Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

Height of stupidity for people to think of committing suicide.

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:1) It is ASI that has asked its local office to 'explore' if TTD and associated temples can be declared protected antique places - not Modi. 

2) Thirupathi being the most popular and IMO one of the most Shakthimaan temples I have been to, is actually run quite ok though they should solve the problem of crushing lines of people by using technology and design. Anyway we cannot trust any government, local or central, to do a better job.

In fact if you look at the hundreds of temples of Thamizhnadu that have plundered by the DMK and ADMK appointed 'trustees' it becomes very clear why tempales must be kept away and protected from all governments and politicians. Even if Modi is a different breed of politician, who is to say what his successors will do?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

Height of stupidity for people to think of committing suicide.

If you don't know the issue, keep quiet. Otherwise, you will be exposing your stupidity.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

Height of stupidity for people to think of committing suicide.

If you don't know the issue, keep quiet. Otherwise, you will be exposing your stupidity.

Wow! are you supporting suicide threats? Seva ji is right, it absolutely is height of stupidity; politicians are milking idiocy of Andhrites.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

Height of stupidity for people to think of committing suicide.

If you don't know the issue, keep quiet. Otherwise, you will be exposing your stupidity.

Wow! are you supporting suicide threats? Seva ji is right, it absolutely is height of stupidity; politicians are milking idiocy of Andhrites.

I am not supporting suicides. Seva is ignoring the feelings of these people. Looks like you are also unaware of what is going on.The whole state is boiling right now (national media is keeping quiet until now). Local BJP leaders are frantically trying to diffuse the problem.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Height of stupidity for people to think of committing suicide.

If you don't know the issue, keep quiet. Otherwise, you will be exposing your stupidity.

Wow! are you supporting suicide threats? Seva ji is right, it absolutely is height of stupidity; politicians are milking idiocy of Andhrites.

I am not supporting suicides. Seva is ignoring the feelings of these people. Looks like you are also unaware of what is going on.The whole state is boiling right now (national media is keeping quiet until now). Local BJP leaders are frantically trying to diffuse the problem.

State is boiling bcz CBN is doing a KCR

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

This is expected. Some Hindi guy has been posted as in charge of TTD (not sure why Naidu agreed to that, maybe at that time he was cozy with the Hindi masters).

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

This is expected. Some Hindi guy has been posted as in charge of TTD (not sure why Naidu agreed to that, maybe at that time he was cozy with the Hindi masters).

No, TTD is not controlled by Hindians. Tirumala temple generates a lot of revenue and has several properties across the nation making Venkateswara second only to Vatican in wealth. TTD is very well managed. Modi and gang have been playing politics with AP. In this case, however, he is playing with fire. Like all South Indians, Kannadigas are sentimental about Tirupati temple. BJP will lose votes if Tirupati becomes a major issue. Therefore, Modi's cronies (local BJP leaders) quickly ensured that the notification is withdrawn.

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

This is expected. Some Hindi guy has been posted as in charge of TTD (not sure why Naidu agreed to that, maybe at that time he was cozy with the Hindi masters).

No, TTD is not controlled by Hindians. Tirumala temple generates a lot of revenue and has several properties across the nation making Venkateswara second only to Vatican in wealth. TTD is very well managed. Modi and gang have been playing politics with AP. In this case, however, he is playing with fire. Like all South Indians, Kannadigas are sentimental about Tirupati temple. BJP will lose votes if Tirupati becomes a major issue. Therefore, Modi's cronies (local BJP leaders) quickly ensured that the notification is withdrawn.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2017/may/09/north-indian-ceo-of-tirumala-tirupati-devasthanams-sparks-controversy-1602746.html

Vizag-based Sarada Peetham pontiff Swamy Swaroopananda Saraswati questioned the state government’s wisdom in appointing a North Indian IAS officer as TTD Executive Officer. He wanted to know how a person who is neither aware of agama sastra nor speak Telugu head the holy institution. Apart from faulting the government for its decision, he also hinted at knocking the doors of the court to annul the appointment.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:......The central govt. wants to takeover Tirumala Venkateswara temple and has asked TTD to prepare for a meeting with central govt officials. As soon as the news broke out, people across Andhra became extremely angry. About 100 people declared that they will commit suicide if the central govt follows through with its plan. Local BJP leaders got panicky and contacted PMO to withdraw the notification...... 

......Apparently, the Modi govt is withdrawing the notification. It is good that he realized that he is playing with fire......

......Vinasha kaalE viparEEta buddhih......

This is expected. Some Hindi guy has been posted as in charge of TTD (not sure why Naidu agreed to that, maybe at that time he was cozy with the Hindi masters).

No, TTD is not controlled by Hindians. Tirumala temple generates a lot of revenue and has several properties across the nation making Venkateswara second only to Vatican in wealth. TTD is very well managed. Modi and gang have been playing politics with AP. In this case, however, he is playing with fire. Like all South Indians, Kannadigas are sentimental about Tirupati temple. BJP will lose votes if Tirupati becomes a major issue. Therefore, Modi's cronies (local BJP leaders) quickly ensured that the notification is withdrawn.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2017/may/09/north-indian-ceo-of-tirumala-tirupati-devasthanams-sparks-controversy-1602746.html

Vizag-based Sarada Peetham pontiff Swamy Swaroopananda Saraswati questioned the state government’s wisdom in appointing a North Indian IAS officer as TTD Executive Officer. He wanted to know how a person who is neither aware of agama sastra nor speak Telugu head the holy institution. Apart from faulting the government for its decision, he also hinted at knocking the doors of the court to annul the appointment.

There are disagreements between religious leaders and AP govt. on who controls temples. Subrahmanian Swami wants govt. to get out of controlling temples. He has a case in SC re. this. People like Swaroopananda, Paripoornananda, Chinna Jeeyar, etc., are of the same opinion. Even though temples in AP are under the control of the state govt., if there is a temple in India that strictly follows Hindu rituals 365/24/7, it is Tirupati (TN govt. also controls temples but they are not run as well as Tirupati).

The recent issue re. Tirupati temple is different. Modi govt is using the ASI to gain control of Tirupati temple. He underestimated the feelings of Andhra people. So, he quickly folded his tail and withdrew the notification.

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:


This is expected. Some Hindi guy has been posted as in charge of TTD (not sure why Naidu agreed to that, maybe at that time he was cozy with the Hindi masters).

No, TTD is not controlled by Hindians. Tirumala temple generates a lot of revenue and has several properties across the nation making Venkateswara second only to Vatican in wealth. TTD is very well managed. Modi and gang have been playing politics with AP. In this case, however, he is playing with fire. Like all South Indians, Kannadigas are sentimental about Tirupati temple. BJP will lose votes if Tirupati becomes a major issue. Therefore, Modi's cronies (local BJP leaders) quickly ensured that the notification is withdrawn.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2017/may/09/north-indian-ceo-of-tirumala-tirupati-devasthanams-sparks-controversy-1602746.html

Vizag-based Sarada Peetham pontiff Swamy Swaroopananda Saraswati questioned the state government’s wisdom in appointing a North Indian IAS officer as TTD Executive Officer. He wanted to know how a person who is neither aware of agama sastra nor speak Telugu head the holy institution. Apart from faulting the government for its decision, he also hinted at knocking the doors of the court to annul the appointment.

There are disagreements between religious leaders and AP govt. on who controls temples. Subrahmanian Swami wants govt. to get out of controlling temples. He has a case in SC re. this. People like Swaroopananda, Paripoornananda, Chinna Jeeyar, etc., are of the same opinion. Even though temples in AP are under the control of the state govt., if there is a temple in India that strictly follows Hindu rituals 365/24/7, it is Tirupati (TN govt. also controls temples but they are not run as well as Tirupati).

The recent issue re. Tirupati temple is different. Modi govt is using the ASI to gain control of Tirupati temple. He underestimated the feelings of Andhra people. So, he quickly folded his tail and withdrew the notification.

Fine. But you need to watch out all the time, Hindians can sneak in through any ways and fool the rest, like how they used the three language formula to make fools of Kannadigas, Telugus and Malayalis etc..

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
No, TTD is not controlled by Hindians. Tirumala temple generates a lot of revenue and has several properties across the nation making Venkateswara second only to Vatican in wealth. TTD is very well managed. Modi and gang have been playing politics with AP. In this case, however, he is playing with fire. Like all South Indians, Kannadigas are sentimental about Tirupati temple. BJP will lose votes if Tirupati becomes a major issue. Therefore, Modi's cronies (local BJP leaders) quickly ensured that the notification is withdrawn.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2017/may/09/north-indian-ceo-of-tirumala-tirupati-devasthanams-sparks-controversy-1602746.html

Vizag-based Sarada Peetham pontiff Swamy Swaroopananda Saraswati questioned the state government’s wisdom in appointing a North Indian IAS officer as TTD Executive Officer. He wanted to know how a person who is neither aware of agama sastra nor speak Telugu head the holy institution. Apart from faulting the government for its decision, he also hinted at knocking the doors of the court to annul the appointment.

There are disagreements between religious leaders and AP govt. on who controls temples. Subrahmanian Swami wants govt. to get out of controlling temples. He has a case in SC re. this. People like Swaroopananda, Paripoornananda, Chinna Jeeyar, etc., are of the same opinion. Even though temples in AP are under the control of the state govt., if there is a temple in India that strictly follows Hindu rituals 365/24/7, it is Tirupati (TN govt. also controls temples but they are not run as well as Tirupati).

The recent issue re. Tirupati temple is different. Modi govt is using the ASI to gain control of Tirupati temple. He underestimated the feelings of Andhra people. So, he quickly folded his tail and withdrew the notification.

Fine. But you need to watch out all the time, Hindians can sneak in through any ways and fool the rest, like how they used the three language formula to make fools of Kannadigas, Telugus and Malayalis etc..

Tirupati temple issue is becoming complicated. CBN appointed a Yadav as TTD chairman and a Dalit as a board member. Some people are opposed to both appointments. The objections are for the following reasons - The Yadav chairman is accused of attending a church in the past and the Dalit lady is supposed to be a closet Christian. We don't know if there is any truth to these allegations (or if upper caste fellows are using these as an excuse to stop a Yadav and a Dalit joining the board). There is a retired IAS officer (Krishna Rao - upper caste) who has been creating trouble for CBN.......

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:some of these Indians have become so paranoid about Modi, it is ridiculous. I guess they are just not used to capable leaders who actually do useful things for the sake of the country as opposed to enriching themselves.

@vakavaka - clearly you did not even read what I wrote as my opinion on the issue before responding. WHy are you so anxious to turn everything into a moronic rant against Modi? When you do that, even real issues that we should be challenging the government with get side tracked.

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:some of these Indians have become so paranoid about Modi, it is ridiculous. I guess they are just not used to capable leaders who actually do useful things for the sake of the country as opposed to enriching themselves.

@vakavaka - clearly you did not even read what I wrote as my opinion on the issue before responding. WHy are you so anxious to turn everything into a moronic rant against Modi? When you do that, even real issues that we should be challenging the government with get side tracked.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:


http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2017/may/09/north-indian-ceo-of-tirumala-tirupati-devasthanams-sparks-controversy-1602746.html

Vizag-based Sarada Peetham pontiff Swamy Swaroopananda Saraswati questioned the state government’s wisdom in appointing a North Indian IAS officer as TTD Executive Officer. He wanted to know how a person who is neither aware of agama sastra nor speak Telugu head the holy institution. Apart from faulting the government for its decision, he also hinted at knocking the doors of the court to annul the appointment.

There are disagreements between religious leaders and AP govt. on who controls temples. Subrahmanian Swami wants govt. to get out of controlling temples. He has a case in SC re. this. People like Swaroopananda, Paripoornananda, Chinna Jeeyar, etc., are of the same opinion. Even though temples in AP are under the control of the state govt., if there is a temple in India that strictly follows Hindu rituals 365/24/7, it is Tirupati (TN govt. also controls temples but they are not run as well as Tirupati).

The recent issue re. Tirupati temple is different. Modi govt is using the ASI to gain control of Tirupati temple. He underestimated the feelings of Andhra people. So, he quickly folded his tail and withdrew the notification.

Fine. But you need to watch out all the time, Hindians can sneak in through any ways and fool the rest, like how they used the three language formula to make fools of Kannadigas, Telugus and Malayalis etc..

Tirupati temple issue is becoming complicated. CBN appointed a Yadav as TTD chairman and a Dalit as a board member. Some people are opposed to both appointments. The objections are for the following reasons - The Yadav chairman is accused of attending a church in the past and the Dalit lady is supposed to be a closet Christian. We don't know if there is any truth to these allegations (or if upper caste fellows are using these as an excuse to stop a Yadav and a Dalit joining the board). There is a retired IAS officer (Krishna Rao - upper caste) who has been creating trouble for CBN.......

All of sudden you're at odds with Hindu Dharma! Remember, Modi is savior of Hindu Dharma not CBN. I guess now you think CBN is the savior.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:some of these Indians have become so paranoid about Modi, it is ridiculous. I guess they are just not used to capable leaders who actually do useful things for the sake of the country as opposed to enriching themselves.

@vakavaka - clearly you did not even read what I wrote as my opinion on the issue before responding. WHy are you so anxious to turn everything into a moronic rant against Modi? When you do that, even real issues that we should be challenging the government with get side tracked.

Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Too bad that veteran southern Indians like Sandilya realized that northindian politicians regardless of party are only interested in hegemony over the south only after the breakup of their state.  Southern Indians have a lot more cultural and linguistic ties beyond religion. If only they had heeded Tamilians' warnings early.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
No, TTD is not controlled by Hindians. Tirumala temple generates a lot of revenue and has several properties across the nation making Venkateswara second only to Vatican in wealth. TTD is very well managed. Modi and gang have been playing politics with AP. In this case, however, he is playing with fire. Like all South Indians, Kannadigas are sentimental about Tirupati temple. BJP will lose votes if Tirupati becomes a major issue. Therefore, Modi's cronies (local BJP leaders) quickly ensured that the notification is withdrawn.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2017/may/09/north-indian-ceo-of-tirumala-tirupati-devasthanams-sparks-controversy-1602746.html

Vizag-based Sarada Peetham pontiff Swamy Swaroopananda Saraswati questioned the state government’s wisdom in appointing a North Indian IAS officer as TTD Executive Officer. He wanted to know how a person who is neither aware of agama sastra nor speak Telugu head the holy institution. Apart from faulting the government for its decision, he also hinted at knocking the doors of the court to annul the appointment.

There are disagreements between religious leaders and AP govt. on who controls temples. Subrahmanian Swami wants govt. to get out of controlling temples. He has a case in SC re. this. People like Swaroopananda, Paripoornananda, Chinna Jeeyar, etc., are of the same opinion. Even though temples in AP are under the control of the state govt., if there is a temple in India that strictly follows Hindu rituals 365/24/7, it is Tirupati (TN govt. also controls temples but they are not run as well as Tirupati).

The recent issue re. Tirupati temple is different. Modi govt is using the ASI to gain control of Tirupati temple. He underestimated the feelings of Andhra people. So, he quickly folded his tail and withdrew the notification.

Fine. But you need to watch out all the time, Hindians can sneak in through any ways and fool the rest, like how they used the three language formula to make fools of Kannadigas, Telugus and Malayalis etc..

Tirupati temple issue is becoming complicated. CBN appointed a Yadav as TTD chairman and a Dalit as a board member. Some people are opposed to both appointments. The objections are for the following reasons - The Yadav chairman is accused of attending a church in the past and the Dalit lady is supposed to be a closet Christian. We don't know if there is any truth to these allegations (or if upper caste fellows are using these as an excuse to stop a Yadav and a Dalit joining the board). There is a retired IAS officer (Krishna Rao - upper caste) who has been creating trouble for CBN.......

garam-kuta wrote:dr VP is a caste-based supporter of babu. now that modi is not allowing babu to loot, dr VP turned against modi. that's all there is to it. not because he suddenly realized NI/SI issues.

garam-kuta wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:


http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/andhra-pradesh/2017/may/09/north-indian-ceo-of-tirumala-tirupati-devasthanams-sparks-controversy-1602746.html

Vizag-based Sarada Peetham pontiff Swamy Swaroopananda Saraswati questioned the state government’s wisdom in appointing a North Indian IAS officer as TTD Executive Officer. He wanted to know how a person who is neither aware of agama sastra nor speak Telugu head the holy institution. Apart from faulting the government for its decision, he also hinted at knocking the doors of the court to annul the appointment.

There are disagreements between religious leaders and AP govt. on who controls temples. Subrahmanian Swami wants govt. to get out of controlling temples. He has a case in SC re. this. People like Swaroopananda, Paripoornananda, Chinna Jeeyar, etc., are of the same opinion. Even though temples in AP are under the control of the state govt., if there is a temple in India that strictly follows Hindu rituals 365/24/7, it is Tirupati (TN govt. also controls temples but they are not run as well as Tirupati).

The recent issue re. Tirupati temple is different. Modi govt is using the ASI to gain control of Tirupati temple. He underestimated the feelings of Andhra people. So, he quickly folded his tail and withdrew the notification.

Fine. But you need to watch out all the time, Hindians can sneak in through any ways and fool the rest, like how they used the three language formula to make fools of Kannadigas, Telugus and Malayalis etc..

Tirupati temple issue is becoming complicated. CBN appointed a Yadav as TTD chairman and a Dalit as a board member. Some people are opposed to both appointments. The objections are for the following reasons - The Yadav chairman is accused of attending a church in the past and the Dalit lady is supposed to be a closet Christian. We don't know if there is any truth to these allegations (or if upper caste fellows are using these as an excuse to stop a Yadav and a Dalit joining the board). There is a retired IAS officer (Krishna Rao - upper caste) who has been creating trouble for CBN.......

hahaha. they used their caste card to hold on to their TTD board appointments when their christian sympathies were exposed. she openly declared on live tv that she is a christian and carrries a bible with her always, in car and home.  and you were not worried about her appointment because your caste cm appointed her. if jagan or soonya appointed such persons to TTD, you will be hitting the roof.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:dr VP is a caste-based supporter of babu. now that modi is not allowing babu to loot, dr VP turned against modi. that's all there is to it. not because he suddenly realized NI/SI issues.

I don't belong to his caste, nor do I support caste-based reservations. Modi Bhasmasur sucks :-).

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
There are disagreements between religious leaders and AP govt. on who controls temples. Subrahmanian Swami wants govt. to get out of controlling temples. He has a case in SC re. this. People like Swaroopananda, Paripoornananda, Chinna Jeeyar, etc., are of the same opinion. Even though temples in AP are under the control of the state govt., if there is a temple in India that strictly follows Hindu rituals 365/24/7, it is Tirupati (TN govt. also controls temples but they are not run as well as Tirupati).

The recent issue re. Tirupati temple is different. Modi govt is using the ASI to gain control of Tirupati temple. He underestimated the feelings of Andhra people. So, he quickly folded his tail and withdrew the notification.

Fine. But you need to watch out all the time, Hindians can sneak in through any ways and fool the rest, like how they used the three language formula to make fools of Kannadigas, Telugus and Malayalis etc..

Tirupati temple issue is becoming complicated. CBN appointed a Yadav as TTD chairman and a Dalit as a board member. Some people are opposed to both appointments. The objections are for the following reasons - The Yadav chairman is accused of attending a church in the past and the Dalit lady is supposed to be a closet Christian. We don't know if there is any truth to these allegations (or if upper caste fellows are using these as an excuse to stop a Yadav and a Dalit joining the board). There is a retired IAS officer (Krishna Rao - upper caste) who has been creating trouble for CBN.......

hahaha. they used their caste card to hold on to their TTD board appointments when their christian sympathies were exposed. she openly declared on live tv that she is a christian and carrries a bible with her always, in car and home.  and you were not worried about her appointment because your caste cm appointed her. if jagan or soonya appointed such persons to TTD, you will be hitting the roof.

You are right about Anita (I don't think she is Kamma, I read that she is Dalit). She did quit. How about the Yadav guy - why are people opposed to him? Apparently, he is a Krishna bhakt. How about Jagan - is he Hindu or Christian? Someone was reading the guidelines for appointment to the TTD board on TV5 - if the Yadav guy is not a Christian bhakt, he is fully eligible.
What do you think of IVR Krishna Rao?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:dr VP is a caste-based supporter of babu. now that modi is not allowing babu to loot, dr VP turned against modi. that's all there is to it. not because he suddenly realized NI/SI issues.

I don't belong to his caste, nor do I support caste-based reservations. Modi Bhasmasur sucks :-).

BJP fellows are not complaining that CBN is corrupt. They seem to suggest that other members of the TDP govt are looting. The two BJP ministers in CBN'c cabinet made glowing comments about him when they resigned. Purandhareswari, apparently, is settling scores with CBN. Also, Vijaya Sai Reddy & IVR Krishna Rao fed the PMO with info suggesting that TDP govt is looting public funds.....

garam-kuta wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:dr VP is a caste-based supporter of babu. now that modi is not allowing babu to loot, dr VP turned against modi. that's all there is to it. not because he suddenly realized NI/SI issues.

I don't belong to his caste, nor do I support caste-based reservations. Modi Bhasmasur sucks :-).

BJP fellows are not complaining that CBN is corrupt. They seem to suggest that other members of the TDP govt are looting. The two BJP ministers in CBN'c cabinet made glowing comments about him when they resigned. Purandhareswari, apparently, is settling scores with CBN. Also, Vijaya Sai Reddy & IVR Krishna Rao fed the PMO with info suggesting that TDP govt is looting public funds.....

you seem to be very misinformed. everyone in andhra and bjp knows how corrupt the pedda and china babu are. from pattiseema(documented by CAG) to temporary secretariat to polavaram project cost escalations to illegal sand mining in rivers. modi is not an innocent child to just go by reports of IVR and reddy. he has access to intelligence briefings and ground reports.  wait for a couple of months. they(bjp) will come out with full details. only problem for andhra voters is chinna geeta vs pedda geeta that is devil vs the deep sea as the alternative is not any better.

garam-kuta wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Ponniyin Selvan wrote:

Fine. But you need to watch out all the time, Hindians can sneak in through any ways and fool the rest, like how they used the three language formula to make fools of Kannadigas, Telugus and Malayalis etc..

Tirupati temple issue is becoming complicated. CBN appointed a Yadav as TTD chairman and a Dalit as a board member. Some people are opposed to both appointments. The objections are for the following reasons - The Yadav chairman is accused of attending a church in the past and the Dalit lady is supposed to be a closet Christian. We don't know if there is any truth to these allegations (or if upper caste fellows are using these as an excuse to stop a Yadav and a Dalit joining the board). There is a retired IAS officer (Krishna Rao - upper caste) who has been creating trouble for CBN.......

hahaha. they used their caste card to hold on to their TTD board appointments when their christian sympathies were exposed. she openly declared on live tv that she is a christian and carrries a bible with her always, in car and home.  and you were not worried about her appointment because your caste cm appointed her. if jagan or soonya appointed such persons to TTD, you will be hitting the roof.

You are right about Anita (I don't think she is Kamma, I read that she is Dalit). She did quit. How about the Yadav guy - why are people opposed to him? Apparently, he is a Krishna bhakt. How about Jagan - is he Hindu or Christian? Someone was reading the guidelines for appointment to the TTD board on TV5 - if the Yadav guy is not a Christian bhakt, he is fully eligible.
What do you think of IVR Krishna Rao?

dalit/bc is the most powerful caste card if you didn't know.
These are dorikina dongalu. some are (inkaa) dorakani dongalu. these ttd posts are in demand, not because they just want to serve the swami and his devotees. there are a lot of opportunities to make money. from selling the quota darshan/seva tickets in black to looting the rich temple with a huge income and budget.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:some of these Indians have become so paranoid about Modi, it is ridiculous. I guess they are just not used to capable leaders who actually do useful things for the sake of the country as opposed to enriching themselves.

@vakavaka - clearly you did not even read what I wrote as my opinion on the issue before responding. WHy are you so anxious to turn everything into a moronic rant against Modi? When you do that, even real issues that we should be challenging the government with get side tracked.

Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:some of these Indians have become so paranoid about Modi, it is ridiculous. I guess they are just not used to capable leaders who actually do useful things for the sake of the country as opposed to enriching themselves.

@vakavaka - clearly you did not even read what I wrote as my opinion on the issue before responding. WHy are you so anxious to turn everything into a moronic rant against Modi? When you do that, even real issues that we should be challenging the government with get side tracked.

Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:some of these Indians have become so paranoid about Modi, it is ridiculous. I guess they are just not used to capable leaders who actually do useful things for the sake of the country as opposed to enriching themselves.

@vakavaka - clearly you did not even read what I wrote as my opinion on the issue before responding. WHy are you so anxious to turn everything into a moronic rant against Modi? When you do that, even real issues that we should be challenging the government with get side tracked.

Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT?

He considers himself an expert on all topics Indian. He once wrote a long article (ask him, he'll gladly share it with you) on how all Indian languages were born of (born of, mind you, not just influenced heavily by or share significant vocabulary with) Sanskrit. I had a long and fairly unproductive discussion with him trying to convince him this is not so. His attitude about such matters usually is, he says so, hence it is. Good luck.  You'll need it if you decide to continue this discussion.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:some of these Indians have become so paranoid about Modi, it is ridiculous. I guess they are just not used to capable leaders who actually do useful things for the sake of the country as opposed to enriching themselves.

@vakavaka - clearly you did not even read what I wrote as my opinion on the issue before responding. WHy are you so anxious to turn everything into a moronic rant against Modi? When you do that, even real issues that we should be challenging the government with get side tracked.

Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Kudanthaikaaran wrote:some of these Indians have become so paranoid about Modi, it is ridiculous. I guess they are just not used to capable leaders who actually do useful things for the sake of the country as opposed to enriching themselves.

@vakavaka - clearly you did not even read what I wrote as my opinion on the issue before responding. WHy are you so anxious to turn everything into a moronic rant against Modi? When you do that, even real issues that we should be challenging the government with get side tracked.

Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

Hmmm... weren't you a proponent of this. Reminds me of I'm antiabortion unless it's the one got for my secret mistress

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

Hmmm... weren't you a proponent of this. Reminds me of I'm antiabortion unless it's the one got for my secret mistress

You are not that different from Jagan. For the last 4 years, he has been trying hard to scuttle CBN's plans. Now, for votes in Krishna district, he wants to rename it NTR jillaa! Tomorrow, he will promise voters that he will name Chittur district CBN jillaa. If Modi helps him with his court cases, he may promise the country that he will re-name AP Narendra Bhai Pradesh....  LOL.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

Hmmm... weren't you a proponent of this. Reminds me of I'm antiabortion unless it's the one got for my secret mistress

You are not that different from Jagan. For the last 4 years, he has been trying hard to scuttle CBN's plans. Now, for votes in Krishna district, he wants to rename it NTR jillaa! Tomorrow, he will promise voters that he will name Chittur district CBN jillaa. If Modi helps him with his court cases, he may promise the country that he will re-name AP Narendra Bhai Pradesh....  LOL.

? I can never support Modi. Ee endaki Aa godugu pattatam tamari pravruthi nAdi kAdu

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Just a case of some people not getting freebies or their grandiose plans funded by Modi and his Govt. Most of the honest and hard working people, including Telugus in Andhra, probably have no time for it.

You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

The per capita GDP of Himachal (even with the special status) is in the same range as per capita GDP of Andhra (sans special status). The idea behind special status to border hilly states is to maintain enough people living in them so that the foreigners don't intrude in these places in India and occupy them. It's a type of military check against the foreigners without having to commit and pay for full military, which will need huge military manpower and expenditure. Moreover, this type of defense mechanism against the foreigners intruding and occupying India involves a very small cost, just a special status to these hilly / bordering states to have people (Indian citizens) living in bordering / hilly areas. 

As for the proposal asking the Centre to build capitals and grant special status to states after breaking up because one of the breaking parts may feel that it did not get a fair deal during the breakup, that makes little sense. If there is going to be any kind of compensation, it should be from the part / party which supposedly got more, and not from the outsiders (including the Center). 

If tomorrow U.P. divides, like some UPeans want, do you think it is the job of the Center to build a capital for one part or the other and grant a special status to one part or the other? Certainly not, IMO.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
You should first get rid of your ignorance on this topic. None in AP is asking for freebies. They are simply asking Modi to implement the AP reorganization act passed in parliament. What is wrong with that?

If you are so concerned about freebies, you should ask the people of Himachal Pradesh to give up on the central govt funding 90% on most things. Also, they should work for their revenue. Right now, the money collected from Southern states goes for states like Himachal Pradesh.

It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

The per capita GDP of Himachal (even with the special status) is in the same range as per capita GDP of Andhra (sans special status). The idea behind special status to border hilly states is to maintain enough people living in them so that the foreigners don't intrude in these places in India and occupy them. It's a type of military check against the foreigners without having to commit and pay for full military, which will need huge military manpower and expenditure. Moreover, this type of defense mechanism against the foreigners intruding and occupying India involves a very small cost, just a special status to these hilly / bordering states to have people (Indian citizens) living in bordering / hilly areas. 

As for the proposal asking the Centre to build capitals and grant special status to states after breaking up because one of the breaking parts may feel that it did not get a fair deal during the breakup, that makes little sense. If there is going to be any kind of compensation, it should be from the part / party which supposedly got more, and not from the outsiders (including the Center). 

If tomorrow U.P. divides, like some UPeans want, do you think it is the job of the Center to build a capital for one part or the other and grant a special status to one part or the other? Certainly not, IMO.

Btw U.P. is a north Indian state, lest someone thinks otherwise.

garam-kuta wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
It makes no sense in your comparing highly industrialized Andhra (with a lot of aerospace and pharmaceutical industry, along with naval ports and facilities) against the thinly and sporadically populated hilly Himachal Pradesh which has negligible industry and industrial base. The special status to the hilly states (e.g. Himachal) is basically to keep their population living in those states instead of moving and running to other places (states) in search of jobs and better life which, if not discouraged through special status etc., would reduce the population in hilly / bordering states even further.

You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

The per capita GDP of Himachal (even with the special status) is in the same range as per capita GDP of Andhra (sans special status). The idea behind special status to border hilly states is to maintain enough people living in them so that the foreigners don't intrude in these places in India and occupy them. It's a type of military check against the foreigners without having to commit and pay for full military, which will need huge military manpower and expenditure. Moreover, this type of defense mechanism against the foreigners intruding and occupying India involves a very small cost, just a special status to these hilly / bordering states to have people (Indian citizens) living in bordering / hilly areas. 

As for the proposal asking the Centre to build capitals and grant special status to states after breaking up because one of the breaking parts may feel that it did not get a fair deal during the breakup, that makes little sense. If there is going to be any kind of compensation, it should be from the part / party which supposedly got more, and not from the outsiders (including the Center). 

If tomorrow U.P. divides, like some UPeans want, do you think it is the job of the Center to build a capital for one part or the other and grant a special status to one part or the other? Certainly not, IMO.

Btw U.P. is a north Indian state, lest someone thinks otherwise.

you are incredibly ignorant. i suggest you to STFU on subjects in which you have least knowledge and demonstrate your ignorance.

confuzzled dude wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
You are wrong. Andhra is not highly industrialized. It is mostly an agriculture based state. Most of the industries you listed now belong to Telangana. Why are you opposed to implementation of the AP reorganization ACT? Modi, who wants to build a new business based large city in Gujarat (with thousands of crores) and a statue for Patel with 2500 crores, is asking AP to build its capital with 1500 crores. Is he PM of India or Gujarat?

The per capita GDP of Himachal (even with the special status) is in the same range as per capita GDP of Andhra (sans special status). The idea behind special status to border hilly states is to maintain enough people living in them so that the foreigners don't intrude in these places in India and occupy them. It's a type of military check against the foreigners without having to commit and pay for full military, which will need huge military manpower and expenditure. Moreover, this type of defense mechanism against the foreigners intruding and occupying India involves a very small cost, just a special status to these hilly / bordering states to have people (Indian citizens) living in bordering / hilly areas. 

As for the proposal asking the Centre to build capitals and grant special status to states after breaking up because one of the breaking parts may feel that it did not get a fair deal during the breakup, that makes little sense. If there is going to be any kind of compensation, it should be from the part / party which supposedly got more, and not from the outsiders (including the Center). 

If tomorrow U.P. divides, like some UPeans want, do you think it is the job of the Center to build a capital for one part or the other and grant a special status to one part or the other? Certainly not, IMO.

Btw U.P. is a north Indian state, lest someone thinks otherwise.

you are incredibly ignorant. i suggest you to STFU on subjects in which you have least knowledge and demonstrate your ignorance.

I agree with Seva ji and I was making  the same argument the other day. It is incredibly stupid for central government to fund huge sums to build world class state capitals, it sets wrong precedence. Tomorrow another state will split and will ask for the same. Andhra folks are very emotional (and are completely irrational) about this issue and local politicians are thoroughly exploiting them. What a shame.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
The per capita GDP of Himachal (even with the special status) is in the same range as per capita GDP of Andhra (sans special status). The idea behind special status to border hilly states is to maintain enough people living in them so that the foreigners don't intrude in these places in India and occupy them. It's a type of military check against the foreigners without having to commit and pay for full military, which will need huge military manpower and expenditure. Moreover, this type of defense mechanism against the foreigners intruding and occupying India involves a very small cost, just a special status to these hilly / bordering states to have people (Indian citizens) living in bordering / hilly areas. 

As for the proposal asking the Centre to build capitals and grant special status to states after breaking up because one of the breaking parts may feel that it did not get a fair deal during the breakup, that makes little sense. If there is going to be any kind of compensation, it should be from the part / party which supposedly got more, and not from the outsiders (including the Center). 

If tomorrow U.P. divides, like some UPeans want, do you think it is the job of the Center to build a capital for one part or the other and grant a special status to one part or the other? Certainly not, IMO.

Btw U.P. is a north Indian state, lest someone thinks otherwise.

you are incredibly ignorant. i suggest you to STFU on subjects in which you have least knowledge and demonstrate your ignorance.

I agree with Seva ji and I was making  the same argument the other day. It is incredibly stupid for central government to fund huge sums to build world class state capitals, it sets wrong precedence. Tomorrow another state will split and will ask for the same. Andhra folks are very emotional (and are completely irrational) about this issue and local politicians are thoroughly exploiting them. What a shame.

Don't worry, Jagan will eventually go to jail and the people of AP will build Amaravati. Seva doesn't understand the problem and like Jagan and Vijaya Sai Reddy, settling scores with CBN is more important for you than the future of Andhra.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Btw U.P. is a north Indian state, lest someone thinks otherwise.

you are incredibly ignorant. i suggest you to STFU on subjects in which you have least knowledge and demonstrate your ignorance.

I agree with Seva ji and I was making  the same argument the other day. It is incredibly stupid for central government to fund huge sums to build world class state capitals, it sets wrong precedence. Tomorrow another state will split and will ask for the same. Andhra folks are very emotional (and are completely irrational) about this issue and local politicians are thoroughly exploiting them. What a shame.

Don't worry, Jagan will eventually go to jail and the people of AP will build Amaravati. Seva doesn't understand the problem and like Jagan and Vijaya Sai Reddy, settling scores with CBN is more important for you than the future of Andhra.

Weren't Andhra folks crowing that they developed Hyderabad on their own, why can't they do that now rather than crying for dole? mAta kOtalu dAtayi gAni chEtalu mAtram soonyam

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

garam-kuta wrote:
you are incredibly ignorant. i suggest you to STFU on subjects in which you have least knowledge and demonstrate your ignorance.

I agree with Seva ji and I was making  the same argument the other day. It is incredibly stupid for central government to fund huge sums to build world class state capitals, it sets wrong precedence. Tomorrow another state will split and will ask for the same. Andhra folks are very emotional (and are completely irrational) about this issue and local politicians are thoroughly exploiting them. What a shame.

Don't worry, Jagan will eventually go to jail and the people of AP will build Amaravati. Seva doesn't understand the problem and like Jagan and Vijaya Sai Reddy, settling scores with CBN is more important for you than the future of Andhra.

Weren't Andhra folks crowing that they developed Hyderabad on their own, why can't they do that now rather than crying for dole? mAta kOtalu dAtayi gAni chEtalu mAtram soonyam

Hyderabad was there even before Bangalore etc. and before any of us (including KCR & CBN) were born.  Moreover, Hyderabad has been evolving and developing industrially for a long time , including in IT when computers came (like many cities around the world).

As for the significant industrial sector in Andhra Pradesh already, let's look at as example at just a few places / regions in Andhra:
Vijayanagaram (country's largest ferromanganese plant, manufacturing jute twine, ferro alloys, sugar, cement, pharmaceuticals, sponge and iron), Nellore (Nippo batterires, Apache leather factory), 
Vijayawada (cement, Siris phamaceuticals, petroleum products), 
Visakahapatnam (IT, textiles, medical equipment, naval trading & facilities), Chittoor (textile / silk, granite), 
Sriharikota (satellite launching  / aerospace),
and so on.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
I agree with Seva ji and I was making  the same argument the other day. It is incredibly stupid for central government to fund huge sums to build world class state capitals, it sets wrong precedence. Tomorrow another state will split and will ask for the same. Andhra folks are very emotional (and are completely irrational) about this issue and local politicians are thoroughly exploiting them. What a shame.

Don't worry, Jagan will eventually go to jail and the people of AP will build Amaravati. Seva doesn't understand the problem and like Jagan and Vijaya Sai Reddy, settling scores with CBN is more important for you than the future of Andhra.

Weren't Andhra folks crowing that they developed Hyderabad on their own, why can't they do that now rather than crying for dole? mAta kOtalu dAtayi gAni chEtalu mAtram soonyam

Hyderabad was there even before Bangalore etc. and before any of us (including KCR & CBN) were born.  Moreover, Hyderabad has been evolving and developing industrially for a long time , including in IT when computers came (like many cities around the world).

As for the significant industrial sector in Andhra Pradesh already, let's look at as example at just a few places / regions in Andhra:
Vijayanagaram (country's largest ferromanganese plant, manufacturing jute twine, ferro alloys, sugar, cement, pharmaceuticals, sponge and iron), Nellore (Nippo batterires, Apache leather factory), 
Vijayawada (cement, Siris phamaceuticals, petroleum products), 
Visakahapatnam (IT, textiles, medical equipment, naval trading & facilities), Chittoor (textile / silk, granite), 
Sriharikota (satellite launching  / aerospace),
and so on.

Give up on this and stop making an ass of yourself. If CD praises you, he has an agenda.