A suitable PM

by indophile Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:22 am

Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.

by Rishi Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:28 am

Jayalalitha.

Sonia and Rahul don't even come close to what this intelligent lady is capable of.

Jayalalitha is the only leader who is truly pan-indian.

by Guest Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:35 am

Rishi wrote:Jayalalitha.

Sonia and Rahul don't even come close to what this intelligent lady is capable of.

Jayalalitha is the only leader who is truly pan-indian.

What are your thoughts on the AIADMK opening party offices and contesting elections in Uttar Pradesh? After all, Mayawati--who is from UP--has done the same in Tamil Nadu.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:41 am

Rashmun wrote:
Rishi wrote:Jayalalitha.

Sonia and Rahul don't even come close to what this intelligent lady is capable of.

Jayalalitha is the only leader who is truly pan-indian.

What are your thoughts on the AIADMK opening party offices and contesting elections in Uttar Pradesh? After all, Mayawati--who is from UP--has done the same in Tamil Nadu.

Yet another proof that Maywati is stupid and Jayalitha is smart. Jaya is a dreamer but not a daydreamer.

I read an analysis wherein Jaya's aim is to get all of the 39 TN MP seats - if she can - and become a key player. She being Modi ji's pal, she could VERY well be a compromise candidate for the BJP/Modi/NDA for PM.

It is not at all far fetched. By staying within TN, she has not antagonized ANY of the other politicians (no need to), except MT Sonia ji and Prince Rahul. Her reason, from day 1, has been that MT Sonia is a phorener.

Oh, BTW, she speaks hindi.... Razz

(while Maywati can speak only fisherman Hindi).

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:09 pm

My vote is for anyone who will HUNT DOWN corrupt politicians, takes care of security and makes India a proud and developed nation.

by Jebediah Mburuburu Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:21 pm

indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.

"no-nonsense approach," not "no nonsense approach"; here, "no-nonsense" is being used as an adjective.

by Idéfix Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:29 pm

Anyone but Rahul Gandhi and Narendra Modi.

Some alternatives: Nitish Kumar, Jayalalitha, Chidambaram, Sevaji (the only person I know who will make the elimination quotas and reservations his one-point agenda for the country).

by Jebediah Mburuburu Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:55 pm

indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.

neither narendra modi nor jayalalitha. the most qualified person is chidambaram.

by Obnoxious Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:01 pm

My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

by Hellsangel Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:02 pm

Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Maybe India needs a Queen. Wait! Maybe there already is one.

by Idéfix Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:05 pm

Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

I hope he can get elected to Parliament this time.

by indophile Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:19 pm

Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:
indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.
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by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:20 pm

indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.

Your choice # 2 (Jayala.) is not consistent with # (3), as she wants to give new quotas (Govt. money for pilgrimage) to Christian voters (to visit the Vatican).

by Hellsangel Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:24 pm

indophile wrote:
Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:
indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.
"no-nonsense approach," not "no nonsense approach"; here, "no-nonsense" is being used as an adjective.

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http://www.nononsense.com/default.aspx?gclid=CMKil4LPyLgCFcqZ4AodRngANg (No Nonsense leggings)
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by Petrichor Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:27 pm

indophile wrote:
Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:
indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.
"no-nonsense approach," not "no nonsense approach"; here, "no-nonsense" is being used as an adjective.

That may be, but the non-hyphenated version too is used quite commonly in the U.S in modern times. A few examples (Source: Internet)
http://www.amazon.com/No-Nonsense-Shakespeare/lm/R1XGAE8QX96OX (No Nonsense Shakespeare)
http://www.nononsense.com/default.aspx?gclid=CMKil4LPyLgCFcqZ4AodRngANg (No Nonsense leggings)
http://www.nnnlv.org/ (Welcome to No Nonsense Neutering)
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Please note the capitalization

by indophile Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:27 pm

Idéfix wrote:Anyone but Rahul Gandhi and Narendra Modi.

Some alternatives: Nitish Kumar, Jayalalitha, Chidambaram, Sevaji (the only person I know who will make the elimination quotas and reservations his one-point agenda for the country).

I don't know much about Nitish Kumar, but I have doubts about Chidambaram. He may have studied at Harvard and all, but the present PM is a Ph.D from Cambridge too, and he is no good.

by Petrichor Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:28 pm

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-opportunities/ingredients-that-go-into-successful-leadership/article4947022.ece

by indophile Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:30 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.

Your choice # 2 (Jayala.) is not consistent with # (3), as she wants to give new quotas (Govt. money for pilgrimage) to Christian voters (to visit the Vatican).

Elimination of quotas only is my last priority (#3). That should happen anyway with overall good governance.

by indophile Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:33 pm

Petrichor wrote:
indophile wrote:
Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:
indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.
"no-nonsense approach," not "no nonsense approach"; here, "no-nonsense" is being used as an adjective.

That may be, but the non-hyphenated version too is used quite commonly in the U.S in modern times. A few examples (Source: Internet)
http://www.amazon.com/No-Nonsense-Shakespeare/lm/R1XGAE8QX96OX (No Nonsense Shakespeare)
http://www.nononsense.com/default.aspx?gclid=CMKil4LPyLgCFcqZ4AodRngANg (No Nonsense leggings)
http://www.nnnlv.org/ (Welcome to No Nonsense Neutering)
http://www.retailmenot.com/view/nononsense.com (No Nonsense coupons)
http://www.bevnut.com/bodybuilding/ (No Nonsense Magazine)
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/robbers.htm (No Nonsense Self-defence)

Please note the capitalization

Yes, they are titles.

by Petrichor Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:39 pm

I like the idea of dropping hyphens when words are capitalized...conveys the meaning well.

by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:40 pm

indophile wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.

Your choice # 2 (Jayala.) is not consistent with # (3), as she wants to give new quotas (Govt. money for pilgrimage) to Christian voters (to visit the Vatican).

Elimination of quotas only is my last priority (#3). That should happen anyway with overall good governance.

That might happen when the national leader (PM for example) declares openly in the beginning that no more quotas in education and jobs according to caste and no more laws and pilgrimage money from Govt. on the basis of religion.

by Idéfix Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:42 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
indophile wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.

Your choice # 2 (Jayala.) is not consistent with # (3), as she wants to give new quotas (Govt. money for pilgrimage) to Christian voters (to visit the Vatican).

Elimination of quotas only is my last priority (#3). That should happen anyway with overall good governance.

That might happen when the national leader (PM for example) declares openly in the beginning that no more quotas in education and jobs according to caste and no more laws and pilgrimage money from Govt. on the basis of religion.

Sevaji, this is why I nominated you as a candidate for PM. I don't know of any politician who is willing to fight for this issue. Please accept my nomination.

by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:47 pm

Idéfix wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
indophile wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
indophile wrote:Who would be a good next Prime Minister for India? You may name the 3 best in your opinion.

My 3 -- (1) Narendra Modi (no nonsense approach to governing, efficient); (2) Jayalalitha (tough, only leader who appears practical in helping the poor and disadvantaged); and (3) Anyone who would do away with quotas and reservations in education and jobs.

Your choice # 2 (Jayala.) is not consistent with # (3), as she wants to give new quotas (Govt. money for pilgrimage) to Christian voters (to visit the Vatican).

Elimination of quotas only is my last priority (#3). That should happen anyway with overall good governance.

That might happen when the national leader (PM for example) declares openly in the beginning that no more quotas in education and jobs according to caste and no more laws and pilgrimage money from Govt. on the basis of religion.
Sevaji, this is why I nominated you as a candidate for PM. I don't know of any politician who is willing to fight for this issue. Please accept my nomination.

Thanks HA.

by Hellsangel Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:48 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
indophile wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Your choice # 2 (Jayala.) is not consistent with # (3), as she wants to give new quotas (Govt. money for pilgrimage) to Christian voters (to visit the Vatican).

Elimination of quotas only is my last priority (#3). That should happen anyway with overall good governance.

That might happen when the national leader (PM for example) declares openly in the beginning that no more quotas in education and jobs according to caste and no more laws and pilgrimage money from Govt. on the basis of religion.
Sevaji, this is why I nominated you as a candidate for PM. I don't know of any politician who is willing to fight for this issue. Please accept my nomination.
Thanks HA.

Huh?

by indophile Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:50 pm

Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Jayaprakash Narayan (Lok Satta), Arun Shourie, Narayanamurthy of Infosys, the Kharagpur IIT head, and others like them who are capable with their hearts in the right place may make good cabinet members but cannot lead the whole nation, in my opinion.
You need a real tough guy/gal who has the right big picture priorities to lead the country.

by Idéfix Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:54 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
indophile wrote:

Elimination of quotas only is my last priority (#3). That should happen anyway with overall good governance.

That might happen when the national leader (PM for example) declares openly in the beginning that no more quotas in education and jobs according to caste and no more laws and pilgrimage money from Govt. on the basis of religion.
Sevaji, this is why I nominated you as a candidate for PM. I don't know of any politician who is willing to fight for this issue. Please accept my nomination.
Thanks HA.

Huh?

Sevaji is on to my (our) true identity, as he was on old CH.

by Seva Lamberdar Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:42 pm

Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:

That might happen when the national leader (PM for example) declares openly in the beginning that no more quotas in education and jobs according to caste and no more laws and pilgrimage money from Govt. on the basis of religion.
Sevaji, this is why I nominated you as a candidate for PM. I don't know of any politician who is willing to fight for this issue. Please accept my nomination.
Thanks HA.

Huh?
Sevaji is on to my (our) true identity, as he was on old CH.

It surely woke up HA.

by Guest Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:56 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Seva Lamberdar wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
Sevaji, this is why I nominated you as a candidate for PM. I don't know of any politician who is willing to fight for this issue. Please accept my nomination.
Thanks HA.

Huh?
Sevaji is on to my (our) true identity, as he was on old CH.
It surely woke up HA.

Hahaha

by Kayalvizhi Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:52 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
She being Modi ji's pal, she could VERY well be a compromise candidate for the BJP/Modi/NDA for PM.

It is not at all far fetched. By staying within TN, she has not antagonized ANY of the other politicians (no need to), except MT Sonia ji and Prince Rahul. Her reason, from day 1, has been that MT Sonia is a phorener.

Oh, BTW, she speaks hindi.... (while Maywati can speak only fisherman Hindi).

You are clueless.

Jaya can NEVER be Indian PM unless she openly says she accepts Hindi as India;s official language and orders Hindi as compulsory language in TN school. She is not going to do it because AIADMK will not win a single seat for the next 60 years.

by Kayalvizhi Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:58 pm

Idéfix wrote:Anyone but Rahul Gandhi and Narendra Modi.

Some alternatives: Nitish Kumar, Jayalalitha, Chidambaram, Sevaji (the only person I know who will make the elimination quotas and reservations his one-point agenda for the country).

I already explained Jaya has zero chance. Chithamparam could be because he has proven his loyalty to hindians many times.

by SomeProfile Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:03 pm

Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:the most qualified person is chidambaram.

Yes, most qualified to continue the national government's slavery of the Gandhi family, while providing a respectable front to all the corruption and scams happening in the background. Exactly the role MMS played for the past decade. Meanwhile, India's economy will continue a faster spiral down the toilet like it is doing under the eminent guidance of the well-qualified finance minister Chidambaram. And, Chidambaram's wife and son will continue to amass huge quantities of wealth, disproportionate to any known sources of income. Thanks, but no thanks.

by SomeProfile Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:08 pm

Idéfix wrote:Anyone but Rahul Gandhi and Narendra Modi.

Some alternatives: Nitish Kumar, Jayalalitha, Chidambaram, Sevaji (the only person I know who will make the elimination quotas and reservations his one-point agenda for the country).

Nitish Kumar - wasn't he the guy who went to Delhi a few month's ago with begging bowl in hand asking his state to be classified as a backward state so that he could get some alms from the central government? Isn't he the hypocrite who was joined at the hip with BJP for many years, and before he realized that BJP is not secular? Yes, he is the perfect representative for the impatient young Indians who want to assert themselves in the world and make an honest, self-respecting living. Great choice!

by SomeProfile Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:16 pm

Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Seriously, guys... if you owned a company, would you hire a CEO who has not even managed a team? Then, why do you want a person who has not even been a mayor or a minister to become the PM of the country? That too from a party with extremely limited reach even in its own city / state? Please think guys. We are not talking about the leadership of your building administration or local volunteer society. We are talking about governing India here. A country which is more diverse than some of the continents in the world. A country with the largest population in the world. A country with the third largest GDP in the world. A country which needs to secure the future of the largest under-35 population in the world. Please vote sensibly.

by Jebediah Mburuburu Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:34 pm

SomeProfile wrote:
Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Seriously, guys... if you owned a company, would you hire a CEO who has not even managed a team? Then, why do you want a person who has not even been a mayor or a minister to become the PM of the country? That too from a party with extremely limited reach even in its own city / state? Please think guys. We are not talking about the leadership of your building administration or local volunteer society. We are talking about governing India here. A country which is more diverse than some of the continents in the world. A country with the largest population in the world. A country with the third largest GDP in the world. A country which needs to secure the future of the largest under-35 population in the world. Please vote sensibly.

is narenbhai the source of your statistics?

by SomeProfile Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:44 pm

Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:
Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Seriously, guys... if you owned a company, would you hire a CEO who has not even managed a team? Then, why do you want a person who has not even been a mayor or a minister to become the PM of the country? That too from a party with extremely limited reach even in its own city / state? Please think guys. We are not talking about the leadership of your building administration or local volunteer society. We are talking about governing India here. A country which is more diverse than some of the continents in the world. A country with the largest population in the world. A country with the third largest GDP in the world. A country which needs to secure the future of the largest under-35 population in the world. Please vote sensibly.
is narenbhai the source of your statistics?

It was my mistake regarding the population. Meant to write "second largest population in the world" population. Third largest GDP - looked it up on Wikipedia.

Nevertheless the original point I was making stands.

by Jebediah Mburuburu Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:31 am

SomeProfile wrote:
Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:
Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Seriously, guys... if you owned a company, would you hire a CEO who has not even managed a team? Then, why do you want a person who has not even been a mayor or a minister to become the PM of the country? That too from a party with extremely limited reach even in its own city / state? Please think guys. We are not talking about the leadership of your building administration or local volunteer society. We are talking about governing India here. A country which is more diverse than some of the continents in the world. A country with the largest population in the world. A country with the third largest GDP in the world. A country which needs to secure the future of the largest under-35 population in the world. Please vote sensibly.
is narenbhai the source of your statistics?

It was my mistake regarding the population. Meant to write "second largest population in the world" population. Third largest GDP - looked it up on Wikipedia.

Nevertheless the original point I was making stands.

the original point stands regardless of the ranks? why then did you mention those ranks? you don't make sense.

by Merlot Daruwala Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:09 am

Idéfix wrote:Anyone but Rahul Gandhi and Narendra Modi.

Some alternatives: Nitish Kumar, Jayalalitha, Chidambaram, Sevaji (the only person I know who will make the elimination quotas and reservations his one-point agenda for the country).

I'd throw Arun Jaitley also in the mix. It's a pity neither Chidambaram and Jaitley wouldn't win any election, but if MM Singh could last two terms, why not either of these two? Amongst pols with a mass base, I guess there's only a Nitish Kumar who is not sullied in any way so far.

I wouldn't want Dr JJ though. She's corrupt as sin and highly intolerant of any criticism.

by SomeProfile Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:16 am

Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:
Jebediah Mburuburu wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:
Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Seriously, guys... if you owned a company, would you hire a CEO who has not even managed a team? Then, why do you want a person who has not even been a mayor or a minister to become the PM of the country? That too from a party with extremely limited reach even in its own city / state? Please think guys. We are not talking about the leadership of your building administration or local volunteer society. We are talking about governing India here. A country which is more diverse than some of the continents in the world. A country with the largest population in the world. A country with the third largest GDP in the world. A country which needs to secure the future of the largest under-35 population in the world. Please vote sensibly.
is narenbhai the source of your statistics?

It was my mistake regarding the population. Meant to write "second largest population in the world" population. Third largest GDP - looked it up on Wikipedia.

Nevertheless the original point I was making stands.
the original point stands regardless of the ranks? why then did you mention those ranks? you don't make sense.

The original point stands regardless of whether India's population rank is no. 1 or no. 2 in the world. In many Mathematical calculations, there is an assumption: for sufficiently large values of 'n', if the theorem holds true for 'n', it also holds true for 'n+1'. In this case, we are talking about how JPN does not have the required experience for managing the complexity of governing a nation with a large population. In this context, whether the population we are talking about is 1.24 billion (of India) or 1.34 billion (of China), the point remains that it is too large for JPN.

Did you understand? If not, let me give another example which may make more sense to you. Suppose we are discussing who are the biggest anal whiners on Internet forums. By some complex scientific calculations based on all content posted on Internet forums, someone comes up with a pretty reliable ranking of anal whiners on Internet forums. DUTturajulu comes excited to this forum and posts that you hold the rank of no. 1 anal whiner on the Internet forums. You get all riled up and respond with your typical whining post to correct him and say that, no, you are not the no. 1 ranked anal whiner, that position belongs to Rashmunni, and you are only the no. 2 ranked anal whiner. Well, guess what... for the purposes of our discussion about the biggest anal whiners on the Internet forums, it doesn't matter whether you are ranked no. 1 or no. 2. The fact remains that you are pretty big anal whiner, right up there near the top of the world rankings. I hope that explanation helped.

Regards.

by Idéfix Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:17 am

Yes, Jaitley would be a good man for the office, but his party won't put him up. Chidambaram will likely have the same problem. If it is a Gandhi vs. Modi election, I hope Nitish Kumar can lead a third front and cobble together a majority.

by SomeProfile Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:20 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:It's a pity neither Chidambaram and Jaitley wouldn't win any election, but if MM Singh could last two terms, why not either of these two?

Oh yes, why not weaken Indian democracy further by appointing leaders who have no support of the public? Excellent idea!

Merlot Daruwala wrote:I guess there's only a Nitish Kumar who is not sullied in any way so far.

Yep, the guy who spent years joined at the hip with the communal and fascist BJP, and who was aligned for many years before that with one honorable gentleman named Laloo Prasad Yadav, and who took many long years to realize that BJP is - ZOMG! - communal, is not sullied in any way so far. After all, he is Jebus who walks on sewage water without getting his feet wet. Excellent recommendation!

by SomeProfile Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:26 am

Idéfix wrote:Yes, Jaitley would be a good man for the office, but his party won't put him up. Chidambaram will likely have the same problem. If it is a Gandhi vs. Modi election, I hope Nitish Kumar can lead a third front and cobble together a majority.

I hope so too! After all, India has had great success providing lasting, stable governance under cobbled together third front governments. It's exactly what we need considering the pathetic state of our current economy. Hopefully, Nitish Kumar will be successful in going before Western governments and world bank, begging for India to be classified as a backward country and get us some alms which will bail us out of our current situation. After all, he has had practice doing this for Bihar not too long ago. Also, NiKu will ensure those alms will be well utilized to pull us out our doldrums, exactly as he has done in Bihar. All this will have the positive effect of inspiring and ensuring the future of hundreds of millions of young Indians who are restless to make a better life for themselves. Awesome idea!

by Idéfix Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:28 am

SomeProfile wrote:
Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Seriously, guys... if you owned a company, would you hire a CEO who has not even managed a team? Then, why do you want a person who has not even been a mayor or a minister to become the PM of the country? That too from a party with extremely limited reach even in its own city / state? Please think guys. We are not talking about the leadership of your building administration or local volunteer society. We are talking about governing India here. A country which is more diverse than some of the continents in the world. A country with the largest population in the world. A country with the third largest GDP in the world. A country which needs to secure the future of the largest under-35 population in the world. Please vote sensibly.

The problem with JP is not that he has not managed a team. He is a seasoned administrator and served as an IAS officer for many years. His problem is lack of political support beyond the small urban middle class. Unlike MMS or Chidambaram, he is not known for kowtowing to those with broad popular support, either. So he is unlikely to ever hold high political office.

by Idéfix Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:33 am

SomeProfile wrote:
Idéfix wrote:Yes, Jaitley would be a good man for the office, but his party won't put him up. Chidambaram will likely have the same problem. If it is a Gandhi vs. Modi election, I hope Nitish Kumar can lead a third front and cobble together a majority.

I hope so too! After all, India has had great success providing lasting, stable governance under cobbled together third front governments. It's exactly what we need considering the pathetic state of our current economy. Hopefully, Nitish Kumar will be successful in going before Western governments and world bank, begging for India to be classified as a backward country and get us some alms which will bail us out of our current situation. After all, he has had practice doing this for Bihar not too long ago. Also, NiKu will ensure those alms will be well utilized to pull us out our doldrums, exactly as he has done in Bihar. All this will have the positive effect of inspiring and ensuring the future of hundreds of millions of young Indians who are restless to make a better life for themselves. Awesome idea!

The only stable governments we have had in the last twenty years are coalition governments. Neither Congress nor BJP can hope to win a majority on its own in this election. As for all that drama about begging and such, the man represented his state well in New Delhi. I see him as similar to Chandrababu Naidu in AP -- not too ideological, centrist, pragmatic, willing to make alliances when needed, and focused on development.

by SomeProfile Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:43 am

Idéfix wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:
Appalamma wrote:My candidate would be Jayaprakash Narayana of Lok Satta.

Seriously, guys... if you owned a company, would you hire a CEO who has not even managed a team? Then, why do you want a person who has not even been a mayor or a minister to become the PM of the country? That too from a party with extremely limited reach even in its own city / state? Please think guys. We are not talking about the leadership of your building administration or local volunteer society. We are talking about governing India here. A country which is more diverse than some of the continents in the world. A country with the largest population in the world. A country with the third largest GDP in the world. A country which needs to secure the future of the largest under-35 population in the world. Please vote sensibly.
The problem with JP is not that he has not managed a team. He is a seasoned administrator and served as an IAS officer for many years. His problem is lack of political support beyond the small urban middle class. Unlike MMS or Chidambaram, he is not known for kowtowing to those with broad popular support, either. So he is unlikely to ever hold high political office.

I never said that he has not managed a team. I was making an analogy as follows: CEO : team manager :: PM : mayor/minister.

Apparently, too many people don't pay attention when 'figures of speech' are taught in school.

by SomeProfile Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:58 am

Idéfix wrote:The only stable governments we have had in the last twenty years are coalition governments.

Albeit led by major parties which had enough of a comfortable majority that no other leader or party in the coalition could be the tail wagging the dog. There is no way any leader or party in a third front coalition will clobber together sufficient majority to keep other leaders/parties from behaving like monkeys. The result is that, India will descend into a banana republic for the next few years, and then the country will vote Modi in with a thumping majority. This has happened before. We spent many years in the 1990s losing the momentum of the economic liberalization while the third front monkeys fucked the country every which way. Finally, we got a stable 5-year government under the BJP-led coalition, which incidentally created a lot more jobs in those 5 years than the current UPA did in 10 years. We cannot afford to waste few more years and opportunities experimenting with a third-front banana republic once again. Better for us to learn from that bitter history than repeating it again. BTW, that period of painful third-front unstability was started by V P Singh who, at that time, looked as good as NiKu looks to you today.

Idéfix wrote:As for all that drama about begging and such, the man represented his state well in New Delhi. I see him as similar to Chandrababu Naidu in AP -- not too ideological, centrist, pragmatic, willing to make alliances when needed, and focused on development.

NiKu is a second-rate candidate who will just provide same old, business as usual Indian style inefficient governance. Screw that! We have the choice of a leader who won't reduce us to begging, who is far more popular and effective than NiKu, a leader with a 10-year track record of great, inclusive governance. The country doesn't want to settle for some second rate candidate just because a few whiners can't get off the 2002 whaambulance, despite the facts of what really happened then.

by yogi Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:18 am

I support His majesty Rahul gandhi as the next PM of India. Look at his track record. I bet no one will even come close to him.

A suitable PM Cf2w2ZO

His attendance is 43%. asked ZERO questions and participated in ONE debate.

by Captain Bhankas Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:27 am

anyone who is not a double unkil of freaking 70 years of age.

by Idéfix Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:29 am

yogi wrote:I support His majesty Rahul gandhi as the next PM of India. Look at his track record. I bet no one will even come close to him.

His attendance is 43%. asked ZERO questions and participated in ONE debate.

Haha! The man is a superhero; he knows all the answers already, so he doesn't have any questions. I wonder what compelling topic it was that he deigned to join the ordinary MPs in a floor debate.

by Idéfix Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:30 am

Captain Bhankas wrote:anyone who is not a double unkil of freaking 70 years of age.

Hey, Loh Purush Advaniji may still be able to pump some iron!

by Captain Bhankas Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:34 am

Idéfix wrote:
Captain Bhankas wrote:anyone who is not a double unkil of freaking 70 years of age.
Hey, Loh Purush Advaniji may still be able to pump some iron!

my worst fear when it comes to indian politics. nothing against him but clearly his time is up.

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