future territories he would attack into surrendering without fighting. If a kingdom surrendered without fighting, Timur would not kill anyone. He would only loot. All kings throughout the ancient and medieval world indulged in looting.

as for the killings that he did, there is a joke about the people of Orissa suing Biharis for a huge amount of money for the wide scale carnage caused in their land during the time when the great Emperor Ashoka conquered Kalinga (modern Orissa) and made it a part of his kingdom. Ashoka's capital was in modern Bihar.
Idiot,
Were you born an asshole, or is this an age-related disease that can be ignored.

are you opposed to freedom of speech and expression? if not, are you incapable of discussing historical issues without getting abusive?
Nope! I have nothing against your drivel and stupidity you are capable of. Please continue.
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Post by silvermani on Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:56 pm

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
silvermani wrote:What someone names their child is a matter of personal choice but in this case, it seems like a poor choice. given that these people are celebrities enjoying love and affection from the public, they could shown some sensitivity and picked a better name. But overall, this shows what goes on through the minds of Indian Muslims - even the wealthy, educated, "secular" ones seem to be closet worshipers of the most barbaric invaders of India.

Jinglebells, there was no India back then. The new millennium's new center of power in the subcontinent was Delhi whose rulers were, shall we say, less than gentlemanly in their ways.

As you chaddis love to recount while breastbeating limpwristedly, the Delhi Sultanate with its Turkic barbarian army killed, maimed, raped and plundered its way through the Hindu kingdoms of Gujarat, Devagiri, the Kakatiyas, the Hoysalas etc. Taimur and his Mongolian hordes laid waste to that much hated Delhi Sultanate.

And today, eight centuries later, it hurts your sensitivities when someone names a baby after the the killer of those Hindu-killers?? Are you sure you are not Upps Aunty in a new handle?

Verbal Diarrheawali, were you a rudaali in your previous life? Have you ever posted without mentioning "limpwristed breastbeating"? 
Anyways, back on topic - I have no issues whatsoever with anyone naming their children anything. However, the couple being celebrities, I said they could have shown some sensitivity to their child's name being offensive to people. it is and will be a PR problem for them and it is likely the child will be teased and taunted for having such a name. To the point of there being no India back then - it is assumed that in this context, people will understand that India means "what is present day India". Unless they are a nitpicky douchebag with a need to assert smug self superiority.
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Post by FluteHolder on Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:09 pm

Just curious. Was Aurangzeb more or less cruel than  Taimur? Has anyone named their Kid as Aurangzeb in recent years?

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Post by Rashmun on Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:12 pm

FluteHolder wrote:Just curious. Was Aurangzeb more or less cruel than  Taimur? Has anyone named their Kid as Aurangzeb in recent years?

neither Aurangzeb nor Timur were as cruel as the hindu kings Ajatashatru of Magadha and Vidudabha of Kosala--these hindu kings killed their own fathers.

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Post by silvermani on Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:23 pm

FluteHolder wrote:Just curious. Was Aurangzeb more or less cruel than  Taimur? Has anyone named their Kid as Aurangzeb in recent years?
I have a friend named Shahjahan. He is a great cook, and a very nice guy. Jahangir, Akbar, Humayun, and even Babar have been used recently but not Aurangazeb. There are some Hindus with the last name Aurangabadkar to denote their place of origin.
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Post by Rashmun on Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:32 pm

silvermani wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:Just curious. Was Aurangzeb more or less cruel than  Taimur? Has anyone named their Kid as Aurangzeb in recent years?
I have a friend named Shahjahan. He is a great cook, and a very nice guy. Jahangir, Akbar, Humayun, and even Babar have been used recently but not Aurangazeb. There are some Hindus with the last name Aurangabadkar to denote their place of origin.

https://twitter.com/naqshzeb

https://twitter.com/AurangzebH


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Post by ashdoc on Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:17 am

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/pakistan-born-author-tarek-fateh-slams-kareena-and-saif-for-naming-their-son-taimur/articleshow/56114051.cms

tarek fateh slams the couple

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Post by Merlot Daruwala on Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:17 am

silvermani wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
silvermani wrote:What someone names their child is a matter of personal choice but in this case, it seems like a poor choice. given that these people are celebrities enjoying love and affection from the public, they could shown some sensitivity and picked a better name. But overall, this shows what goes on through the minds of Indian Muslims - even the wealthy, educated, "secular" ones seem to be closet worshipers of the most barbaric invaders of India.

Jinglebells, there was no India back then. The new millennium's new center of power in the subcontinent was Delhi whose rulers were, shall we say, less than gentlemanly in their ways.

As you chaddis love to recount while breastbeating limpwristedly, the Delhi Sultanate with its Turkic barbarian army killed, maimed, raped and plundered its way through the Hindu kingdoms of Gujarat, Devagiri, the Kakatiyas, the Hoysalas etc. Taimur and his Mongolian hordes laid waste to that much hated Delhi Sultanate.

And today, eight centuries later, it hurts your sensitivities when someone names a baby after the the killer of those Hindu-killers?? Are you sure you are not Upps Aunty in a new handle?

Verbal Diarrheawali, were you a rudaali in your previous life? Have you ever posted without mentioning "limpwristed breastbeating"? 
Anyways, back on topic - I have no issues whatsoever with anyone naming their children anything. However, the couple being celebrities, I said they could have shown some sensitivity to their child's name being offensive to people. it is and will be a PR problem for them and it is likely the child will be teased and taunted for having such a name. To the point of there being no India back then - it is assumed that in this context, people will understand that India means "what is present day India". Unless they are a nitpicky douchebag with a need to assert smug self superiority.

Which people, Jinglebells? Who in present day India sheds tears for the much hated Delhi Sultanate (other than you and your Tughlaq-dynasty-ass-licking ilk)??

The phrase "limpwristed breastbeating" also seems to offend you a lot. Very delicate and sensitive you are, Jinglebells. To respect your very delicate sensibilities, I will use the short form: LWBB. But in the longer run, you (and your ilk) can make the phrase go away by simply not whining about the victimization of Hindus.
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