Re: This is Bharat

by Captain Bhankas Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:50 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:Is he tall? I will look him up.

not before you eat though. come to think of it, not after you eat either.

by pravalika nanda Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:55 pm

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:if you are OK then everything is OK. please not to worry about PC crowd. ya look him up. i think 6 feet plus. oops that's amitabh bacchan disease. ok 5'11"?

5'11'' sounds perfect and what a handsome man but Ramdev is anti-sex education and anti-gay.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:55 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
Captain Bhankas wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:bharat is the name of a boy or a mythological character from the rAmAyaNam. if you are referring to the country in the article, it is india.

jana gana mana adhi naayak jaya hai
bhaarat bhagya vidhata

there is nothing wrong in calling this country bhaarat.

** Yes, nothing wrong with that but after reading the posts by Max and Idefix I wonder if it is politically correct to call India "Bharat." I suspect that anyone who goes about referring to "India" as "Bharat" will be looked down upon by the liberals and various minorities as over-zealous nationalists or worse, hindu zealots.

what is wrong with being a hindu nationalist? BTW, who cares for what "they" call? after all, the Liberals and the various minorities are also called MAPGs (Minority Apologist Group).

The majority should ensure the minority rights are not trampled but are not required to let the minorities trample the majority rights. If minorities have feelings and feel hurt, so do the majority.

In a democracy the Majority rules. Those who dont believe in it can move to China or Allahland.

by pravalika nanda Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:13 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:
Captain Bhankas wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:bharat is the name of a boy or a mythological character from the rAmAyaNam. if you are referring to the country in the article, it is india.

jana gana mana adhi naayak jaya hai
bhaarat bhagya vidhata

there is nothing wrong in calling this country bhaarat.

** Yes, nothing wrong with that but after reading the posts by Max and Idefix I wonder if it is politically correct to call India "Bharat." I suspect that anyone who goes about referring to "India" as "Bharat" will be looked down upon by the liberals and various minorities as over-zealous nationalists or worse, hindu zealots.

what is wrong with being a hindu nationalist? BTW, who cares for what "they" call? after all, the Liberals and the various minorities are also called MAPGs (Minority Apologist Group).

The majority should ensure the minority rights are not trampled but are not required to let the minorities trample the majority rights. If minorities have feelings and feel hurt, so do the majority.

In a democracy the Majority rules. Those who dont believe in it can move to China or Allahland.

** I agree with your third line but it is very rare of you to acknowledge such a thing. Hindu nationalism, I believe, calls for Hindu domination which is not the fair thing to pursue in a democracy. At any rate, I wouldn't want to be a part of such a monolithic community. And the purpose of democracy is the opposite of what you've stated, it's that all people (irrespective of their size in numbers) have the same rights and opportunities.

** I'm wary of liberals cuz most of them imagine they have the moral high ground whereas people on the right are almost always just plain wrong. I try to be in the center but I probably fall a degree right of it.

by Guest Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:19 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:
** I'm wary of liberals cuz most of them imagine they have the moral high ground whereas people on the right are almost always just plain wrong. I try to be in the center but I probably fall a degree right of it.

make that 90 degrees. good brahmin gult boys like carvaka should not drink.

by Idéfix Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:49 pm

pravalika nanda wrote:And the purpose of democracy is the opposite of what you've stated, it's that all people (irrespective of their size in numbers) have the same rights and opportunities.

Liberals are the people who most often stand up for this principle.

by Idéfix Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:51 pm

pravalika nanda wrote: ** Yes, nothing wrong with that but after reading the posts by Max and Idefix I wonder if it is politically correct to call India "Bharat." I suspect that anyone who goes about referring to "India" as "Bharat" will be looked down upon by the liberals and various minorities as over-zealous nationalists or worse, hindu zealots.

I don't think of every person who uses the word Bharat instead of India as a Hindu zealot, or even an over-zealous nationalist. I use the word Bharat when speaking / writing in Telugu about the country. I use India when referring to the country in English.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:37 pm

Idéfix wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:And the purpose of democracy is the opposite of what you've stated, it's that all people (irrespective of their size in numbers) have the same rights and opportunities.

Liberals are the people who most often stand up for this principle.

By your statement, you just proved PN is right about Liberals. Are you learning from your friend Maulana Rashmunullah?

EVERYONE is principled and stands up to it. Even the staunch "Godless Socialists" like Stalin and Pol Pot... Razz

by Idéfix Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:41 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
pravalika nanda wrote:And the purpose of democracy is the opposite of what you've stated, it's that all people (irrespective of their size in numbers) have the same rights and opportunities.

Liberals are the people who most often stand up for this principle.

By your statement, you just proved PN is right about Liberals. Are you learning from your friend Maulana Rashmunullah?

EVERYONE is principled and stands up to it. Even the staunch "Godless Socialists" like Stalin and Pol Pot...

I don't think everyone is principled, but there are principled people in every political camp. But I was referring to one specific principle that PN claims as the purpose of democracy. It is usually liberals who stand up for that specific principle.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:51 pm

Idéfix wrote:
I don't think everyone is principled, but there are principled people in every political camp. But I was referring to one specific principle that PN claims as the purpose of democracy. It is usually liberals who stand up for that specific principle.

Any particular principle ????

Then in that case, the republicans can claim to be more principled - bcz they stand up against abortion, taxes, immigration, phoreners, poor, etc... it is just that the liberals dont consider THESE as "pricipled stands"

by Propagandhi711 Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:10 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
I don't think everyone is principled, but there are principled people in every political camp. But I was referring to one specific principle that PN claims as the purpose of democracy. It is usually liberals who stand up for that specific principle.

Any particular principle ????

Then in that case, the republicans can claim to be more principled - bcz they stand up against abortion, taxes, immigration, phoreners, poor, etc... it is just that the liberals dont consider THESE as "pricipled stands"

must we be reminded of your tendency to not read before stating your opinion, daily?

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:32 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
I don't think everyone is principled, but there are principled people in every political camp. But I was referring to one specific principle that PN claims as the purpose of democracy. It is usually liberals who stand up for that specific principle.

Any particular principle ????

Then in that case, the republicans can claim to be more principled - bcz they stand up against abortion, taxes, immigration, phoreners, poor, etc... it is just that the liberals dont consider THESE as "pricipled stands"

must we be reminded of your tendency to not read before stating your opinion, daily?

Oh yeah..."one specific Principle"....

But, done be such an unprincipled fella to criticize someone with dyslexic disability. In recent days I am convinced bcz my mind and eyes race with each other skipping words or misreading it. I only wish that I had discovered this ability - err...disability...sooner and used it to my advantage.

by Idéfix Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:36 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
I don't think everyone is principled, but there are principled people in every political camp. But I was referring to one specific principle that PN claims as the purpose of democracy. It is usually liberals who stand up for that specific principle.

Any particular principle ????

Then in that case, the republicans can claim to be more principled - bcz they stand up against abortion, taxes, immigration, phoreners, poor, etc... it is just that the liberals dont consider THESE as "pricipled stands"

Slow down, and read again before you type.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Idéfix wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
I don't think everyone is principled, but there are principled people in every political camp. But I was referring to one specific principle that PN claims as the purpose of democracy. It is usually liberals who stand up for that specific principle.

Any particular principle ????

Then in that case, the republicans can claim to be more principled - bcz they stand up against abortion, taxes, immigration, phoreners, poor, etc... it is just that the liberals dont consider THESE as "pricipled stands"
Slow down, and read again before you type.

I was just told by my boss that I am an hyperactive workaholic, and looks like it is only getting worse with age....every 5 minutes of my life is filled up and always had to do 2 and 3 things at the same time - including scanning and responding to SuCH posts. It is almost at the breaking point now, and I might even start whining with VB in a joint collaboration.

by truthbetold Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:07 pm

Liberals also have a problem with saying no to entitlements. Many of the social assistance programs were started in difficult times with the idea of overcoming an extraordinary difficulty. Each of these short term programs become entitlements and votebanks. In the long term the accumulated financial burden bankrupts the economy and nation.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:15 pm

truthbetold wrote:Liberals also have a problem with saying no to entitlements. Many of the social assistance programs were started in difficult times with the idea of overcoming an extraordinary difficulty. Each of these short term programs become entitlements and votebanks. In the long term the accumulated financial burden bankrupts the economy and nation.

They also have the principle of finding fault with hindus on anything they say and any politician who says the word HINDU a communal.

by Idéfix Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:28 pm

Neither social security nor Medicare was started as a temporary program. Both programs are highly efficient and effective. Most Americans want the programs to continue. Liberals took the lead in creating them, and they now need to take the lead in saving them for the future. That means negotiating higher retirement age and lower benfits. This is hard for liberals but there is no easy way out.

by truthbetold Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:29 pm

Idéfix wrote:Neither social security nor Medicare was started as a temporary program. Both programs are highly efficient and effective. Most Americans want the programs to continue. Liberals took the lead in creating them, and they now need to take the lead in saving them for the future. That means negotiating higher retirement age and lower benfits. This is hard for liberals but there is no easy way out.

idefix,
medic aid and Medicare mandates are unfunded. Counties have to find dollars themselves. Thisq results. In higher real estate taxes.
Welfare, rent assistance, etc. They all start but never go away. Budgets are stretched.
Look at India. Petroleum subsidies and so called food safety law will bankrupt the nation.

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