why girls lose interest in math earlier

Tracy Whitney wrote:didn't read the link... well you are lucky you got your girls interested in math. mine is a lost cause. she won't be taking calculus in high school, and to be honest, I am mighty glad. Can't have her go through with more torture.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:didn't read the link... well you are lucky you got your girls interested in math. mine is a lost cause. she won't be taking calculus in high school, and to be honest, I am mighty glad. Can't have her go through with more torture.

i have struggled hard, but happy with the outcome. it has taken an enormous amount of work and energy on my part. but after a point it becomes easy as natural curiosity and the taste for getting the right answer takes over.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:didn't read the link... well you are lucky you got your girls interested in math. mine is a lost cause. she won't be taking calculus in high school, and to be honest, I am mighty glad. Can't have her go through with more torture.

i have struggled hard, but happy with the outcome. it has taken an enormous amount of work and energy on my part. but after a point it becomes easy as natural curiosity and the taste for getting the right answer takes over.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote: from what I have noticed, girls are prone to rote-learning and doing what they are told - irrespective of what research says.
 

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote: from what I have noticed, girls are prone to rote-learning and doing what they are told - irrespective of what research says.
 

my younger daughter is the quintessential example of what he says. she refuses all rote learning, and rejects algorithmic approaches to learning math. if i don't explain the why of something i don't have a prayer of keeping her interest.

Tracy Whitney wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:didn't read the link... well you are lucky you got your girls interested in math. mine is a lost cause. she won't be taking calculus in high school, and to be honest, I am mighty glad. Can't have her go through with more torture.

i have struggled hard, but happy with the outcome. it has taken an enormous amount of work and energy on my part. but after a point it becomes easy as natural curiosity and the taste for getting the right answer takes over.

she's just not a math person. she loves science/bio/etc, but math is not her thing. She's exactly like my sis. they can do it if they have too, but zero interest.

Kris wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:didn't read the link... well you are lucky you got your girls interested in math. mine is a lost cause. she won't be taking calculus in high school, and to be honest, I am mighty glad. Can't have her go through with more torture.

i have struggled hard, but happy with the outcome. it has taken an enormous amount of work and energy on my part. but after a point it becomes easy as natural curiosity and the taste for getting the right answer takes over.

she's just not a math person. she loves science/bio/etc, but math is not her thing. She's exactly like my sis. they can do it if they have too, but zero interest.

>>>My kids fall in this category. The sad thing is both have an aptitude for it, but are just lazy to work through problems The older guy has the American phobia with word problems (translation: does not read them). I had to force him to sit with me with the practice tests when he was preparing for the SAT.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:didn't read the link... well you are lucky you got your girls interested in math. mine is a lost cause. she won't be taking calculus in high school, and to be honest, I am mighty glad. Can't have her go through with more torture.

i have struggled hard, but happy with the outcome. it has taken an enormous amount of work and energy on my part. but after a point it becomes easy as natural curiosity and the taste for getting the right answer takes over.

she's just not a math person. she loves science/bio/etc, but math is not her thing. She's exactly like my sis. they can do it if they have too, but zero interest.

>>>My kids fall in this category. The sad thing is both have an aptitude for it, but are just lazy to work through problems The older guy has the American phobia with word problems (translation: does not read them). I had to force him to sit with me with the practice tests when he was preparing for the SAT.

and he does! I'm impressed Kris.

Kris wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

i have struggled hard, but happy with the outcome. it has taken an enormous amount of work and energy on my part. but after a point it becomes easy as natural curiosity and the taste for getting the right answer takes over.

she's just not a math person. she loves science/bio/etc, but math is not her thing. She's exactly like my sis. they can do it if they have too, but zero interest.

>>>My kids fall in this category. The sad thing is both have an aptitude for it, but are just lazy to work through problems The older guy has the American phobia with word problems (translation: does not read them). I had to force him to sit with me with the practice tests when he was preparing for the SAT.

and he does! I'm impressed Kris.

>>>Well, there was a lot of team building activity as well as bribing. I think dads in India have it easier ( or did anyway, when I was that age)

confuzzled dude wrote:
yup, they seldom worried about their sons grades; I guess they attained nirvana much earlier in their lives.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:bw had posted this some time ago. i finally got around to reading it in detail. very interesting read and useful for parents of teenagers who are getting ready for the AP phase of their school careers:

http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0512158

this guy is a very deep thinker about science education in high schools and freshman year in college. he is also a very nice guy.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:bw had posted this some time ago. i finally got around to reading it in detail. very interesting read and useful for parents of teenagers who are getting ready for the AP phase of their school careers:

http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0512158

this guy is a very deep thinker about science education in high schools and freshman year in college. he is also a very nice guy.

for a minute I will set aside all these studies and research.... needless to say, this is a very complex problem involving the right student, right teacher, right parent, and right environment. Variables are endless.

Since you are a learned person, solve all complex problems in a simple manner. Notice which subject the kid "reaches out" on a daily basis....Ask why not the other subject...If it is bcz of teacher or solvable issue try to rectify that. If there is no concrete reason, encourage the kid in the subjects that are of "natural" interest. Sometimes, the kid hits the right combo and surprises you by showing interest in the very topic you liked and the kid hated at sometime in the past.

Bottomline, girls should be educated and parents should ensure they can stand on their own confidently and comfortably.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:bw had posted this some time ago. i finally got around to reading it in detail. very interesting read and useful for parents of teenagers who are getting ready for the AP phase of their school careers:

http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0512158

this guy is a very deep thinker about science education in high schools and freshman year in college. he is also a very nice guy.

for a minute I will set aside all these studies and research.... needless to say, this is a very complex problem involving the right student, right teacher, right parent, and right environment. Variables are endless.

Since you are a learned person, solve all complex problems in a simple manner. Notice which subject the kid "reaches out" on a daily basis....Ask why not the other subject...If it is bcz of teacher or solvable issue try to rectify that. If there is no concrete reason, encourage the kid in the subjects that are of "natural" interest. Sometimes, the kid hits the right combo and surprises you by showing interest in the very topic you liked and the kid hated at sometime in the past.

Bottomline, girls should be educated and parents should ensure they can stand on their own confidently and comfortably.

can you quit the bromides for ten minutes and invest it in glancing through the article?

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:bw had posted this some time ago. i finally got around to reading it in detail. very interesting read and useful for parents of teenagers who are getting ready for the AP phase of their school careers:

http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0512158

this guy is a very deep thinker about science education in high schools and freshman year in college. he is also a very nice guy.

for a minute I will set aside all these studies and research.... needless to say, this is a very complex problem involving the right student, right teacher, right parent, and right environment. Variables are endless.

Since you are a learned person, solve all complex problems in a simple manner. Notice which subject the kid "reaches out" on a daily basis....Ask why not the other subject...If it is bcz of teacher or solvable issue try to rectify that. If there is no concrete reason, encourage the kid in the subjects that are of "natural" interest. Sometimes, the kid hits the right combo and surprises you by showing interest in the very topic you liked and the kid hated at sometime in the past.

Bottomline, girls should be educated and parents should ensure they can stand on their own confidently and comfortably.

bw wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:bw had posted this some time ago. i finally got around to reading it in detail. very interesting read and useful for parents of teenagers who are getting ready for the AP phase of their school careers:

http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0512158

this guy is a very deep thinker about science education in high schools and freshman year in college. he is also a very nice guy.

for a minute I will set aside all these studies and research.... needless to say, this is a very complex problem involving the right student, right teacher, right parent, and right environment. Variables are endless.

Since you are a learned person, solve all complex problems in a simple manner. Notice which subject the kid "reaches out" on a daily basis....Ask why not the other subject...If it is bcz of teacher or solvable issue try to rectify that. If there is no concrete reason, encourage the kid in the subjects that are of "natural" interest. Sometimes, the kid hits the right combo and surprises you by showing interest in the very topic you liked and the kid hated at sometime in the past.

Bottomline, girls should be educated and parents should ensure they can stand on their own confidently and comfortably.

err..what century are you in, saamiyar?

bw wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:bw had posted this some time ago. i finally got around to reading it in detail. very interesting read and useful for parents of teenagers who are getting ready for the AP phase of their school careers:

http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0512158

this guy is a very deep thinker about science education in high schools and freshman year in college. he is also a very nice guy.

for a minute I will set aside all these studies and research.... needless to say, this is a very complex problem involving the right student, right teacher, right parent, and right environment. Variables are endless.

Since you are a learned person, solve all complex problems in a simple manner. Notice which subject the kid "reaches out" on a daily basis....Ask why not the other subject...If it is bcz of teacher or solvable issue try to rectify that. If there is no concrete reason, encourage the kid in the subjects that are of "natural" interest. Sometimes, the kid hits the right combo and surprises you by showing interest in the very topic you liked and the kid hated at sometime in the past.

Bottomline, girls should be educated and parents should ensure they can stand on their own confidently and comfortably.

err..what century are you in, saamiyar?