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Post by silvermani on Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:54 pm

President Trump seems to be a compassionate man who cares about people. 

James Comey’s public testimony exonerates President Trump of obstruction of justice. To put it simply, “hoping” that something happens is not a crime. The law demands much more than that. Felony obstruction requires that the person seeking to obstruct a law enforcement investigation act “corruptly.” The statute specifically defines what that includes: threats, lies, bribes, destruction of documents, and altering or concealing evidence. None of that is alleged by Comey. Instead, the fired FBI Director recounts how President Trump expressed compassion for the man he dismissed as his National Security Adviser, calling Michael Flynn “a good guy” who “has been through a lot.”
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man on Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:05 pm

Faux news is bad for the brain. Wean yourself gently and slowly.
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Post by Idéfix on Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:21 pm

Imagine going into the office of your boss's boss for a meeting with your boss and other people. Your boss's boss is the CEO. At the end of the meeting be asks to soak to you alone and asks your boss to leave. 

He starts off saying, many people want your job. I hope you will do X.

You don't walk out of there thinking, he didn't really ask me to do X. 

Willing suspension of common sense is what it takes to believe otherwise. If you believe Trump said what Comey says, there is no benign explanation. Stop pretending that there is.
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Post by Idéfix on Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:27 pm

Comey did not exonerate Trump. He accused Trump of firing him because he was investigating his campaign's ties to Russia, and of lying about the reasons for the firing. He established that Trump asked him for a loyalty pledge, asked him to let Flynn go, and asked him to help lift the cloud on him of the Russia investigation. All serious charges.
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Post by Idéfix on Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:33 pm

Republicans are beginning to understand what's what. Soon you will pick up talking points about this.

Karl Rove: ‘Trump lacks the focus or self-discipline to do the basic work required of a president’
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/337077-karl-rove-trump-lacks-the-focus-or-self-discipline-to-do-the
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Post by Idéfix on Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:11 pm

Trevor Noah nailed it. 

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Post by Propagandhi711 on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:17 am

there wasnt a smile on a single republican today at the hearing even when jokes were cut. they see the writing on the wall, 36% approval ratings 5 months into a presidency will have consequences. you should bet your last dollar on it.

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Post by Propagandhi711 on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:39 am

former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to

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Post by southindian on Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:52 am

silvermani wrote:President Trump seems to be a compassionate man who cares about people. 

James Comey’s public testimony exonerates President Trump of obstruction of justice. To put it simply, “hoping” that something happens is not a crime. The law demands much more than that. Felony obstruction requires that the person seeking to obstruct a law enforcement investigation act “corruptly.” The statute specifically defines what that includes: threats, lies, bribes, destruction of documents, and altering or concealing evidence. None of that is alleged by Comey. Instead, the fired FBI Director recounts how President Trump expressed compassion for the man he dismissed as his National Security Adviser, calling Michael Flynn “a good guy” who “has been through a lot.”
What an asshole!

The only person who can say this after listening to Comey testimony is either saying while trying to hold his laughter with tongue in cheek OR is a fucking moron.

Pick which one are you.
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Post by Idéfix on Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:25 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to
Even the ones defending him in public with ridiculous statements like "he's new to this" are shocked and worried...

Forget what the White House thinks of yesterday’s testimony. We spent the day in the Capitol, talking to Republican members of Congress -- the ones that have to vote on President Donald Trump’s agenda -- and they were absolutely shocked at how poorly yesterday went for the president. Publicly they say that the president is a political neophyte who is still learning the presidency. But privately, they said James Comey was extraordinarily convincing and Trump’s team absolutely botched their response. They’re all afraid of more shoes dropping.

http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/playbook/2017/06/09/breaking-trump-fires-back-at-comey-despite-so-many-false-statements-and-lies-total-and-complete-vindication-and-he-brands-comey-a-leaker-chaos-in-uk-election-theresa-may-likely-staying-as-pm-220746
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Re: Comey exonerates Trump – so much for obstruction

Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka on Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:10 am

Propagandhi711 wrote:former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to
Looking at how Trump behaved in the past, I think he will try all kinds of tricks to get his way. His lawyers are already taking Comey to the court for "leaking". If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case. If it turns out that Flynn, Sessions and others close to Trump are all involved, politically Trump is heavily damaged and RNC won't risk losing in the congressional elections. So, he will either resign or be impeached. In England, the Brexit' mood is changing. PM May lost some seats in yesterday's election. So, there may also be a change in the minds of voters in bimaru red states in the US. (However, in a CNN townhall, yesterday, 9/9 Ohio voters said that they still support Trump!).

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Post by garam_kuta on Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:26 am

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to
Looking at how Trump behaved in the past, I think he will try all kinds of tricks to get his way. His lawyers are already taking Comey to the court for "leaking". If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case. If it turns out that Flynn, Sessions and others close to Trump are all involved, politically Trump is heavily damaged and RNC won't risk losing in the congressional elections. So, he will either resign or be impeached. In England, the Brexit' mood is changing. PM May lost some seats in yesterday's election. So, there may also be a change in the minds of voters in bimaru red states in the US. (However, in a CNN townhall, yesterday, 9/9 Ohio voters said that they still support Trump!).

scratch "...If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case...." scratch how?



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Post by silvermani on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:05 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to
Looking at how Trump behaved in the past, I think he will try all kinds of tricks to get his way. His lawyers are already taking Comey to the court for "leaking". If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case. If it turns out that Flynn, Sessions and others close to Trump are all involved, politically Trump is heavily damaged and RNC won't risk losing in the congressional elections. So, he will either resign or be impeached. In England, the Brexit' mood is changing. PM May lost some seats in yesterday's election. So, there may also be a change in the minds of voters in bimaru red states in the US. (However, in a CNN townhall, yesterday, 9/9 Ohio voters said that they still support Trump!).
Good to see loyalty towards President Trump despite the relentless witch-hunt.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man on Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:34 pm

silvermani wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to
Looking at how Trump behaved in the past, I think he will try all kinds of tricks to get his way. His lawyers are already taking Comey to the court for "leaking". If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case. If it turns out that Flynn, Sessions and others close to Trump are all involved, politically Trump is heavily damaged and RNC won't risk losing in the congressional elections. So, he will either resign or be impeached. In England, the Brexit' mood is changing. PM May lost some seats in yesterday's election. So, there may also be a change in the minds of voters in bimaru red states in the US. (However, in a CNN townhall, yesterday, 9/9 Ohio voters said that they still support Trump!).
Good to see loyalty towards President Trump despite the relentless witch-hunt.

It's not a witch-hunt. It's putting a pig in its pen.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka on Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:01 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to
Looking at how Trump behaved in the past, I think he will try all kinds of tricks to get his way. His lawyers are already taking Comey to the court for "leaking". If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case. If it turns out that Flynn, Sessions and others close to Trump are all involved, politically Trump is heavily damaged and RNC won't risk losing in the congressional elections. So, he will either resign or be impeached. In England, the Brexit' mood is changing. PM May lost some seats in yesterday's election. So, there may also be a change in the minds of voters in bimaru red states in the US. (However, in a CNN townhall, yesterday, 9/9 Ohio voters said that they still support Trump!).

scratch "...If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case...."  scratch how?


For harassment and ruining reputation through tweets, wrongful dismissal, court cases, etc. Trump is known to settle cases with $......

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Post by SomeProfile on Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:49 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
silvermani wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to
Looking at how Trump behaved in the past, I think he will try all kinds of tricks to get his way. His lawyers are already taking Comey to the court for "leaking". If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case. If it turns out that Flynn, Sessions and others close to Trump are all involved, politically Trump is heavily damaged and RNC won't risk losing in the congressional elections. So, he will either resign or be impeached. In England, the Brexit' mood is changing. PM May lost some seats in yesterday's election. So, there may also be a change in the minds of voters in bimaru red states in the US. (However, in a CNN townhall, yesterday, 9/9 Ohio voters said that they still support Trump!).
Good to see loyalty towards President Trump despite the relentless witch-hunt.

It's not a witch-hunt. It's putting a pig in its pen.

He is still your President!  rofl

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Post by silvermani on Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:53 pm

SomeProfile wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
silvermani wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:former apologists are slowly vacating the decks without making too much noise. I bet Orange will have a fit over this lack of loyalty, especially after calling napolitano "a talented legal mind":

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337017-napolitano-credible-and-compelling-argument-that-trump-lied-to
Looking at how Trump behaved in the past, I think he will try all kinds of tricks to get his way. His lawyers are already taking Comey to the court for "leaking". If Comey is smart, he should try and get some money out of this case. If it turns out that Flynn, Sessions and others close to Trump are all involved, politically Trump is heavily damaged and RNC won't risk losing in the congressional elections. So, he will either resign or be impeached. In England, the Brexit' mood is changing. PM May lost some seats in yesterday's election. So, there may also be a change in the minds of voters in bimaru red states in the US. (However, in a CNN townhall, yesterday, 9/9 Ohio voters said that they still support Trump!).
Good to see loyalty towards President Trump despite the relentless witch-hunt.

It's not a witch-hunt. It's putting a pig in its pen.

He is still your President!  rofl
And Hillary the crooked career criminal is NOT the President.
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Post by Idéfix on Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:59 pm

On secret recording, House Republican admits Trump’s antics making it hard for her to get reelected

https://thinkprogress.org/martha-mcsally-says-trump-circus-hurting-her-c24e6b00752

According to Tucson Weekly, which obtained a recording of [Rep.] McSally’s [R-AZ] remarks thanks to a source in the room, the second-term congresswoman “complained that President Donald Trump and his tweets were creating troubling ‘distractions’ and ‘it’s basically being taken out on me. Any Republican member of Congress, you are going down with the ship.’”
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Post by silvermani on Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:08 pm

Libs clutching at straws as their wet dream of impeachment comes to an end.
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Post by Idéfix on Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:27 pm

silvermani wrote:Libs clutching at straws as their wet dream of impeachment comes to an end.
That's one strategy... call a Republican congresswoman a "lib" if she says something you don't want to face.
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Post by silvermani on Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:41 pm

Idéfix wrote:
silvermani wrote:Libs clutching at straws as their wet dream of impeachment comes to an end.
That's one strategy... call a Republican congresswoman a "lib" if she says something you don't want to face.
I was talking about CH libs finding comfort with other anti Trump news as their wet dream of impeachment got destroyed.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man on Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:42 pm

silvermani wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
silvermani wrote:Libs clutching at straws as their wet dream of impeachment comes to an end.
That's one strategy... call a Republican congresswoman a "lib" if she says something you don't want to face.
I was talking about CH libs finding comfort with other anti Trump news as their wet dream of impeachment got destroyed.

Nothing is done until Bob Mueller has finished his work.
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