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Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/greg-chappell-sachin-tendulkar-rahul-dravid-autobiography-playing-it-my-way/2014-11-04
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
Tendulkar only had negative things to say about Greg Chappel as the Coach so how do you expect him to respond?
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
goodcitizn wrote:Tendulkar only had negative things to say about Greg Chappel as the Coach so how do you expect him to respond?
I am not criticizing Greg. In fact I admire him.
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
chappel hasn't said something as dramatic as ' tendulkar is a liar '' . he merely has refuted tendulkar's claims---something that he naturally was expected to do , considering sachin said only negative things about him .Rashmun wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Tendulkar only had negative things to say about Greg Chappel as the Coach so how do you expect him to respond?
I am not criticizing Greg. In fact I admire him.
don't put words in chappel's mouth , and above above all don't put YOUR words into his mouth .
the title of the thread should be---Rashmun says ' tendulkar is a liar ' .
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
ashdoc wrote:chappel hasn't said something as dramatic as ' tendulkar is a liar '' . he merely has refuted tendulkar's claims---something that he naturally was expected to do , considering sachin said only negative things about him .Rashmun wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Tendulkar only had negative things to say about Greg Chappel as the Coach so how do you expect him to respond?
I am not criticizing Greg. In fact I admire him.
don't put words in chappel's mouth , and above above all don't put YOUR words into his mouth .
the title of the thread should be---Rashmun says ' tendulkar is a liar ' .
By refuting tendulkar's claims he is declaring tendulkar to be a liar.
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The unusual sense of entitlement felt by senior members of an Indian cricket team is something not readily understood in our own culture. It is especially difficult to comprehend when players the calibre of the Waugh brothers can be dropped overnight - Dean Jones removed from the test team in 1992 for an unproven Damien Martyn - and going back a long way, Grimmett left out of the 1938 touring team to England - there are, in fact, countless examples of Australian players dropped in their prime. Remember Michael Bevan? What did Tendulkar and the other senior players think the BCCI was doing to bring in an Australian coach into their fold? To smooth over the senior players' egos in a nation which literally worships them?
I have personally never understood the respect accorded Sachin Tendulkar as a batsman of the highest class. Judges better placed then myself (including Stephen Waugh rate) him as a "modern day Bradman" and so the likelihood is that I am wrong, however I do not recall a single innings in Tendulkar's career where he single-handedly rescued a test out of the sheer class or determination of his batting. For that reason I wouldn't place him higher than Lara, Richards, Miandad, S Waugh and many others who came before him. Who really cares if Greg Chappell wanted to play Laxman as an opener? We would be criticising Chappell for not having vision and guts if he took over a team of ageing champions and did nothing to prepare successors.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/greg-chappell-quashes-sachin-tendulkars-story-20141104-11gfs0.html
I have personally never understood the respect accorded Sachin Tendulkar as a batsman of the highest class. Judges better placed then myself (including Stephen Waugh rate) him as a "modern day Bradman" and so the likelihood is that I am wrong, however I do not recall a single innings in Tendulkar's career where he single-handedly rescued a test out of the sheer class or determination of his batting. For that reason I wouldn't place him higher than Lara, Richards, Miandad, S Waugh and many others who came before him. Who really cares if Greg Chappell wanted to play Laxman as an opener? We would be criticising Chappell for not having vision and guts if he took over a team of ageing champions and did nothing to prepare successors.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/greg-chappell-quashes-sachin-tendulkars-story-20141104-11gfs0.html
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Rashmun wrote:The unusual sense of entitlement felt by senior members of an Indian cricket team is something not readily understood in our own culture. It is especially difficult to comprehend when players the calibre of the Waugh brothers can be dropped overnight - Dean Jones removed from the test team in 1992 for an unproven Damien Martyn - and going back a long way, Grimmett left out of the 1938 touring team to England - there are, in fact, countless examples of Australian players dropped in their prime. Remember Michael Bevan? What did Tendulkar and the other senior players think the BCCI was doing to bring in an Australian coach into their fold? To smooth over the senior players' egos in a nation which literally worships them?
I have personally never understood the respect accorded Sachin Tendulkar as a batsman of the highest class. Judges better placed then myself (including Stephen Waugh rate) him as a "modern day Bradman" and so the likelihood is that I am wrong, however I do not recall a single innings in Tendulkar's career where he single-handedly rescued a test out of the sheer class or determination of his batting. For that reason I wouldn't place him higher than Lara, Richards, Miandad, S Waugh and many others who came before him. Who really cares if Greg Chappell wanted to play Laxman as an opener? We would be criticising Chappell for not having vision and guts if he took over a team of ageing champions and did nothing to prepare successors.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/greg-chappell-quashes-sachin-tendulkars-story-20141104-11gfs0.html
Yes. He was a great run accumulator but not a clutch player like Laxman. And in ODIs, he has amazing numbers but Kohli is probably a better bet when it comes to chasing down tough targets with wickets down. In the 2011 wc final Tendulkar folded like a cheap tent as expected and it was Kohli and Gambhir who batted coolly to bail the team out. Can you ever expect clutch batting from Tendulkar in his first ever world cup final?
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
hello, cricket is a team game last I checked.
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
truthbetold wrote:hello, cricket is a team game last I checked.
still there are memorable match-winning (or often in gavaskar and dravid's case, match-saving) individual performances that we all remember - the kolkata 281 of laxman, dravid's 2003 adelaide knocks, 233 n the first and and 72 in the second innings, kumble's 10-fer in the delhi test against pak and so on. there aren't too many like that in tendulkar's list except the huge number of runs. ODIs are a different story.
here's the thing -- the actual difference between dravid and tendulkar in tests wasn't that big, but in the public narrative and in the minds of the public it is much bigger. in fact leaving aside runs accumulated, the sum total of dravid's contributions in terms of value added to the team is much larger. so much of the blowback that you get from dravid fans is because of that.
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i suppose lots of claims and counter claims are going to come out now about the last two decades of indian cricket, especially all the sordid stuff around the chappell affair. here is the key to the truth -- listen to what if anything rahul dravid says and ignore everything else. that is the truth.
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wonder why SRT didn't say all this when greg chappell was around. what's the point now!
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
bw wrote:wonder why SRT didn't say all this when greg chappell was around. what's the point now!
wussy iyer boy?
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
http://m.indiatoday.in/story/rahul-dravid-hits-back-at-sourav-ganguly-over-greg-chappell-row/1/399124.html
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
point is about selling the book , what else ??bw wrote:wonder why SRT didn't say all this when greg chappell was around. what's the point now!
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
in an age where people want to see runs accumulated at a fast rate , dravid was too slow a run getter . to be honest , this is an injustice to dravid .MaxEntropy_Man wrote:truthbetold wrote:hello, cricket is a team game last I checked.
still there are memorable match-winning (or often in gavaskar and dravid's case, match-saving) individual performances that we all remember - the kolkata 281 of laxman, dravid's 2003 adelaide knocks, 233 n the first and and 72 in the second innings, kumble's 10-fer in the delhi test against pak and so on. there aren't too many like that in tendulkar's list except the huge number of runs. ODIs are a different story.
here's the thing -- the actual difference between dravid and tendulkar in tests wasn't that big, but in the public narrative and in the minds of the public it is much bigger. in fact leaving aside runs accumulated, the sum total of dravid's contributions in terms of value added to the team is much larger. so much of the blowback that you get from dravid fans is because of that.
but fast run getting has a glamour that dravid did't have , and tendulkar had the ability to get his runs faster .
personality also counts , and dravid's personality was too reticent....
its like asking that some art movie actor was better than some commercial movie actor , then why didn't he get the accolades ??
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chappel is merely defending himself against the scathing attack tendulkar has launched on him . in fact chappel's defence is too meek and he has not used a big word like 'liar' .Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:chappel hasn't said something as dramatic as ' tendulkar is a liar '' . he merely has refuted tendulkar's claims---something that he naturally was expected to do , considering sachin said only negative things about him .Rashmun wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Tendulkar only had negative things to say about Greg Chappel as the Coach so how do you expect him to respond?
I am not criticizing Greg. In fact I admire him.
don't put words in chappel's mouth , and above above all don't put YOUR words into his mouth .
the title of the thread should be---Rashmun says ' tendulkar is a liar ' .
By refuting tendulkar's claims he is declaring tendulkar to be a liar.
your attempt to put words in chappel's mouth reeks of hate for tendulkar rather than anything else .
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Re: Greg Chappell: Sachin Tendulkar is a Liar
i guess this admiration is newfound---since you hate tendulkar , anybody who is attacked by tendulkar is admired by you .Rashmun wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Tendulkar only had negative things to say about Greg Chappel as the Coach so how do you expect him to respond?
I am not criticizing Greg. In fact I admire him.
in fact chappels is infamous for the most infamous incident in cricket---the underarm delivery that he ( as captain ) asked the aussie bowler to bowl in a match against new zealand .
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ashdoc wrote:chappel is merely defending himself against the scathing attack tendulkar has launched on him . in fact chappel's defence is too meek and he has not used a big word like 'liar' .Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:chappel hasn't said something as dramatic as ' tendulkar is a liar '' . he merely has refuted tendulkar's claims---something that he naturally was expected to do , considering sachin said only negative things about him .Rashmun wrote:goodcitizn wrote:Tendulkar only had negative things to say about Greg Chappel as the Coach so how do you expect him to respond?
I am not criticizing Greg. In fact I admire him.
don't put words in chappel's mouth , and above above all don't put YOUR words into his mouth .
the title of the thread should be---Rashmun says ' tendulkar is a liar ' .
By refuting tendulkar's claims he is declaring tendulkar to be a liar.
your attempt to put words in chappel's mouth reeks of hate for tendulkar rather than anything else .
chappell says he went to tendulkar's house (where tendulkar says this conversation took place) only once, with two other people (the physio and someone else), and this was one year before tendulkar claims the conversation took place and he completely denies tendulkar's accusation that he offered to make him captain. chappell is certainly calling tendulkar a Liar--though in a polite way.
Also, Ganguly claims Dravid told him that he is unable to handle Chappell while Dravid completely denies saying this to Ganguly. In a polite way Dravid is calling Ganguly a liar.
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bradman himself said that tendulkar reminded him of himself .Rashmun wrote:
Judges better placed then myself (including Stephen Waugh rate) him as a "modern day Bradman"
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ashdoc wrote:bradman himself said that tendulkar reminded him of himself .Rashmun wrote:
Judges better placed then myself (including Stephen Waugh rate) him as a "modern day Bradman"
during tendulkar's younger days everyone respected him. as he grew older, and selfish, most people stopped respecting him.
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denying an accusation made against himself was only to be expected . it would be very surprising if chappel DID NOT make this statement .Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:chappel is merely defending himself against the scathing attack tendulkar has launched on him . in fact chappel's defence is too meek and he has not used a big word like 'liar' .Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:chappel hasn't said something as dramatic as ' tendulkar is a liar '' . he merely has refuted tendulkar's claims---something that he naturally was expected to do , considering sachin said only negative things about him .Rashmun wrote:
I am not criticizing Greg. In fact I admire him.
don't put words in chappel's mouth , and above above all don't put YOUR words into his mouth .
the title of the thread should be---Rashmun says ' tendulkar is a liar ' .
By refuting tendulkar's claims he is declaring tendulkar to be a liar.
your attempt to put words in chappel's mouth reeks of hate for tendulkar rather than anything else .
chappell says he went to tendulkar's house (where tendulkar says this conversation took place) only once, with two other people (the physio and someone else), and this was one year before tendulkar claims the conversation took place and he completely denies tendulkar's accusation that he offered to make him captain. chappell is certainly calling tendulkar a Liar--though in a polite way.
Also, Ganguly claims Dravid told him that he is unable to handle Chappell while Dravid completely denies saying this to Ganguly. In a polite way Dravid is calling Ganguly a liar.
secondly , you should have started this thread by titling it with tendulkar's accusations , isn't it ?? thats what started the whole controversy isn't it ?? instead you are focusing on chappel's all-too-expected refutal of the accusations . proof of your hate...
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