7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

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7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by garam_kuta on Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:32 pm

Wealth Without Work
Pleasure Without Conscience
Knowledge Without Character
Commerce (Business) Without Morality (Ethics)
Science Without Humanity
Religion Without Sacrifice
Politics Without Principle

these got him into trouble with other "leaders" - like ambedkar, tilak, patel, nehru and such...but he remained uncompromising with no concessions.


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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by t w on Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:47 am

if one gets wealth without work, e.g. inheritance and one manages it well (funds, rent, etc.), and doesn't squander it (bad habits, lifestyle, business schemes), then that's work.

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Post by t w on Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:57 am

if pleasure is your religion, then conscience is what you sacrifice, at times bom bom

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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by t w on Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:59 am

if you worry about character, then you don't attain full knowledge, most times. Now how you use that knowledge, that requires a lot of character.

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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by garam_kuta on Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:32 am

Science without humanity is what made me post it.

of course, diverse semantics give different perspectives.

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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka on Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:09 am

t w wrote:if pleasure is your religion, then conscience is what you sacrifice, at times bom bom
Semitic religions made pleasure a sin.
In India, pleasure was comprehensive; Victorian Englishmen couldn't comprehend how erotic stuff could be placed on temples.....

https://lakshmisharath.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/khajuraho-temple-sculptures-1024x678.jpg

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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka on Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:14 am

garam_kuta wrote:Science without humanity is what made me post it.

of course, diverse semantics give different perspectives.
Yeah. If humanity replaces dogma (religion), the world will be a better place. If humanity is linked to individuals seeking enlightenment and is periodically updated taking scientific discoveries into account, that will be even better.

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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by garam_kuta on Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:25 am

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:Science without humanity is what made me post it.

of course, diverse semantics give different perspectives.
Yeah. If humanity replaces dogma (religion), the world will be a better place. If humanity is linked to individuals seeking enlightenment and is periodically updated taking scientific discoveries into account, that will be even better.

Yeah... the development of nukes - that could be the major thrust that must have catalyzed Gandhi saying it, i should think


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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka on Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:21 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:Science without humanity is what made me post it.

of course, diverse semantics give different perspectives.
Yeah. If humanity replaces dogma (religion), the world will be a better place. If humanity is linked to individuals seeking enlightenment and is periodically updated taking scientific discoveries into account, that will be even better.

Yeah... the development of nukes - that could be the major thrust that must have catalyzed Gandhi saying it, i should think

At that time, several Nobel laureates also wrote to the president not to develop nuclear weapons. Until India detonated the nuclear device, her stated policy is for global nuclear disarmament.

My point in the last post was that humanism is the answer and that if it is updated based on new scientific discoveries, it becomes more rationally based and won't deteriorate into dogma.

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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by Idéfix on Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:46 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:Science without humanity is what made me post it.

of course, diverse semantics give different perspectives.
Yeah. If humanity replaces dogma (religion), the world will be a better place. If humanity is linked to individuals seeking enlightenment and is periodically updated taking scientific discoveries into account, that will be even better.

Yeah... the development of nukes - that could be the major thrust that must have catalyzed Gandhi saying it, i should think

Before that, inventions like tanks, warplanes, dynamite, gunpowder, arrows, slingshots, spears, the list goes on...
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Re: 7 "Sins" according to Gandhi

Post by t w on Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:41 pm

yeah.. science should give up on nukes and make things that actually HELP humanity.

e.g. allergy free hair dyes!

study

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