capital of residual andhra pradesh

by truthbetold Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:56 pm

In one of the news items i thought i read an expert comm will identify a new capital in 45 days after.state formation. did i get this right or is it just my imagination? that is a very short time and a very quick one.
May be the central govt wants to get people involved in capital search and forget about united ap.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:03 pm

That is right - 45 days. I suppose, 45 days after the bill is passed. If the bill is presented in the budget session, then, it may even be after the new govt. takes over. Looks like Shinde said that the capital will be built with central funds.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:48 pm

Capital?

How about Chilakaluripeta area (Guntur district)? It is not that far from Seema. The agricultural land is not very fertile (they grow cotton and some farmers commit suicide) and it won't cost too much to buy land. It is on NHway #5 and close to Kotappa Konda (has a famous Shiva temple - Dakshinamoorthy - installed by Adi Shankara). Water could be a problem.

How about Macherla (in Guntur dist. and close to Nagarjuna Sagar) to revive Palnadu pride? The people are hardy (if KCR goes there, they will give some hooch and beat him up for uttering "Andhrawalon bhaago"). No water problem.

Ongle? Why not?

Vijayawada-Guntur-Tenali triangle (land is very expensive)

My personal preference is Rajamahendravaram with all its history, culture, proximity to water and transportation, etc. It is, however, not close to Seema and land is expensive.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:59 pm

Ongole will be better as it is closer to the Rayalans (or is it Seemans?)

Andhrans and Tamilans can develop the Madras-Ongole corridor into a high tech area like SF-LA; NYC-BOS.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:17 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Ongole will be better as it is closer to the Rayalans (or is it Seemans?)

Andhrans and Tamilans can develop the Madras-Ongole corridor into a high tech area like SF-LA; NYC-BOS.

Great idea. The govt. already owns a lot of land in Ongole area and can save a lot of money.

by indophile Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:22 am

Ongole will be fine if they can find water to supply the new capital, and somehow make the buildings and other things cyclone-proof.
Chilakaluripeta is fine too; it has Dakshinamurthy Swamy for the religiously inclined, and other attractions for those who are so driven. If Macherla, why not the nearby Amaravati (the ancient capital of the Satavahana empire) with mountains all around and the Krishna river flowing by the town. The capital decision based on Telugu culture and pride should occur first, the roads and other infrastructure can come later. That Vizag has an airport or Ongole has free govt. land, and some other town has a National Highway nearby should not be the driving forces. This is especially so if the Central govt is footing the bill to wash their sins.

by truthbetold Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:17 am

Capital anywhere from nellore to rajmandry is ok due to their central location.
Visakhapatnam is another great choice. kurnool is somewhat remote without the benefits of vishakapatna's benefits.
amaravati is a great choice for historical reasons.
ongole would be a good compromise between r and coastal areas .

capital would develop if it is in vijayawada or Visakhapatnam. andhra should pursue distributed growth so that land costs are reasonable and people feel part of the development. focused development in a city to attract investment is an old model.
Agricultural industry driven coastal area with strong educational base should be the model.

by Vakavaka Pakapaka Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:20 am

indophile wrote:Ongole will be fine if they can find water to supply the new capital, and somehow make the buildings and other things cyclone-proof.
Chilakaluripeta is fine too; it has Dakshinamurthy Swamy for the religiously inclined, and other attractions for those who are so driven. If Macherla, why not the nearby Amaravati (the ancient capital of the Satavahana empire) with mountains all around and the Krishna river flowing by the town. The capital decision based on Telugu culture and pride should occur first, the roads and other infrastructure can come later. That Vizag has an airport or Ongole has free govt. land, and some other town has a National Highway nearby should not be the driving forces. This is especially so if the Central govt is footing the bill to wash their sins.

Amaravati is also a great idea. It is time that AP forgets about Telangana and celebrates its culture, heroes and contributions - Andhra Ikshvaku, Satavahana, Chalukya, Krishnadevaraya, Rajaraja Narendra, Brahmayya Naidu, Tandra Paparayudu, Gurajada, Nannaya, Tirupati Venkata Kavulu, Srinadhudu, KL Rao, Prakasam, scientists in different fields, those who started IT and Pharma industries, Yellapragada Subba Rao, Anji Reddy, Pratap Reddy, NTR, ANR, Savitri, Gummadi, SVR, etc., etc., ...........

by Obnoxious Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:28 am

truthbetold wrote:Capital anywhere from nellore to rajmandry is ok due to their central location.
Visakhapatnam is another great choice. kurnool is somewhat remote without the benefits of vishakapatna's benefits.
amaravati is a great choice for historical reasons.
ongole would be a good compromise between r and coastal areas .

capital would develop if it is in vijayawada or Visakhapatnam. andhra should pursue distributed growth so that land costs are reasonable and people feel part of the development. focused development in a city to attract investment is an old model.
Agricultural industry driven coastal area with strong educational base should be the model.

People in visakhapatnam dont want it to be a capital.

by Obnoxious Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:29 am

indophile wrote:Ongole will be fine if they can find water to supply the new capital, and somehow make the buildings and other things cyclone-proof.
Chilakaluripeta is fine too; it has Dakshinamurthy Swamy for the religiously inclined, and other attractions for those who are so driven. If Macherla, why not the nearby Amaravati (the ancient capital of the Satavahana empire) with mountains all around and the Krishna river flowing by the town. The capital decision based on Telugu culture and pride should occur first, the roads and other infrastructure can come later. That Vizag has an airport or Ongole has free govt. land, and some other town has a National Highway nearby should not be the driving forces. This is especially so if the Central govt is footing the bill to wash their sins.

On a totally different have read "Amaravathi kadhalu"?

by indophile Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:46 pm

Obnoxious wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Capital anywhere from nellore to rajmandry is ok due to their central location.
Visakhapatnam is another great choice. kurnool is somewhat remote without the benefits of vishakapatna's benefits.
amaravati is a great choice for historical reasons.
ongole would be a good compromise between r and coastal areas .

capital would develop if it is in vijayawada or Visakhapatnam. andhra should pursue distributed growth so that land costs are reasonable and people feel part of the development. focused development in a city to attract investment is an old model.
Agricultural industry driven coastal area with strong educational base should be the model.
People in visakhapatnam dont want it to be a capital.

People close to but ouside of Visakhapatnam (like me) don't want Vizag to be capital either. Banks, Industry, educational institutions, cultural activity, and other development is okay, but not the movie industry, land kabjas, crime, etc., that upset the life of locals.

by truthbetold Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:58 pm

Viag's biggest attraction is its beautiful surroundings. Movie industry is a natural to viag. add all the old literary Brahmin families. you got a treasure trove of writers and few actors.
i like it for the never ending possibility of beaches and close vicinity of forest area.
if vizag was located in bander the issue would have been clinched by now.

with or without capital vizag will see all the good and bad of major cities.

by indophile Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:52 pm

truthbetold wrote:Viag's biggest attraction is its beautiful surroundings.

That's the biggest positive and negative for Vizag. Positive because it's a nice plave to live or visit, negative because, our people (I mean all of India), do not know how to appreciate, preserve and manage resources.
I see it with my own eyes when I visit my hometown in Orissa every few years. All the thick forests around the down full of wild animals are denuded now (to export timber), the place is full of autorikshaws spewing blue-black smoke from their sputtering behinds, Maharaja's palace is gutted by the so called income-tax sleuths and the place is like ruins now (We had an excellent statue of the Maharajah standing in a regal pose with a long sword in his right hand, and now it's Maharajah still holding that pose sans sword), Maharani's palace is now State Bank of India; Diwan palace is a Girls School run by some denomination of Christians; two big mountains of black marble are no more in the view (dug up by several people who freelanced in marble trade), not a single tiger left in the forests and mountains around, only a few leopards here and there (when the govt introduced some tigers to bring them back to the area, they were killed too), and on and on and on.

by truthbetold Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:05 pm

I completely understand indo's concerns. but hiding from development is not an answer. responsible growth is the way but india has not discovered that yet. vizag cannot escape growth. in fact it will lead growth in the residual ap whether it is the capital or not. it is most likely be the movie capital. wait till ramoji builds a seaworld .

by indophile Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:14 pm

We can only hope that movie people will be kept away from Vizag. They would really mess up the place. At least in places like Madras and Bombay they are a little stricter in enforcing rules - that's why many Hindi and Tamil movies are being shot in Hyderabad and Vizag these days. In AP (I think we should get used to the SA term now) it's all money, with absolutely no regard for other important things.

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