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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:49 pm

"The crisis surrounding the case of the Indian consular official whose arrest last month sent U.S.-India relations into a tailspin was at least temporarily cooled late Monday when the diplomat agreed to waive a Jan. 13 deadline to indict her.

Although several people close to the case would not cite any specific steps toward resolution, the postponement could ease pressure on the State Department, which has been at odds with federal prosecutors over the wisdom of the arrest and how it was conducted. Only the defense can waive the right to be indicted within 30 days from the date of arrest.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/devyani-khobragade-agrees-to-waive-indictment-deadline/2014/01/06/419effe6-770a-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html

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Post by confuzzled dude Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:20 pm

Devyani Khobragade: The Person Behind the Headlines

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Post by Hellsangel Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:04 pm

Preet Bharara does not agree to waive the deadline. So sad!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/visa-fraud-case-of-devyani-khobragade-roils-us-india-relations-sparks-new-legal-dispute/2014/01/07/ba3490b6-77cc-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html wrote:In a response filed later Monday, U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara appeared to reject that offer, saying that plea discussions “are simply not at a stage that merits” any delay in the schedule. “We have participated in hours of discussion in the hope of negotiating a plea that could be entered in Court before January 13,” he wrote. “Indeed, as recently as Saturday, January 5, the Government outlined reasonable parameters for a plea that could resolve the case, to which the defendant has not responded.”
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Post by confuzzled dude Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:54 pm

Hellsangel wrote:Preet Bharara does not agree to waive the deadline. So sad!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/visa-fraud-case-of-devyani-khobragade-roils-us-india-relations-sparks-new-legal-dispute/2014/01/07/ba3490b6-77cc-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html wrote:In a response filed later Monday, U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara appeared to reject that offer, saying that plea discussions “are simply not at a stage that merits” any delay in the schedule. “We have participated in hours of discussion in the hope of negotiating a plea that could be entered in Court before January 13,” he wrote. “Indeed, as recently as Saturday, January 5, the Government outlined reasonable parameters for a plea that could resolve the case, to which the defendant has not responded.”
He is either being a big drama queen or playing a dangerous game by putting American diplomats in India in jeopardy. My hunch is he ultimately is going to cave in, just putting a brave face on.

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Post by indophile Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:39 am

Washington Post coverage on Khobargade.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/visa-fraud-case-of-devyani-khobragade-roils-us-india-relations-sparks-new-legal-dispute/2014/01/07/ba3490b6-77cc-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/india-moves-to-end-expat-privileges-at-us-club-sign-of-anger-at-diplomats-arrest-in-ny/2014/01/08/761554d6-7850-11e3-a647-a19deaf575b3_story.html?hpid=z3

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/us-indian-cultural-political-divide-revealed-by-diplomats-arrest/2014/01/07/121c701a-77c2-11e3-b1c5-739e63e9c9a7_story.html?hpid=z3

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Post by confuzzled dude Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:00 pm

indophile wrote:Washington Post coverage on Khobargade.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/visa-fraud-case-of-devyani-khobragade-roils-us-india-relations-sparks-new-legal-dispute/2014/01/07/ba3490b6-77cc-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/india-moves-to-end-expat-privileges-at-us-club-sign-of-anger-at-diplomats-arrest-in-ny/2014/01/08/761554d6-7850-11e3-a647-a19deaf575b3_story.html?hpid=z3

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/us-indian-cultural-political-divide-revealed-by-diplomats-arrest/2014/01/07/121c701a-77c2-11e3-b1c5-739e63e9c9a7_story.html?hpid=z3

Indian Govt. should stop pussyfooting, grow a pair and lock up that gay couple and have an  interpol notice served to ShareKhan for interfering & whisking away accused family from ongoing legal proceedings then this issue will be miraculously resolved in a day, there is a good chance that all the conservative crowd might become India's biggest fans and may start cheer leading for India.

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Post by Hellsangel Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:15 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
indophile wrote:Washington Post coverage on Khobargade.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/visa-fraud-case-of-devyani-khobragade-roils-us-india-relations-sparks-new-legal-dispute/2014/01/07/ba3490b6-77cc-11e3-8963-b4b654bcc9b2_story.html


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/india-moves-to-end-expat-privileges-at-us-club-sign-of-anger-at-diplomats-arrest-in-ny/2014/01/08/761554d6-7850-11e3-a647-a19deaf575b3_story.html?hpid=z3

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/us-indian-cultural-political-divide-revealed-by-diplomats-arrest/2014/01/07/121c701a-77c2-11e3-b1c5-739e63e9c9a7_story.html?hpid=z3

Indian Govt. should stop pussyfooting, grow a pair and lock up that gay couple and have an  interpol notice served to ShareKhan for interfering & whisking away accused family from ongoing legal proceedings then this issue will be miraculously resolved in a day, there is a good chance that all the conservative crowd might become India's biggest fans and may start cheer leading for India.

Wishful thinking or frustration, Comrade CD, that you are going against your own values?
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Post by Rishi Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:19 pm

Someone should investigate whether Preet Bharara's parents lied on their visa applications.

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Post by confuzzled dude Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:31 am

Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Indian Govt. should stop pussyfooting, grow a pair and lock up that gay couple and have an  interpol notice served to ShareKhan for interfering & whisking away accused family from ongoing legal proceedings then this issue will be miraculously resolved in a day, there is a good chance that all the conservative crowd might become India's biggest fans and may start cheer leading for India.

Wishful thinking or frustration, Comrade CD, that you are going against your own values?
I know it is wishful thinking but the reality is every Tom, Dick and Harry knows America is a self-imploding superpower, they can't afford another war against meek B'desh let alone India should they lock up a couple of diplomats; India should take advantage of it rather than tiptoeing around the issue under the garb of matured diplomacy or whatever crap. What values are you trying to shove in my mouth now? I may not have anything against same-sex marriages but never cozied up to the idea I thought I made it clear to you a few months ago.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:36 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Indian Govt. should stop pussyfooting, grow a pair and lock up that gay couple and have an  interpol notice served to ShareKhan for interfering & whisking away accused family from ongoing legal proceedings then this issue will be miraculously resolved in a day, there is a good chance that all the conservative crowd might become India's biggest fans and may start cheer leading for India.

Wishful thinking or frustration, Comrade CD, that you are going against your own values?
I know it is wishful thinking but the reality is every Tom, Dick and Harry knows America is a self-imploding superpower, they can't afford another war against meek B'desh let alone India should they lock up a couple of diplomats; India should take advantage of it rather than tiptoeing around the issue under the garb of matured diplomacy or whatever crap. What values are you trying to shove in my mouth now? I may not have anything against same-sex marriages but never cozied up to the idea I thought I made it clear to you a few months ago.

looks like wapo warrior had a kebab dinner last nite with his compatriots at reston kebab place. by tom dick & harry you mean abdul, amir & mohammad?

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Post by truthbetold Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:20 pm

It looks like a conflict between state dept and judiciary is holding up the settlement. another issue is on Indian side devyani wants to be back in usa after settlement and mea is not willing to support that all the way.
for now Indian govt will keep the issue alive for electoral reasons. after.may 14 mea honchos will cut a deal and let devyani find her own way.

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Post by confuzzled dude Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:22 pm

truthbetold wrote:It looks like a conflict between state dept and judiciary is holding up the settlement. another issue is on Indian side devyani wants to be back in usa after settlement and mea is not willing to support that all the way.
for now Indian govt will keep the issue alive for electoral reasons. after.may 14  mea honchos will cut a deal and let devyani find her own way.

I think, after 13th, not even the guy sitting in the WH can do anything about it.

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Post by truthbetold Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:45 pm

Devyani does not seem to understand the dynamics.
here are some pieces of information provided by Indian express
a. devyani wants the right to come to usa in future
b. devyani is ready to agree to criminal culpability if no jail time was involved.
c. mea does not want criminal culpability for fear of future impact on other diplomats.
d. mea is not so keen on devyani desire to return to usa later. They plan to move her to un get immunity and get her out of usa after few months.
e. it looks like state dept took the lead in going after devyani after she approached them.
f. issue became a tough nut with judiciary involvement.

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:54 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:It looks like a conflict between state dept and judiciary is holding up the settlement. another issue is on Indian side devyani wants to be back in usa after settlement and mea is not willing to support that all the way.
for now Indian govt will keep the issue alive for electoral reasons. after.may 14  mea honchos will cut a deal and let devyani find her own way.

I think, after 13th, not even the guy sitting in the WH can do anything about it.
why not?
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Post by indophile Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:59 pm

It seems her hubby is a U.S citizen. That is what's behind her wish to come back to America. But a convicted felon is not allowed in.
pellaite kaani verri kudaradu, verri kudirite kaani pellavadu - that's the problem. (Translation - Unless the guy is married his crazyness will not be cured; unless that craziness is cured no one will marry him)

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Post by confuzzled dude Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:04 pm

Seva Lamberdar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
truthbetold wrote:It looks like a conflict between state dept and judiciary is holding up the settlement. another issue is on Indian side devyani wants to be back in usa after settlement and mea is not willing to support that all the way.
for now Indian govt will keep the issue alive for electoral reasons. after.may 14  mea honchos will cut a deal and let devyani find her own way.

I think, after 13th, not even the guy sitting in the WH can do anything about it.
why not?

Q: Can the US drop this case as India has demanded?

A: According some legal experts, the US can drop the charges at this stage. Once the charges are formally registered, even the White House can't save her. According to former foreign secretary of India Kanwal Sibal, charges can be dropped only before mid-January. Like in India, judiciary is independent also in the US. Government can't dictate terms to the judiciary

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/devyani-khobragade-case-12-key-questions-and-their-answers/440695-2.html

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Post by confuzzled dude Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:14 pm

truthbetold wrote:Devyani does not seem to understand the dynamics.
here are some pieces of information provided by Indian express
a. devyani wants the right to come to usa in future
b. devyani is ready to agree to criminal culpability if no jail time was involved.
c. mea does not want criminal culpability for fear of future impact on other diplomats.
d. mea is not so keen on devyani desire to return to usa later. They plan to move her to un get immunity and get her out of usa after few months.
e. it looks like state dept took the lead in going after devyani after she approached them.
f. issue became a tough nut with judiciary involvement.

That makes sense, they were screwed twice before.

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Post by truthbetold Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:22 pm

Mea should keep the discussion in cold freeze till after Indian elections. then they should.choose a deal in national interest. devyani should decide on her future. she cannot have cake and eat it too. in fact.she.cannot have.cake. she has no option but to abandon usa dream.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:10 am

Devyani Khobragade, India’s deputy consul general in New York, was recently arrested for visa fraud- allegedly paying her housekeeper Sangeeta a mere $3.31 per hour (instead of the $9.75 required under US law), and lying to the US officials about Sangeeta’s real wage and working conditions. In fact, the official complaint alleges that Sangeeta was working “far more than 40 hours per week,” making her wage even less than $3.31. More details of the case involving threats to Sangeeta’s family have emerged since the arrest.  While the arrest has sparked a diplomatic row between the US and India, with justifiable concerns about Khobragade’s treatment upon arrest at the center, we must not lose sight of the serious criminal allegations of fraud and worker exploitation. India is trying to shield Khobragade from the consequences of her actions -- making sure Sangeeta never gets a day in court. Tell Secretary Kerry and President Obama that no one should get a “free pass” for violating human rights in the United States.  
Here at the National Domestic Workers Alliance (NDWA), we help thousands of women like Sangeeta who have suffered exploitation and abuse, had their wages stolen, and struggled to achieve basic workplace protections. Today we #StandWithSangeeta and ask you to join us.
The Indian government is trying to deny Sangeeta her day in court, her chance for justice. They are claiming Khobragade had “diplomatic immunity” when she was arrested, and thus cannot be brought to trial. Even worse, instead of asking her to take responsibility for her actions, they are rewarding her with a position in the UN, which they say would solidify her immunity. Diplomatic immunity is a privilege that should not be used as a shield against criminal prosecution for private acts, and the US has the power to decide whether or not to grant her request for reaccreditation to the UN.
Dozens of cases of labor exploitation and human trafficking at the hands of Diplomats have made headlines over the years. Allowing Khobragade to hide behind immunity could undermine a decade of progress in fighting against this kind of abuse.
The United States should refuse to give Khobragade a “free pass” for exploitation. We are asking them to:
- Deny Khobragade’s reaccreditation to the United Nations
- Continue the federal criminal prosecution against her
- Continue to enforce the important regulations that protect Sangeeta and the hundreds of other domestic workers who come to the US with diplomats and international officials from all over the world.
Join us as we #StandWithSangeeta and ask the U.S. government to hold diplomats accountable for labor exploitation.

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