More dravidian than Bharatnatyam?

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:30 am

Thamizhars (and wannabe-Thamizhars), I was given to understand by a 100% authentic Iyer I met while waiting for a table at Cafe Madras in Matunga that this is a more authentic depiction of Dravidian dances forms than the chaste, Brahminical (aka ingratiating with NI) performances by Parimala Murugadosai. Do you agree? If yes, why? If not, why not?

PS: A translation of the lyrics would be very helpful to non-Thamizhar students of authentic Dravidian culture. Thanks.

by Guest Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:36 am

total ulat phulatam. i like this utthapam. bounce

yum yum this is the real authentic stuff, merlot bhai.

by Idéfix Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:38 am

What is the garment the guy is wearing on his torso? Looks like a cross between a bra and an angavastram.

by Guest Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:42 am

Oh, TCH mama visiting Mumbai?

Yaay! Understood 4 words of tamil - onnu, randu, moonu, naalu.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:44 am

panini press wrote:What is the garment the guy is wearing on his torso? Looks like a cross between a bra and an angavastram.

That could be the kanchukam worn on the torso, as described by Adiarkku Nallar in his commentary on the Silappadikaram. I'll defer to Max on this though.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:45 am

blabberwock wrote:Oh, TCH mama visiting Mumbai?

by Idéfix Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:48 am

blabberwock wrote:Oh, TCH mama visiting Mumbai?

That explains it. He copied all the items in his exceptional menu from Cafe Madras in Matunga. No wonder he received a Certificate of Authenticity.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:54 am

Hey c'mon. Don't slander the goodly Kamath maam who runs Cafe Madras. Other than that very interesting ragi-masala dosa (which is a perfectly organic innovation in Karnataka where ragi is the common man's cereal), he serves extremely authentic Udupi fare. No paneer masala dosas here. Thank you.

by Guest Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:57 am

Thighsum thunderum downum underum
Sizeum matterum thinkum wonderum

Shocked

....and that blasted "dil"!

Love lust double kasht bada dheetnum
Body heatnum hot seatnum
Calling fire brigade bhi defeatnum
Same to sameum dil me utarum
Top to baseum kama sutram

by Idéfix Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:04 am

Synthesis and integration is what this is. We have just glimpsed the post-synthesis integrated future.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:06 am

Oh that's ok. I guess even authentic Thamizh song-writers are seeking synthesis these days. As we all know, more Thamizhars speak Hindi these days than UPites speak Thamizh. So it's natural for some dil to get injected in the proceedings.

by Guest Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:07 am

ha ha @ dil. but but,

Sizeum matterum thinkum wonderum

^ this i think is in highly esoteric ulat phulat register. the answer is not the obvious: tamilians. the answer lies in gultis do ultis as nats would attest. *they* score in that department.

by Guest Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:14 am

from wiki:

The story is about a Marathi girl Meenakshi Deshpande (Rani Mukerji) falling in love with a Tamil artist Surya (Prithviraj). It is a quirky and funny love story with the backdrop of a Marathi-Tamil cultural clash.[1] The lead female protagonist woos the stranger she desires as he smells good.[3]

any curry leaves talcum powder in the marketam?

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:30 am

Hoozay, this is a Maharashtrian mulgi. The smell of crisp large denomination bank notes is what will turn her on. Not curry leaves or sambar powder.

by Guest Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:13 am

blabberwock wrote:Thighsum thunderum downum underum
Sizeum matterum thinkum wonderum

....and that blasted "dil"!

Love lust double kasht bada dheetnum
Body heatnum hot seatnum
Calling fire brigade bhi defeatnum
Same to sameum dil me utarum
Top to baseum kama sutram

besides 'dil', the words 'kasht', 'bada', and 'dheet' are all commonly used hindi words.

by Guest Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:44 am

Rashmun wrote:
blabberwock wrote:Thighsum thunderum downum underum
Sizeum matterum thinkum wonderum

....and that blasted "dil"!

Love lust double kasht bada dheetnum
Body heatnum hot seatnum
Calling fire brigade bhi defeatnum
Same to sameum dil me utarum
Top to baseum kama sutram

besides 'dil', the words 'kasht', 'bada', and 'dheet' are all commonly used hindi words.

Add to the above the word 'utar' (a better phonetic spelling would be 'utaar') and also the word 'bhi'.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:56 am

Aiyyo. The extent of synthesis and integration sought by authentic Thamizh song-writers is far higher than what anyone had hitherto suspected.

by Impedimenta Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:52 am

LOL! ha ha ha @ heartbeatunam.

fine. that does it! you pushed me over to the dark side. from now on, i embrace everything hindian.

OMG @ rani. wait, he is supposed to be the SI masala here? phewww....

btw, you are all collectively ignorant if you think that an authentic BN performance is brahminical. just saying:-)

by Guest Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:59 am

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
blabberwock wrote:Thighsum thunderum downum underum
Sizeum matterum thinkum wonderum

....and that blasted "dil"!

Love lust double kasht bada dheetnum
Body heatnum hot seatnum
Calling fire brigade bhi defeatnum
Same to sameum dil me utarum
Top to baseum kama sutram

besides 'dil', the words 'kasht', 'bada', and 'dheet' are all commonly used hindi words.

Add to the above the word 'utar' (a better phonetic spelling would be 'utaar') and also the word 'bhi'.

another hindi word being used is 'me' whose phonetic spelling should probably be 'mein' ('dil me utarum').

by garam_kuta Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:20 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
panini press wrote:What is the garment the guy is wearing on his torso? Looks like a cross between a bra and an angavastram.

That could be the kanchukam worn on the torso, as described by Adiarkku Nallar in his commentary on the Silappadikaram. I'll defer to Max on this though.

susthu mAdubittae mAriah - with the double 'k' in adiyarkku- anyways, you in cafe Madras!!! its like the proverbial virgin in Paris or a Raasta bro in Tiruppathi maan !

yeah looks like garment was imported from Manchester UK for our athletic aunties and on this guy it looks more like the attempts of Dolly Parton and suchlike try wearing it !

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