Survey

by indophile Mon May 20, 2013 2:17 pm

1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
2. If you are a vegetarian go to 11.
3. Did you ever kill the animimal/bird you ate?
4. What weapon did you use to kill your food - knife/ sword/ spear/ gun/ wood/ your hands?
5. Did you skin and clean the innards after you killed your food?
6. Did you ever retrieve an egg from under a hen?
7. Did you ever eat a non-conventional animal? If yes, what animal did you eat?
8. Did you ever catch a fish? Did you scale and clean it?
9 Did you ever fleece a sheep or any other animal (a cat, for example)?
10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.
11. Thank you for participating.

by Nila Mon May 20, 2013 2:23 pm

1, 11. Thanks,

by Maria S Mon May 20, 2013 2:29 pm

1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?

Non-Vegetarian.

3. Did you ever kill the animimal/bird you ate?

No.

4. What weapon did you use to kill your food - knife/ sword/ spear/ gun/ wood/ your hands?

N/A

5. Did you skin and clean the innards after you killed your food?

N/A

6. Did you ever retrieve an egg from under a hen?

No..but, sure did retrieve a lot of eggs, when Ms. Hen walked away.

7. Did you ever eat a non-conventional animal? If yes, what animal did you eat?

Non-conventional depends..non-conventional/exotic to some, may be conventional and vice versa..in any case, too many to post.

8. Did you ever catch a fish?

Yes, plenty of them.

Did you scale and clean it?

No. Not into scaling or cleaning fish.
*But, I can and do clean shrimp/prawns. But never went shrimp fishing.

9 Did you ever fleece a sheep or any other animal (a cat, for example)?

No.

10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.

Too many - on the list.

11. Thank you for participating.

You are welcome.

by indophile Mon May 20, 2013 2:32 pm

Maria S wrote:
10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.

All of the above, except boar.

-- not on the list

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon May 20, 2013 2:33 pm

Maria S wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?

Non-Vegetarian.

You are welcome.

I bet you will be harassed and scared by the ghosts of fish, cattle, goats, chickens, and everything.

Just saying.

by Guest Mon May 20, 2013 2:34 pm

1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian? NON
2. If you are a vegetarian go to 11.
3. Did you ever kill the animimal/bird you ate? No.
4. What weapon did you use to kill your food - knife/ sword/ spear/ gun/ wood/ your hands? NA
5. Did you skin and clean the innards after you killed your food? NA
6. Did you ever retrieve an egg from under a hen? No.
7. Did you ever eat a non-conventional animal? If yes, what animal did you eat? No.
8. Did you ever catch a fish? Did you scale and clean it? No.
9 Did you ever fleece a sheep or any other animal (a cat, for example)? No.
10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow. does seafood count.

11. Thank you for participating. I am leaving with an uneasy feeling, somehow..

by Maria S Mon May 20, 2013 2:37 pm

*Yes, I noticed it now and changed my answer.

Well Mr. U,

Not afraid of ghosts, def. afraid of snakes..not really scared of too many other animals..def. not afraid of humans..harassment- is a total turn off/repulsive..won't call it scared!

by Impedimenta Mon May 20, 2013 2:41 pm

yay, finally i get to be a part of a survey here. Well, 1 Very Happy

by indophile Mon May 20, 2013 2:42 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:
10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow. does seafood count.
>>> Forgot. Seafood does not count. I am looking for stuff like venison (deer), partridge, peacock, snakes, etc.

11. Thank you for participating. I am leaving with an uneasy feeling, somehow..
----- No need to be uneasy. It just shows how far removed we are from actual production of our food. Not an exact comparison - but the German Field Marshall von Molte (under Kaiser) used to be pissed off about modern warfare - people shooting at each other from 100 yards out, instead of actually cutting the enemy with your sword and feeling the warmth of his blood on your skin!

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon May 20, 2013 2:44 pm

Impedimenta wrote:yay, finally i get to be a part of a survey here. Well, 1

Sorry.... you are disqualified....and hence must fill out the complete survey.

Was it shrimp that took away your Vegetarian-virginity?

by Impedimenta Mon May 20, 2013 2:47 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Impedimenta wrote:yay, finally i get to be a part of a survey here. Well, 1

Sorry.... you are disqualified....and hence must fill out the complete survey.

Was it shrimp that took away your Vegetarian-virginity?

shhh...upps, not so loud. LOL @ vegetarian virginity. 38 and still not tried anything exotic. FML.

by Nila Mon May 20, 2013 2:49 pm

I cook chicken for my kids and H and once I ate the mexican prawn starter while I was preg. The picture from the mex restaurant was so tempting and was haunting me for days. I tried it but couldn't eat more than 2 - too much for a temptation.

by indophile Mon May 20, 2013 2:50 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Maria S wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?

Non-Vegetarian.

You are welcome.

I bet you will be harassed and scared by the ghosts of fish, cattle, goats, chickens, and everything.

Just saying.

Naah - their bodies have undergone vaataapi jeernam, and their souls have attained moksham. Smile

by Nila Mon May 20, 2013 2:52 pm

My recent temptation is Magnum choco bar - I want the royal treatment. LOL

by Maria S Mon May 20, 2013 3:06 pm

indophile wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Maria S wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?

Non-Vegetarian.

You are welcome.

I bet you will be harassed and scared by the ghosts of fish, cattle, goats, chickens, and everything.

Just saying.
Naah - their bodies have undergone vaataapi jeernam, and their souls have attained moksham.

It is a remarkable thing..for animals to be part of cycles of nature- have to sacrifice themselves to provide eating pleasure to other living creatures..even after their death. Can't say the same for humans after death, we are no use to anyone..unless we donate our organs. (Well some cadavers are still used to teach Anatomy..and Forensic Sciences..and there are few other exceptions, of course).

Saw a funny post which read "Women don't be virgins when you go to heaven..terrorists may be eagerly waiting for you" Smile

There are so many kinds of mokshas..which we read-are taught about, but, who knows? Would be nice to go a heaven with "real" animals, if such a place exists!

by indophile Mon May 20, 2013 4:07 pm

Impedimenta wrote:

shhh...upps, not so loud. LOL @ vegetarian virginity. 38 and still not tried anything exotic. FML.

I am sure you had some strawberry yogurt. Smile

http://thewashingtonpost.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx

by indophile Mon May 20, 2013 4:09 pm

Go to "Style" section last page (Kidspost). It discusses bugs in our food. It seems some coloring bugs are added to get that nice red color to the strawberry yogurt.

by confuzzled dude Mon May 20, 2013 4:59 pm

indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
2. If you are a vegetarian go to 11.
3. Did you ever kill the animimal/bird you ate?
4. What weapon did you use to kill your food - knife/ sword/ spear/ gun/ wood/ your hands?
5. Did you skin and clean the innards after you killed your food?
6. Did you ever retrieve an egg from under a hen?
7. Did you ever eat a non-conventional animal? If yes, what animal did you eat?
8. Did you ever catch a fish? Did you scale and clean it?
9 Did you ever fleece a sheep or any other animal (a cat, for example)?
10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.
11. Thank you for participating.

Yes for all except 7 & 9, and BTW, the same holds true for, not so saaphisticated, villagers of India; not sure of the intention of the Survey but there is nothing unusual about those Qs.

by Maria S Mon May 20, 2013 5:13 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
2. If you are a vegetarian go to 11.
3. Did you ever kill the animimal/bird you ate?
4. What weapon did you use to kill your food - knife/ sword/ spear/ gun/ wood/ your hands?
5. Did you skin and clean the innards after you killed your food?
6. Did you ever retrieve an egg from under a hen?
7. Did you ever eat a non-conventional animal? If yes, what animal did you eat?
8. Did you ever catch a fish? Did you scale and clean it?
9 Did you ever fleece a sheep or any other animal (a cat, for example)?
10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.
11. Thank you for participating.

Yes for all except 7 & 9, and BTW, the same holds true for, not so saaphisticated, villagers of India; not sure of the intention of the Survey but there is nothing unusual about those Qs.

I wondered about the survey too, since..from what I know, there are not too many non-vegetarians, esp the "hunter and cleaner types" in this forum. And am impressed CD:)

There is a small gender difference in India..at least in most of the families I know..men were primarily the hunters, fishermen-killers. fleecers, cleaners etc. Nowadays- don't think even people in the middle class- villages have these skills. Don't mean to be graphic..but some women have the knack and with experience- do it with precision and quickly like a surgical incision.

by confuzzled dude Tue May 21, 2013 9:44 am

Maria S wrote:

I wondered about the survey too, since..from what I know, there are not too many non-vegetarians, esp the "hunter and cleaner types" in this forum. And am impressed CD:)

There is a small gender difference in India..at least in most of the families I know..men were primarily the hunters, fishermen-killers. fleecers, cleaners etc. Nowadays- don't think even people in the middle class- villages have these skills. Don't mean to be graphic..but some women have the knack and with experience- do it with precision and quickly like a surgical incision.

Maria, As I said there is nothing unusual about these activities at least 25-30 years ago. Yes I've witnessed headless chicken move around. It's not like they do it on a daily basis but enough to call it a norm. Like you mentioned gender difference is minute when it comes to this; women don't usually pluck a chicken but they do cut into small pieces and clean gizzard etc.,

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Tue May 21, 2013 9:53 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Maria S wrote:

I wondered about the survey too, since..from what I know, there are not too many non-vegetarians, esp the "hunter and cleaner types" in this forum. And am impressed CD:)

There is a small gender difference in India..at least in most of the families I know..men were primarily the hunters, fishermen-killers. fleecers, cleaners etc. Nowadays- don't think even people in the middle class- villages have these skills. Don't mean to be graphic..but some women have the knack and with experience- do it with precision and quickly like a surgical incision.

Maria, As I said there is nothing unusual about these activities at least 25-30 years ago. Yes I've witnessed headless chicken move around. It's not like they do it on a daily basis but enough to call it a norm. Like you mentioned gender difference is minute when it comes to this; women don't usually pluck a chicken but they do cut into small pieces and clean gizzard etc.,

confu, i thoroughly enjoyed reading that. you should post more often.

by confuzzled dude Tue May 21, 2013 10:05 am

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Maria S wrote:

I wondered about the survey too, since..from what I know, there are not too many non-vegetarians, esp the "hunter and cleaner types" in this forum. And am impressed CD:)

There is a small gender difference in India..at least in most of the families I know..men were primarily the hunters, fishermen-killers. fleecers, cleaners etc. Nowadays- don't think even people in the middle class- villages have these skills. Don't mean to be graphic..but some women have the knack and with experience- do it with precision and quickly like a surgical incision.

Maria, As I said there is nothing unusual about these activities at least 25-30 years ago. Yes I've witnessed headless chicken move around. It's not like they do it on a daily basis but enough to call it a norm. Like you mentioned gender difference is minute when it comes to this; women don't usually pluck a chicken but they do cut into small pieces and clean gizzard etc.,
confu, i thoroughly enjoyed reading that. you should post more often.

JM, Thanks for the compliment.

by indophile Tue May 21, 2013 11:19 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Yes for all except 7 & 9, and BTW, the same holds true for, not so saaphisticated, villagers of India; not sure of the intention of the Survey but there is nothing unusual about those Qs.

I was curious about how far everyone is removed from the production and preparation of our food. I am thinking of a similar survey for vegetarians too. I was once asked by someone (who did not even grow up in a big city like a Bombay or a Calcutta) if it's a fact that rice came from paddy.

by Guest Tue May 21, 2013 11:58 am

indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?

pescetarian (been 2 months).

2. If you are a vegetarian go to 11.

ok.

3. Did you ever kill the animimal/bird you ate?

had i done this, i would never have touched meat.

4. What weapon did you use to kill your food - knife/ sword/ spear/ gun/ wood/ your hands?

had i done this, i would never have touched meat.

5. Did you skin and clean the innards after you killed your food?

had i done this, i would never have touched meat.

6. Did you ever retrieve an egg from under a hen?

had i done this, i would never have eaten eggs.

7. Did you ever eat a non-conventional animal? If yes, what animal did you eat?

yes. escargots.

8. Did you ever catch a fish? Did you scale and clean it?

had i done this, i would never have touched meat.

9 Did you ever fleece a sheep or any other animal (a cat, for example)?

no.

10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.

octopus, venison, snails, oysters... many more

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Tue May 21, 2013 12:09 pm

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
pescetarian (been 2 months).

answer yes or no: did you receive a sink and a lota as dowry?

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Tue May 21, 2013 12:14 pm

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
pescetarian (been 2 months).
answer yes or no: did you receive a sink and a lota as dowry?

i meant the sink installed on your verandah, whose photograph you proudly displayed to us at chat. ("india shining?"); and the lota you took with you to jamshedpur when you visited tisco.

by Guest Tue May 21, 2013 12:14 pm

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
pescetarian (been 2 months).
answer yes or no: did you receive a sink and a lota as dowry?

answer yes or no. did roshni bhabhi kick you in the teeth?

Survey Kick+in+the+teeth

by Guest Tue May 21, 2013 12:17 pm

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
pescetarian (been 2 months).
answer yes or no: did you receive a sink and a lota as dowry?
i meant the sink installed on your verandah, whose photograph you proudly displayed to us at chat. ("india shining?"); and the lota you took with you to jamshedpur when you visited tisco.

i meant:

answer yes or no. did roshni bhabhi kick you in the teeth?

Survey Kick+in+the+teeth

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Tue May 21, 2013 12:19 pm

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
pescetarian (been 2 months).
answer yes or no: did you receive a sink and a lota as dowry?
answer yes or no. did roshni bhabhi kick you in the teeth?

hahaha @"bhabi"

by Guest Tue May 21, 2013 12:23 pm

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?
pescetarian (been 2 months).
answer yes or no: did you receive a sink and a lota as dowry?
answer yes or no. did roshni bhabhi kick you in the teeth?

hahaha @"bhabi"

grampa, i was only flattering you by referring to roshni aunty as bhabhi. perhaps i should call her sali. that would please you even further.

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Tue May 21, 2013 12:33 pm

[quote="Huzefa Kapasi"]

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
pescetarian (been 2 months).
answer yes or no: did you receive a sink and a lota as dowry?
answer yes or no. did roshni bhabhi kick you in the teeth?
hahaha @"bhabi"
grampa, i was only flattering you by referring to roshni aunty as bhabhi. perhaps i should call her sali. that would please you even further.

boobsy, we are not northindians, and are not flattered by the over-familiarity shown by near-strangers towards us. take it elsewhere.

by Guest Tue May 21, 2013 12:51 pm

[quote="Jeremiah Mburuburu"]

Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Huzefa Kapasi wrote:
Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:answer yes or no: did you receive a sink and a lota as dowry?
answer yes or no. did roshni bhabhi kick you in the teeth?
hahaha @"bhabi"
grampa, i was only flattering you by referring to roshni aunty as bhabhi. perhaps i should call her sali. that would please you even further.
boobsy, we are not northindians, and are not flattered by the over-familiarity shown by near-strangers towards us. take it elsewhere.

roshni aunty ji remains my bhabhi

sd/-
HK beta

by Obnoxious Tue May 21, 2013 12:54 pm

I am a born again vegetarian. So a lil strict. Even when I ate meat, I've not done any of those.

by Guest Tue May 21, 2013 1:20 pm

Appalamma wrote:I am a born again vegetarian. So a lil strict. Even when I ate meat, I've not done any of those.

welcome to the club! i too am a born again vegetarian and i don't regret it. i do regret the animal potions i have eaten in my past. horrible is all i can use to describe it.

by ashaNirasha Wed May 22, 2013 10:45 am

indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?

Selective non-vegetarian.

3. Did you ever kill the animimal/bird you ate?

I haven't done any of these, but my grandfather did. Chicken, for sure.

4. What weapon did you use to kill your food - knife/ sword/ spear/ gun/ wood/ your hands?
5. Did you skin and clean the innards after you killed your food?

My grandmother did, and we used to watch it.

6. Did you ever retrieve an egg from under a hen?

Yes, my grandfather had a chicken farm, and we were sometimes allowed to collect eggs. Which reminds me, every time he came to visit us in the city, he came with one hundred eggs, and big steel can of chicken fry.

7. Did you ever eat a non-conventional animal? If yes, what animal did you eat?
8. Did you ever catch a fish? Did you scale and clean it?

Yes, we had a fish farm too. My grandmother used to clean the fish by rubbing it against a big rock, and then throw a balloon like thing from it at the kids, so the kids would step on it and pop it. I just googled to figure out what that could have been, and looks like it might been a bladder. Eww.

9 Did you ever fleece a sheep or any other animal (a cat, for example)?
10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.

My grandfather's BIL from another village used to shoot flying birds, not sure what kind, and would send it over with a servant. My GF liked "pitta mamsam" but he didn't like shooting or killing those. He also used to get the special treatment when fish was cooked - the head part of the fish was reserved for him.
11. Thank you for participating.

by Guest Wed May 22, 2013 11:13 am

ashaNirasha wrote:
My grandfather's BIL from another village used to shoot flying birds, not sure what kind, and would send it over with a servant.

i've eaten teetars and baters (wild birds). i've shot ducks with, both, gun and air rifle (but not eaten the ducks). i have caught fish (but released them).

i tried eating a fish-head but failed. the rest of the family relishes it. i've eaten whole crabs (fried) -- small soft shell ones.

i could never bring myself to eating paaya.

i like the phrase "selective non-vegetarian." i think that is how i should describe myself for who knows i might dig into a kebab sometime.

by indophile Wed May 22, 2013 12:07 pm

The place I used to work several years ago had a French restaurant downstairs whose menu used to sport exotic fauna - alligators, rattlesnakes, wilderbeast, etc. I never ate any of that stuff but people who did eat a rattlesnake dish said it tasted like chicken.
On the vegetarian side, I've heard a story that the Maharajah of Vizianagaram once lost his way when he was out hunting and happened across an old lady. He was hungry and asked her if she had something to eat. She invited him to her little hut, and gave him a fruit she had (as naivedyam) from a puja she performed earlier and asked him stay over for dinner. The Maharajah obliged, but the lady did not have any vegetables in the house. So she went out and cut some heal tender grass and made a palak-like dish for the king. He had no idea what it was, but it tasted so good and finally asked her what it was. She told him it was just tender grass. Immediately he gifted her an agraharam (village) called "Garikapaadu" (literal translation - a place of grass). Smile

by Idéfix Wed May 22, 2013 12:55 pm

indophile wrote:1. Are you a vegetarian or non-vegetarian?

Not a vegetarian.

indophile wrote:3. Did you ever kill the animimal/bird you ate?

Shot a bird once. Did not like hunting, so haven't gone back.

indophile wrote:4. What weapon did you use to kill your food - knife/ sword/ spear/ gun/ wood/ your hands?

Gun.

indophile wrote:5. Did you skin and clean the innards after you killed your food?

No.

indophile wrote:6. Did you ever retrieve an egg from under a hen?

No.

indophile wrote:7. Did you ever eat a non-conventional animal? If yes, what animal did you eat?

I had frog's legs once. Snails too.

indophile wrote:8. Did you ever catch a fish? Did you scale and clean it?

Yes, yes and yes.

indophile wrote:9 Did you ever fleece a sheep or any other animal (a cat, for example)?

No.

indophile wrote:10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.

Rabbit, duck, quail, deer, frog, fish, crab, oyster, scallop, etc.

by indophile Wed May 22, 2013 1:42 pm

Idéfix wrote:10. List any animal/bird not on this list that you ate -- goat, chicken, lamp/sheep, pig/boar, cow.

Rabbit, duck, quail, deer, frog, fish, crab, oyster, scallop, etc.
[/quote].
I wonder why they consider deer (venison) as a delicacy in India. People here complain that it's flavor is so gamey you need to get used to it. But then they say the same about Argentinian beef. That is because the cattle there grow up eating alfalfa grass whereas here they feed the cattle here with all sorts researched feed and pump all sorts of hormones into them.

by Guest Wed May 22, 2013 1:51 pm

Conclusion: gults are the biggest meat eaters in India, not counting the caste.

by Hellsangel Wed May 22, 2013 1:55 pm

indophile wrote:
I wonder why they consider deer (venison) as a delicacy in India. People here complain that it's flavor is so gamey you need to get used to it. But then they say the same about Argentinian beef. That is because the cattle there grow up eating alfalfa grass whereas here they feed the cattle here with all sorts researched feed and pump all sorts of hormones into them.

Try an organic steak/burger next time. See if you can tell the difference in taste.

by confuzzled dude Wed May 22, 2013 2:00 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:Conclusion: gults are the biggest meat eaters in India, not counting the caste.

Your sample is too big to classify as scientific, can't have more than 2 participants to call it a valid survey.

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