Does this come from our caste system?

Rishi wrote:The short point: our system is designed to keep people out, not get them in. The true value of an IIT or IIM is not the intellectual capital they produce, but their filtering expertise – which keeps all but the superlisters out of these institutions. When the people entering the institution are the best among the best, they will shine no matter what the quality of faculty or the curriculum. Perhaps this comes from our caste system, where castes try and keep others out, but we are stuck with this system of exclusion.

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>>>Then what about SATs? That was also designed to weed out some groups.

Rishi wrote:>>>This Jagannathan guy has to do some investigation and find out how Nadella got into Manipal institute of Technology. During my time, admission to Manipal Institutes require you pay a capitation fee. Even in 1970s, only rich kids could afford to do Medicine in Manipal.

If this Nadella fellow used influence of his IAS dad or paid hefty donation to get into Manipal Institute of Technology then the author has no business of bashing the Indian system.

If IIT JEE is similar to caste system then why are there so many Reddys and Kammas there at IITs? How come Brahmin like myself could not get in?  The IIT JEE system is much more equitable than the donation college Manipal Institute of Technology.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Rishi wrote:>>>This Jagannathan guy has to do some investigation and find out how Nadella got into Manipal institute of Technology. During my time, admission to Manipal Institutes require you pay a capitation fee. Even in 1970s, only rich kids could afford to do Medicine in Manipal.

If this Nadella fellow used influence of his IAS dad or paid hefty donation to get into Manipal Institute of Technology then the author has no business of bashing the Indian system.

If IIT JEE is similar to caste system then why are there so many Reddys and Kammas there at IITs? How come Brahmin like myself could not get in?  The IIT JEE system is much more equitable than the donation college Manipal Institute of Technology.

Manipal is the first institution (one of the very first) to be founded as a Donation College. Of course, they ploughed much of the donation into the educational system and brought it on par with good institutions and recognition. I am sure Satya's dad (an IAS officer), decided to pay for him to go to Manipal (was around Rs 50 to 70K in the 80s). He probably did not want Satya to go to that junk JNTU or Osmania Universities.

Reddys and Kammas are flooding the IITs only form the 90s - thanks for their discovery of cracking the JEE trick.   Besides, there are very few who dont go to IIT coaching classes during the last 20 years.  These are more like Kumon-like people trained by repetition and perfected into exam machines. I should say other colleges do the same, but the students - not being in the IITian mold - learn more about life  away from the books.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Rishi wrote:>>>This Jagannathan guy has to do some investigation and find out how Nadella got into Manipal institute of Technology. During my time, admission to Manipal Institutes require you pay a capitation fee. Even in 1970s, only rich kids could afford to do Medicine in Manipal.

If this Nadella fellow used influence of his IAS dad or paid hefty donation to get into Manipal Institute of Technology then the author has no business of bashing the Indian system.

If IIT JEE is similar to caste system then why are there so many Reddys and Kammas there at IITs? How come Brahmin like myself could not get in?  The IIT JEE system is much more equitable than the donation college Manipal Institute of Technology.

Manipal is the first institution (one of the very first) to be founded as a Donation College. Of course, they ploughed much of the donation into the educational system and brought it on par with good institutions and recognition. I am sure Satya's dad (an IAS officer), decided to pay for him to go to Manipal (was around Rs 50 to 70K in the 80s). He probably did not want Satya to go to that junk JNTU or Osmania Universities.

Reddys and Kammas are flooding the IITs only form the 90s - thanks for their discovery of cracking the JEE trick.   Besides, there are very few who dont go to IIT coaching classes during the last 20 years.  These are more like Kumon-like people trained by repetition and perfected into exam machines. I should say other colleges do the same, but the students - not being in the IITian mold - learn more about life  away from the books.

Hellsangel wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Rishi wrote:>>>This Jagannathan guy has to do some investigation and find out how Nadella got into Manipal institute of Technology. During my time, admission to Manipal Institutes require you pay a capitation fee. Even in 1970s, only rich kids could afford to do Medicine in Manipal.

If this Nadella fellow used influence of his IAS dad or paid hefty donation to get into Manipal Institute of Technology then the author has no business of bashing the Indian system.

If IIT JEE is similar to caste system then why are there so many Reddys and Kammas there at IITs? How come Brahmin like myself could not get in?  The IIT JEE system is much more equitable than the donation college Manipal Institute of Technology.

Manipal is the first institution (one of the very first) to be founded as a Donation College. Of course, they ploughed much of the donation into the educational system and brought it on par with good institutions and recognition. I am sure Satya's dad (an IAS officer), decided to pay for him to go to Manipal (was around Rs 50 to 70K in the 80s). He probably did not want Satya to go to that junk JNTU or Osmania Universities.

Reddys and Kammas are flooding the IITs only form the 90s - thanks for their discovery of cracking the JEE trick.   Besides, there are very few who dont go to IIT coaching classes during the last 20 years.  These are more like Kumon-like people trained by repetition and perfected into exam machines. I should say other colleges do the same, but the students - not being in the IITian mold - learn more about life  away from the books.

You Holiness and Papi, you guys are obsessed with the IITs.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:


" He probably did not want Satya to go to that junk JNTU or Osmania Universities. "

Uppili saar vadu,

Please provide us the facts behind your invaluable opinion ? 

truthbetold wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:


" He probably did not want Satya to go to that junk JNTU or Osmania Universities. "

Uppili saar vadu,

Please provide us the facts behind your invaluable opinion ? 

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Besides I am not against IIT or the IVY league per se. but, the indirect indignation shown towards at all things non-IIT.  But, Indians are like that wonly... relying on the past glory when there is nothing to show at present.