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Post by sambarvada Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:16 am

How would you motivate engineers to come and join government services?

The first factor in motivation is pride in their profession. Today, in India, engineers do not have any pride because they are under bureaucrats. Engineers with 30 years of experience are working under bureaucrats with 12-15 years of service. What pride or satisfaction will they have? Give them a place of honour. I see no reason why an electricity board, which is purely a technical matter, should have an IAS as chairman. Why not an outstanding electrical engineer? Why should only IAS officers head the highway authority? Why not a distinguished highway engineer? In Germany and Japan, it is not bureaucrats, but engineers who control things. I have seen government engineers, particularly in Kerala and Tamil Nadu, with 30-35 years of experience, but there is no motivation because, for everything, he has to take orders from a bureaucrat. This has to change.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:47 am

This is not much different from any corporations in any country. Most are headed by MBAs or lawyers - who might have done a Bachelor degree in Engineering and perhaps a couple of years in the engineering field (only some).

A brilliant technocrat is considered a nerd, and at best will be a CTO - but rarely treated on par with a CFO or sit at the dialy meetings with the CEO.

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Post by charvaka Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:41 pm

sambarvada wrote:How would you motivate engineers to come and join government services?
Pay them well, and hold them accountable for their own performance. Government engineers in India are not held to account for their performance. So they quickly learn that they have "permanent" jobs where it doesn't matter whether they produce any output or not. So they learn not to produce any output.
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Post by Kris Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:02 pm

I don't think it is just the act of taking orders from bureaucrats. Any situation where there is no personal accountability (read, your job is pretty much assured) will likely kill the spirit. Those who are still driven by an inner need to shine face usually face an uphill task.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:40 pm

Well... shouldn't the same apply to the IAS and other Govt. baboons ? So EB or RCI or Govt. admins they all are on life time appointments.

That being said, why should Engineers - who are often better educated than the baboons - be subservient to them? It is not uncommon for a new IAS officer (with some basic degree) to be appointed head of a Govt firm.

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