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'No Talibani thought in India': Diggy Raja
Digvijaya Singh slams Haji Ali: No 'talibani' thought in India
Mumbai: In a fresh controversy that sparked agitations across the women’s liberation group in the country, Bhartiya Muslim Mahila Andolan (BMMA) is going to approach the state authorities on 'restricted entry to women at dargahs’ diktat.
The ban has existed for a year at the Haji Ali dargah, which allows women to offer prayers and chaddar from behind a barrier, thus preventing them from touching the resting place of the saint.
On this Digvijay Singh tweets, “Not allowing Women to visit Haji Ali is a regressive step. Liberal Muslims must rise to oppose it.”
"This is shocking and shameful. This is a regressive step that will further fuel Islamophobia and encourage the detractors of Islam to allege that the religion practices discrimination against women," said distressed Javed Anand of Muslims for Secular Democracy (MSD).
Urdu columnist Hasan Kamaal has expressed serious disagreement over the issue naming it as "extreme misogyny". "If women and men are allowed to go around the holy Kaaba, and perform haj and umrah (mini-haj) together, why cannot they pray at the dargahs together? It is an insult to the legacy of Sufism, which is moderate and inclusive," said Kamaal.
Suhail Khandwani, trustee of the Haji Ali dargah and managing trustee of Mahim's Makhdoom Shah Baba's Dargah asserted that the law will be implemented in every dargah eventually, as the Sharia law claims that no woman can visit a cemetery or a grave.
Incidentally, several women liberation organizations feel that public profile has not led to equality or an end to oppression for women. More freedom about sex has often meant exploitation rather than liberation for the fairer sex. "Managements can't run dargahs according to their whims and fancies," said Hasina Khan, Awaaz-e-Nizwaan, an NGO expressing her concern on the issue.
On the contrary, Sunni and Deobandi clerics support this decision. "The sharia does not allow intermingling of men and women at any place. The visit of women to graves is forbidden. It is welcome that the dargahs are following this rule," said Maulana Athar Ali, a Sunni cleric. Senior Deobandi cleric Maulana Mahmood Daryabadi is echoing a similar view.
BMMA had recently surveyed 20 dargahs in Mumbai and had offered prayers inside the sanctum sanctorum last year.
http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/MAH-MUM----cant-allow-talibani-thought-in-india---digvijay-singh----4016774-NOR.html
Mumbai: In a fresh controversy that sparked agitations across the women’s liberation group in the country, Bhartiya Muslim Mahila Andolan (BMMA) is going to approach the state authorities on 'restricted entry to women at dargahs’ diktat.
The ban has existed for a year at the Haji Ali dargah, which allows women to offer prayers and chaddar from behind a barrier, thus preventing them from touching the resting place of the saint.
On this Digvijay Singh tweets, “Not allowing Women to visit Haji Ali is a regressive step. Liberal Muslims must rise to oppose it.”
"This is shocking and shameful. This is a regressive step that will further fuel Islamophobia and encourage the detractors of Islam to allege that the religion practices discrimination against women," said distressed Javed Anand of Muslims for Secular Democracy (MSD).
Urdu columnist Hasan Kamaal has expressed serious disagreement over the issue naming it as "extreme misogyny". "If women and men are allowed to go around the holy Kaaba, and perform haj and umrah (mini-haj) together, why cannot they pray at the dargahs together? It is an insult to the legacy of Sufism, which is moderate and inclusive," said Kamaal.
Suhail Khandwani, trustee of the Haji Ali dargah and managing trustee of Mahim's Makhdoom Shah Baba's Dargah asserted that the law will be implemented in every dargah eventually, as the Sharia law claims that no woman can visit a cemetery or a grave.
Incidentally, several women liberation organizations feel that public profile has not led to equality or an end to oppression for women. More freedom about sex has often meant exploitation rather than liberation for the fairer sex. "Managements can't run dargahs according to their whims and fancies," said Hasina Khan, Awaaz-e-Nizwaan, an NGO expressing her concern on the issue.
On the contrary, Sunni and Deobandi clerics support this decision. "The sharia does not allow intermingling of men and women at any place. The visit of women to graves is forbidden. It is welcome that the dargahs are following this rule," said Maulana Athar Ali, a Sunni cleric. Senior Deobandi cleric Maulana Mahmood Daryabadi is echoing a similar view.
BMMA had recently surveyed 20 dargahs in Mumbai and had offered prayers inside the sanctum sanctorum last year.
http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/MAH-MUM----cant-allow-talibani-thought-in-india---digvijay-singh----4016774-NOR.html
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Re: 'No Talibani thought in India': Diggy Raja
The full text of Diggy Raja's tweet:
Not allowing Women to visit Haji Ali is a regressive step. Liberal Muslims must rise to oppose it. Can't allow Talibani thought in India.
I support Diggy Raja's views about not allowing Talibani thought in India.
Not allowing Women to visit Haji Ali is a regressive step. Liberal Muslims must rise to oppose it. Can't allow Talibani thought in India.
I support Diggy Raja's views about not allowing Talibani thought in India.
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Re: 'No Talibani thought in India': Diggy Raja
Rashmun wrote:The full text of Diggy Raja's tweet:
Not allowing Women to visit Haji Ali is a regressive step. Liberal Muslims must rise to oppose it. Can't allow Talibani thought in India.
I support Diggy Raja's views about not allowing Talibani thought in India.
Phewww....Now DonkeyRaja can breathe easy.
P.S. reminds me of "I support this Message" at the end of a political "Ad".
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Re: 'No Talibani thought in India': Diggy Raja
The fact that Diggy Raja has slammed islamic fundamentalism should be appreciated by those who think he only targets hindu religious extremism.
I support the fact that Diggy Raja is encouraging liberal muslims to oppose islamic religious extremism.
I support the fact that Diggy Raja is encouraging liberal muslims to oppose islamic religious extremism.
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Re: 'No Talibani thought in India': Diggy Raja
Rashmun wrote:The fact that Diggy Raja has slammed islamic fundamentalism should be appreciated by those who think he only targets hindu religious extremism.
I support the fact that Diggy Raja is encouraging liberal muslims to oppose islamic religious extremism.
What is important is HOW he is opposing. If it had been a Hindu temple or an institution, he would have gone on and on and on blabbering and blaming BJP, RSS, all Hindus, Anna, Kejriwal, Modi, Modi's neighbor's dog...and so on.
He just paid lip service like you and your "rear-guard" hero Maulana do here every now and then.
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Re: 'No Talibani thought in India': Diggy Raja
Don't the so-called Liberal Muslims have any sense at all, that they are keeping quiet about this ?
There is apparently a movie dealing with Muslim divorce directed by a Muslim, and a fatwa has been issued against it by a Jaipur based Imam. If India keeps importing Arabic descent folks, into positions of religious influence this is bound to happen.
In another recent Hindi movie that makes fun of gods/priestdom, there was a scene that shows christian priests in bad light. The Christians got Ambika Soni (allegedly she is Christian) to intercede and overturn the ruling by the censor board, and the movie was allowed only when the scenes against Christian priests were cut. They also have demanded that Ambika Sack the censor board panel. However, the movie had many scenes against Hindu priests also, and they were not cut, nor did Ambika Soni deem it fit, to be balanced about it.
All this indicates that this government listens to Christians/Muslims, but do not show the same courtesy to Hindus.
There is apparently a movie dealing with Muslim divorce directed by a Muslim, and a fatwa has been issued against it by a Jaipur based Imam. If India keeps importing Arabic descent folks, into positions of religious influence this is bound to happen.
In another recent Hindi movie that makes fun of gods/priestdom, there was a scene that shows christian priests in bad light. The Christians got Ambika Soni (allegedly she is Christian) to intercede and overturn the ruling by the censor board, and the movie was allowed only when the scenes against Christian priests were cut. They also have demanded that Ambika Sack the censor board panel. However, the movie had many scenes against Hindu priests also, and they were not cut, nor did Ambika Soni deem it fit, to be balanced about it.
All this indicates that this government listens to Christians/Muslims, but do not show the same courtesy to Hindus.
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Re: 'No Talibani thought in India': Diggy Raja
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Rashmun wrote:The fact that Diggy Raja has slammed islamic fundamentalism should be appreciated by those who think he only targets hindu religious extremism.
I support the fact that Diggy Raja is encouraging liberal muslims to oppose islamic religious extremism.
What is important is HOW he is opposing. If it had been a Hindu temple or an institution, he would have gone on and on and on blabbering and blaming BJP, RSS, all Hindus, Anna, Kejriwal, Modi, Modi's neighbor's dog...and so on.
He just paid lip service like you and your "rear-guard" hero Maulana do here every now and then.
the fact that Diggy Raja has compared the organizers at Haji Ali shrine with Taliban means he has slammed them to the maximum extent possible. what else do you want him to do?
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Re: 'No Talibani thought in India': Diggy Raja
Rashmun wrote:
the fact that Diggy Raja has compared the organizers at Haji Ali shrine with Taliban means he has slammed them to the maximum extent possible. what else do you want him to do?
I want to see if he goes on and on for days and weeks - that will prove his sincere opposition. Otherwise it is just a lip service.
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