Chinese Americans in New York City, it turns out, earn less than other groups lacking the Triple Package. The median household income of Chinese in the city ($42,766) is lower than that of Ecuadoreans ($46,126), Haitians ($48,175) and Pakistanis ($50,912). The New York City group with the highest percentage of high school graduates isn't Chinese or Indians; it's Ukrainians (94.4%). But rarely are we treated to encomiums about the cultural superiority of the Borscht Mom.

It's not conformity that makes this country great; it's an individual striking out against the expectations of his culture, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg dropping out of Harvard, Miles Davis coming out of heroin addiction to produce 'Round About Midnight, the 14-year-old Billie Holiday turning the pain of her childhood into the bluest beauty, Sylvia Plath taking on death with pills and poetry, William S. Burroughs writing from the bowels of his addiction in Naked Lunch; it's Hemingway and Fitzgerald and Cheever and Carver drinking and writing, writing and drinking through their demons. Imagine what American culture would be if American artists had kept a tight check on their impulses.

Petrichor wrote:1. Ukrainians - smaller base 80K population (and a specious use of stat, if I ever saw one)
2. My fb comment on the book which I haven't read (based off of the Times shill):

"I think this is a fairly accurate identification of factors although I do not agree that 'groups' have anything to do with it. I think these factors are common to all those 'risers' and not just these groups."
3. Chua and Rubenfeld are far too clever to directly attribute it to culture - the triple package is just a set of factors they found at higher than normal prevalence in those Asian groups. No one can pick holes in that argument.

Petrichor wrote:1. Ukrainians - smaller base 80K population (and a specious use of stat, if I ever saw one)
2. My fb comment on the book which I haven't read (based off of the Times shill):

"I think this is a fairly accurate identification of factors although I do not agree that 'groups' have anything to do with it. I think these factors are common to all those 'risers' and not just these groups."
3. Chua and Rubenfeld are far too clever to directly attribute it to culture - the triple package is just a set of factors they found at higher than normal prevalence in those Asian groups. No one can pick holes in that argument.

A large number those emigrating from Ukraine after the fall of the Soviet Union were Jewish and Protestant.

Petrichor wrote:"Impulse Control" in this context and the way they have used it is related to self-satiation/aggrandizement - this is a well-accepted "deferring-rewards-in-infancy" theory. Risk taking is impulsive but in an outward-focused sense.

When Zuckerberg refuses VC money if it involves dilution when he was barely out of college, that is risk taking. When Wolf-of-Wall-St. DiCaprio snorts heroin off of a stripper's unmentionable, that is lack of impulse control.