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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:44 am

From a Facebook post by Sofiya Rangwala, dermatologist based in Bangalore.

"Amidst a fake atmosphere of Intolerance being created in India, in the last 1 month, I owe my version of what I, a Muslim lady, living and working in India feel like. This has been due from me since sometime. Now, I feel the water has gone above the head and I too need to share my views. So, here it is. I am a Muslim lady, a practicing dermatologist by profession and I run my own high- end laser skin clinic, in Bangalore. I was brought up in Kuwait and at the age of 18, came to India to pursue medical education. I decided to stay back in India while almost all my friends left India for greener pastures. Not even once did I consider that being a Muslim could create a problem for me, as my sense of nationalism held me back to my roots and so here I am, serving my country since the last 20 years.

I studied in Manipal, Karnataka. I lived alone like all students do. While I was in college, all my professors were Hindus and almost all the people who I would interact with were Hindus as well. There is not a single incident when anyone showed partiality towards me based on my gender or religion. Every single one of them was kind and in fact sometimes, I felt as though they made an extra effort to make feel like I was one of them. I am ever so grateful to all of them for making my life in Manipal as comfortable as it could get. After leaving Manipal, I relocated to Bangalore with my husband. By then I had been married and so we decided to make our life in Bangalore. There is a reason, why we chose Bangalore and here is where I will talk about my husband. He is a Muslim too, with a very typical first name, Iqbal. He is an aerospace engineer with MTech from IIT-Chennai and PhD from Germany. His profession takes him to the most highly secured organizations of India, like DRDO, NAL, HAL, GTRE, ISRO, IISc, BHEL; you name it and be assured that he has visited all of them without any hassles. Not even once he has been stripped off or asked for special security clearance or any such bias has been shown towards him. And NO, things have not changed even after Modi gov came into power. Things are in fact more disciplined and streamlined even at government organizations, from what I hear from my husband. As a matter of fact, Iqbal has been completely stripped each time he traveled to US and was under secret surveillance while he was doing his PhD in Germany, after the 9/11 attacks on US. We literally received a letter from the German government that he has been cleared and is not anymore under suspicion. Talk about Muslim paranoia!

Its very understandable too due to the current situations in the world. My husband is highly respected and loved by the people he works with, and all of them happen to be Hindus. None of this has changed even in recent times, so Intolerance is just a word for us on a practical basis. I opened my clinic last year, just before Modi gov came into power. I am a law-abiding citizen and I file my taxes like service tax on a monthly basis. I have never indulged in any activities, which could put me into any kind of trouble. I am comfortably running my clinic, which is doing very well, thanks to all my patients and clients, who all happen to be Hindus. A handful of my patients are from other communities. My entire staff is Hindu, and believe me when I say that they take better care of my clinic than I could any day! I interact with bankers, government officers and with so many people on a daily basis. Not even once in the last 20 years, did I have the need to even think of leaving India! My entire family lives abroad and all that I need to do is just decide that I don’t want to stay here. I have open offers of opening clinic in Kuwait, which would fetch me huge amount of revenue and yet why should I stay in India, if I am not happy and if I am facing any kind of bias?

In Kuwait, we are considered as NOBODY. Yes, despite being in Kuwait for the last 40 years or so, my family is still considered as expatriates, with no rights. We need to renew our resident permit periodically and the laws there constantly keep changing, making the life of expatriates only harder. We have to strictly comply with their rules and laws, which is fine but we are openly discriminated. They consider Asians as third grade people, while giving preference to their citizens, Arabs and Whites. We are not unhappy there but we have no sense of belonging either. At least, I never had and never have even when I visit Kuwait now. We are Muslims in a Muslim country, and yet we are considered as Indians with no special regards. I figured long back ago, that India is the only country, where I will have a sense of belonging. You are an Indian-American in US, Indian-Canadian in Canada, Indian-British in UK and so on but only in India you are an Indian. Period. Rest can say whatever they want and defend their choices but this is a fact. You can only feel at home, in your own home. I have lived in different places and everywhere I stand out but in India. No body in India asks me, ‘Are you an Indian?’, and this is what makes all the difference. So, what are these celebrities ranting about? An ordinary citizen like my husband and I are not facing any such issues, then what have they faced? Why is Amir Khan’s wife, Kiran Rao feeling so afraid? They are prominent people, living in posh localities, their children study in the best of schools and they have personal security escorting them at all times. I travel alone everyday and yet don’t feel afraid. I want to know as a responsible citizen, from Amir Khan and Shahrukh Khan as well, why did they make such irresponsible statements and spoil the image of the 13 crores of Muslims in India? Who the hell are they to make public statements based on their personal perception? Who gave them the liberty to tarnish the image of my country on an International level, that Muslims are not safe in India? How dare Pakistan invites them to stay in Pakistan? I feel hurt when I read the statements of my Hindu friends on Muslims. I feel afraid that they are being pushed to the limit and the tolerance and acceptance that I have enjoyed all these years, might just vanish! I feel afraid that my own people might shun me and I may get alienated in my own country, because of a handful of ungrateful bunch of fools! How long can I expect majority of Hindus to tolerate this nuisance? It’s high time that Muslims understand the value of the freedom and acceptance that we enjoy in India and if not, I pray that my Hindu fellow citizens continue to keep their patience."

http://creative.sulekha.com/an-answer-to-amir-other-khans_626445_blog?c=2384872#2384872
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:25 pm

Rashmun will counter that she is an educated Muslim and her views don't represent those of Bihari mians who want to be BIMARU and UP bhaiyyas who want to pollute Ganga, take a dip in it and demand Modi's resignation for his "intolerant" Swacch Bharat campaign against their filthy "traditions".

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:43 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Rashmun will counter that she is an educated Muslim and her views don't represent those of Bihari mians who want to be BIMARU and UP bhaiyyas who want to pollute Ganga, take a dip in it and demand Modi's resignation for his "intolerant" Swacch Bharat campaign against their filthy "traditions".

Vakavaka continues to insult the same people who composed his beloved Upanisads.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:44 pm

Seva i have seen this blog. It seems to have been written by someone in the RSS/BJP propaganda department.

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Post by ashdoc Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:45 pm

This is what Shari'a Law is all about. Kill anyone and everyone who does not agree to Islam or who tries to abandon it. There is nothing called as human rights. Is this also a consequence of misinterpretation? If yes, then kindly, can any Muslim tell me who is following the true Islam if even Saudi Arabia, the custodian of Islam is wrongly misinterpreting the Quran?

some of the posts in this blog ( like the above quoted one )make one wonder if she is for real


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Post by ashdoc Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:49 pm

one more post of hers . is she really a muslim ?


If animals were meant for human consumptuon and are created by God for human pleasures, then why do animals cry in pain when they are subjected to slaughter? As per God's will, shouldn't the animal willingly give itself up? Have you ever seen any animal feeling happy while being cut up? Think, instead of following man made religious texts, ridden with fallacies. Animals are beautiful creations of the Creator, and have every right to live like humans. To consider them as lowly beings, created for our taste buds is the lowest level of thinking possible.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:11 pm

ashdoc wrote:one more post of hers . is she really a muslim ?


If animals were meant for human consumptuon and are created by God for human pleasures, then why do animals cry in pain when they are subjected to slaughter? As per God's will, shouldn't the animal willingly give itself up? Have you ever seen any animal feeling happy while being cut up? Think, instead of following man made religious texts, ridden with fallacies. Animals are beautiful creations of the Creator, and have every right to live like humans. To consider them as lowly beings, created for our taste buds is the lowest level of thinking possible.
Yeah, she is questioning one of the beliefs in Semitic faiths. So, she is either a Kafir or a Muslim who is questioning dogma. However, if you google, you will see info on her profession, etc., which are correct.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:00 pm

Rashmun wrote:Seva i have seen this blog. It seems to have been written by someone in the RSS/BJP propaganda department.
Do you mean to say that RSS/BJP have Muslim women members?
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:18 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Seva i have seen this blog. It seems to have been written by someone in the RSS/BJP propaganda department.
Do you mean to say that RSS/BJP have Muslim women members?

it could be a chaddi posing to be a muslim woman. It could be a muslim woman on the payroll of the chaddis. There could be other explanations.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:25 am

Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Seva i have seen this blog. It seems to have been written by someone in the RSS/BJP propaganda department.
Do you mean to say that RSS/BJP have Muslim women members?

it could be a chaddi posing to be a muslim woman. It could be a muslim woman on the payroll of the chaddis. There could be other explanations.
So you think anyone who is not "complaining" about intolerance, which some movie stars seem to be doing (complaining) while earning for their so-so movies hundreds of crores in rupees from Hindu audiences, is not a real Muslim woman or she is a Muslim woman but on the payroll of chaddis?
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:35 am

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Seva i have seen this blog. It seems to have been written by someone in the RSS/BJP propaganda department.
Do you mean to say that RSS/BJP have Muslim women members?

it could be a chaddi posing to be a muslim woman. It could be a muslim woman on the payroll of the chaddis. There could be other explanations.
So you think anyone who is not "complaining" about intolerance, which some movie stars seem to be doing (complaining) while earning for their so-so movies hundreds of crores in rupees from Hindu audiences, is not a real Muslim woman or she is a Muslim woman but on the payroll of chaddis?

read the posts of ashdoc in this thread. there is something fishy about this person as ashdoc has shown.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:45 am

i do believe sofiya rangwala is a muslim lady as she claims.  however, i also believe she has very low expectations of her countrymen's behavior towards her. she says:

His profession takes him to the most highly secured organizations of India, like DRDO, NAL, HAL, GTRE, ISRO, IISc, BHEL; you name it and be assured that he has visited all of them without any hassles. Not even once he has been stripped off or asked for special security clearance or any such bias has been shown towards him. And NO, things have not changed even after Modi gov came into power. Things are in fact more disciplined and streamlined even at government organizations, from what I hear from my husband. As a matter of fact, Iqbal has been completely stripped each time he traveled to US and was under secret surveillance while he was doing his PhD in Germany, after the 9/11 attacks on US. We literally received a letter from the German government that he has been cleared and is not anymore under suspicion. Talk about Muslim paranoia!

if strip searching citizen visitors is not the norm, why is her husband being treated normally, comment worthy? the US labs and government agencies do what they do to all visitors.  this has been my experience. my native born colleagues in the US are treated the same way i am treated whenever we enter a government facility. her entire article reads like someone who is insecure and wants to make nice with the saffron rabble rousers as an insurance policy.
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