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Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
......It just banned monomaniacs from using the loudspeakers for call to prayer......
......Super Sikularists should go to Israel and protest.....
http://www.news18.com/news/world/israel-moves-to-mute-mosques-call-to-prayer-over-loudspeakers-1357811.html
......Super Sikularists should go to Israel and protest.....
http://www.news18.com/news/world/israel-moves-to-mute-mosques-call-to-prayer-over-loudspeakers-1357811.html
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
Guruvu-gaaru, it is.
Idéfix- Posts : 8808
Join date : 2012-04-26
Location : Berkeley, CA
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
Yes. Looks like, Natan Yahoo has a friend in Trump.Idéfix wrote:Guruvu-gaaru, it is.
Coming to loudspeakers & the call to prayer, when my nephew's upanayanam was performed, at 4:30 in the morning, they were playing sannaayi when a cop showed up and asked them not to disturb the neighbourhood (Vijayanagar colony - close to Mehdipatnam & Mallepally). Fair enough. However, when people of Vijayanagar colony complained about the loudspeakers and the iSlamic sama-veda, they were told to be religiously sensitive and no action was taken.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
Join date : 2011-04-28
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.
haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?
Propagandhi711- Posts : 6941
Join date : 2011-04-29
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
Propagandhi711 wrote:MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.
haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?
Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
Join date : 2011-04-28
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
Both of them might trouble folks who sleep.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Propagandhi711 wrote:MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.
haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?
Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.
Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ?
4x | ٱللهُ أَكْبَر | Allāhu akbar | Allah1 is the greatest. |
2x | أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ | Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh | I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1. |
2x | أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله | Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh | I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood). |
2x | حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة | Hayya'alas-ṣalāh | Hasten to prayer (Salah). |
2x | حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح | Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ | Hasten to success. |
2x 2 *(Only for Fajr prayer) | ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم | As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm | Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3 |
2x | الله أكبر | Allāhu akbar | God1 is greatest. |
1x | لا إله إلا الله | Lā ilāha illā-Allāh | There is no god but Allah1. |
rawemotions- Posts : 1690
Join date : 2011-05-03
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
rawemotions wrote:Both of them might trouble folks who sleep.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Propagandhi711 wrote:MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.
haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?
Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.
Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ?
4x ٱللهُ أَكْبَر Allāhu akbar Allah1 is the greatest. 2x أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1. 2x أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood). 2x حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة Hayya'alas-ṣalāh Hasten to prayer (Salah). 2x حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ Hasten to success. 2x 2
*(Only for Fajr prayer)ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3 2x الله أكبر Allāhu akbar God1 is greatest. 1x لا إله إلا الله Lā ilāha illā-Allāh There is no god but Allah1.
That's why I prefer the American idea (not in the current broken form, but when it is working like it's supposed to) of secularism -- equal indifference towards all religions.
MaxEntropy_Man- Posts : 14702
Join date : 2011-04-28
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
Actually, Allah is just a generic name in Arabic for "God". It is not that their God is better than others. They are indoctrinated to think that their version of this "God" is the accurate one. Going a step further, Semitic faiths think that other versions are not correct and some may even be worshipping the devil (and may end up in hell)...... It is unfortunate that all the added BS is clouding the original dogma - that there is just one God in the universe.rawemotions wrote:Both of them might trouble folks who sleep.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Propagandhi711 wrote:MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.
haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?
Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.
Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ?
4x ٱللهُ أَكْبَر Allāhu akbar Allah1 is the greatest. 2x أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1. 2x أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood). 2x حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة Hayya'alas-ṣalāh Hasten to prayer (Salah). 2x حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ Hasten to success. 2x 2
*(Only for Fajr prayer)ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3 2x الله أكبر Allāhu akbar God1 is greatest. 1x لا إله إلا الله Lā ilāha illā-Allāh There is no god but Allah1.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
I would urge you to share your enlightened perception to a group of Muslims in a Muslim Dominated area in India like Mallapuram, Kashmir, UP.West Bengal, and see the result. These enlightened interpretation does not cut ice there.Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Actually, Allah is just a generic name in Arabic for "God". It is not that their God is better than others. They are indoctrinated to think that their version of this "God" is the accurate one. Going a step further, Semitic faiths think that other versions are not correct and some may even be worshipping the devil (and may end up in hell)...... It is unfortunate that all the added BS is clouding the original dogma - that there is just one God in the universe.rawemotions wrote:Both of them might trouble folks who sleep.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Propagandhi711 wrote:MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.
haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?
Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.
Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ?
4x ٱللهُ أَكْبَر Allāhu akbar Allah1 is the greatest. 2x أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1. 2x أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood). 2x حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة Hayya'alas-ṣalāh Hasten to prayer (Salah). 2x حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ Hasten to success. 2x 2
*(Only for Fajr prayer)ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3 2x الله أكبر Allāhu akbar God1 is greatest. 1x لا إله إلا الله Lā ilāha illā-Allāh There is no god but Allah1.
For the common Muslim, the entire prayer is designed to imbibe the concept of Islamic Supremacism.
rawemotions- Posts : 1690
Join date : 2011-05-03
Re: Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......
You are evading the question. You sought to equate these two.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:rawemotions wrote:Both of them might trouble folks who sleep.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Propagandhi711 wrote:MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.
haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?
Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.
Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ?
4x ٱللهُ أَكْبَر Allāhu akbar Allah1 is the greatest. 2x أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1. 2x أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood). 2x حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة Hayya'alas-ṣalāh Hasten to prayer (Salah). 2x حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ Hasten to success. 2x 2
*(Only for Fajr prayer)ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3 2x الله أكبر Allāhu akbar God1 is greatest. 1x لا إله إلا الله Lā ilāha illā-Allāh There is no god but Allah1.
That's why I prefer the American idea (not in the current broken form, but when it is working like it's supposed to) of secularism -- equal indifference towards all religions.
I think those doing so and crying hoarse about secularism , ignoring the fundamental Islamic Supremacist Rhetoric emanating from the Political Islamist establishment, are not doing any service to humankind.
rawemotions- Posts : 1690
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