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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:26 pm

We all thought that Kayar Vizhi is crazy when she writes about the sentiments of Tamils toward LTTE. Looking at how K'nidhi and Jaya are behaving, perhaps, KV isn't all that unrealistic. Just as CONartists do anything for vote-bank politics, DKheads seem to sacrifice national interest for the same. Does the average Tamil support LTTE to the extent that India's national interests are compromised? Are the TN politicians pushing Sri Lanka into Paki and Chinese laps for local votes? Why is the central CONgovt bending foreign policy to suite LTTE's agenda? Recently, a Paki poster on TOI was claiming that India supports cross-border terrorism in Sri Lanka.

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Post by Hellsangel Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:41 pm

These Tamils are crazy!

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Post by southindian Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:53 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:We all thought that Kayar Vizhi is crazy when she writes about the sentiments of Tamils toward LTTE. Looking at how K'nidhi and Jaya are behaving, perhaps, KV isn't all that unrealistic. Just as CONartists do anything for vote-bank politics, DKheads seem to sacrifice national interest for the same. Does the average Tamil support LTTE to the extent that India's national interests are compromised? Are the TN politicians pushing Sri Lanka into Paki and Chinese laps for local votes? Why is the central CONgovt bending foreign policy to suite LTTE's agenda? Recently, a Paki poster on TOI was claiming that India supports cross-border terrorism in Sri Lanka.

Jaya is playing with fire much like the Paki approach towards India. This is going to bite India bad if Sri Lankan Tamils/Indian Tamils in India take her bait.
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Post by Rishi Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:36 pm

The truth of the matter is people from Andhra, TN and Kerala went to Sri Lanka centuries ago. However, their descendants speak only Tamil because the majority of the people who migratd from SI to Sri Lanka spoke Tamil.

All SIs should sympathize with Tamils in SL.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:58 pm

a sri lankan tamil is not the same as the LTTE. i know that's what the LTTE would have liked you to believe when the LTTE was still relevant, but that does not make it true. indian tamils have a natural affection and empathy for the plight of sri lankan tamils. from that standpoint, jayalalitha is probably reading the public sentiment correctly.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:00 pm

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Jaya is playing with fire much like the Paki approach towards India. This is going to bite India bad if Sri Lankan Tamils/Indian Tamils in India take her bait.

there is no bait. it was always this way. indian tamils repudiated the LTTE, but never sri lankan tamil civilians.
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Post by Hellsangel Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:00 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:a sri lankan tamil is not the same as the LTTE. i know that's what the LTTE would have liked you to believe when the LTTE was still relevant, but that does not make it true. indian tamils have a natural affection and empathy for the plight of sri lankan tamils. from that standpoint, jayalalitha is probably reading the public sentiment correctly.

And also for Singapore and Malaysian Tamils?
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:02 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:a sri lankan tamil is not the same as the LTTE. i know that's what the LTTE would have liked you to believe when the LTTE was still relevant, but that does not make it true. indian tamils have a natural affection and empathy for the plight of sri lankan tamils. from that standpoint, jayalalitha is probably reading the public sentiment correctly.

And also for Singapore and Malaysian Tamils?

possibly, but probably because of geographical proximity and historical ties, the plight of sri lankan tamils has always been an emotional matter with indian tamils.
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Post by Idéfix Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:07 pm

What happened to the Sri Lankan Tamils was horrific. If Indians can feel bad about what the Nazis did to European Jews sixty years ago, we should feel much worse about what was done to the Sri Lankan Tamils by a government that is friendly to ours. No democratically elected government should be allowed to get away with war crimes.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:08 pm

many of us who grew up to adulthood in the mid-late eighties in TN will have a few sri lankan tamil friends who came to india as refugees. we know their stories of displacement and we know their courage. we know the friends who came to study with us at IIT and wrecked the grading curve. these are flesh and blood people we would like to stand with, not some abstract political entities.
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:24 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:many of us who grew up to adulthood in the mid-late eighties in TN will have a few sri lankan tamil friends who came to india as refugees. we know their stories of displacement and we know their courage. we know the friends who came to study with us at IIT and wrecked the grading curve. these are flesh and blood people we would like to stand with, not some abstract political entities.

it seems to me that by castigating the sri lankan govt you might be making the situation worse for the lankan tamils since they will start being socially boycotted by the sinhalese. There was understandable collateral damage in the mission to wipe out the LTTE. Excesses took place, but that is true for all wars. LTTE is to blame for bringing misfortune to the lankan tamils.

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Post by Guest Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:25 pm

Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:many of us who grew up to adulthood in the mid-late eighties in TN will have a few sri lankan tamil friends who came to india as refugees. we know their stories of displacement and we know their courage. we know the friends who came to study with us at IIT and wrecked the grading curve. these are flesh and blood people we would like to stand with, not some abstract political entities.

it seems to me that by castigating the sri lankan govt you might be making the situation worse for the lankan tamils since they will start being socially boycotted by the sinhalese. There was understandable collateral damage in the mission to wipe out the LTTE. Excesses took place, but that is true for all wars. LTTE is to blame for bringing misfortune to the lankan tamils.

also, by poking your nose into the internal affairs of sri lanka you are opening the door for others to poke their noses in the internal affairs of India.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:28 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:many of us who grew up to adulthood in the mid-late eighties in TN will have a few sri lankan tamil friends who came to india as refugees. we know their stories of displacement and we know their courage. we know the friends who came to study with us at IIT and wrecked the grading curve. these are flesh and blood people we would like to stand with, not some abstract political entities.

Those SL Tamilians - who had a few reserved seats at IITs - were different. The people who came in as refugees are naturally strong LTTE supporters, and the LTTE had a free run between SE TN and Eaalam.The LTTE cadre had infiltrated vertically collecting "taxes" from Eaalmites everywhere around the globe. Over the years, they have moved inland and extended their influence and "control" over local passive Tamilian population. To an extent, that the local Tamilians view the Eaalmites the way the muslims are viewed with suspecion. The Eaalamites - due to their accent - keep to themselves aggravating their isolation.

The second generation of the Eaalmites will likely blend in better and in another 20 years there will be no difference.

** I met a Dhaadiwala at a car rental place. He looked Desi and he asked me where I was from. Then he said he was from SL Eastet coast Moor. I asked him how and why the Muslims disengaged with the Tamils in the mid 90s. He avoided the question and said Hindus and muslims were close and now that the Sinhalese had beaten Tamilians they are turning against the Moors. He complained that Sinhalese have banned the muslim women wearing Burkha...and I thought of telling him you idiots should have expected that...

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Post by Rishi Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:18 pm

we know the friends who came to study with us at IIT and wrecked the grading curve.

Max,

There is nothing unusual about the SL Tamils doing well at IIT. There are many Tamils in SL who come from families where education is stressed. They do not suffer from the OBC/SC/ST syndrome. Since they are positively discriminated in favor of Sinhalese, the Tamils in SL have to get high marks to get into universities.

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