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Post by southindian Mon May 05, 2014 10:54 am

I did not understand this statement.

Appearing before a bench headed by Justice BS Chauhan, additional solicitor general KV Vishwanathan submitted that blocking all such websites would cause greater harm. "Everything would be blocked and even good literature would be blocked and it would cause more greater harm," he said. 

What good literature on porn sites is KV Viswanathan talking about? Is this the same good literature followed by ND Tiwari, Singhvi, Digvijay Singh and by all MPs, MLAs during parliament session?

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Post by Idéfix Mon May 05, 2014 11:22 am

For a change, GoI is arguing for free speech. And that's a good thing.
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Post by southindian Mon May 05, 2014 11:29 am

Nonsense! BS

Free speech? Does he refer to good literature on porn sites as free speech?

If GoI wants to implement free speech then they should start from Doordarshan.

i.e. Report everything opposition leaders speak in rallies.
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Post by Idéfix Mon May 05, 2014 11:41 am

southindian wrote:Nonsense! BS

Free speech? Does he refer to good literature on porn sites as free speech?

If GoI wants to implement free speech then they should start from Doordarshan.

i.e. Report everything opposition leaders speak in rallies.
You may not like the content on some websites, and you are free to stay away from those sites. Nobody forces you to visit sites that you don't like to visit. Allowing the government to censor those sites because you don't like them is a bad, bad idea.
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Post by Guest Mon May 05, 2014 12:04 pm

Who's the govt or the courts to decide what the citizens need to watch or not watch? Why block anything? It's the headache of the parents of young children, not of the govt or the courts.

Same with sex toys. I believe they are banned in india. Ridic! It's a mulitibillion dollar industry in the world.

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Post by southindian Mon May 05, 2014 12:18 pm

Idéfix wrote:
southindian wrote:Nonsense! BS

Free speech? Does he refer to good literature on porn sites as free speech?

If GoI wants to implement free speech then they should start from Doordarshan.

i.e. Report everything opposition leaders speak in rallies.
You may not like the content on some websites, and you are free to stay away from those sites. Nobody forces you to visit sites that you don't like to visit. Allowing the government to censor those sites because you don't like them is a bad, bad idea.
Your reference to "Free speech" was bad, because GoI has no intention for making this a free speech issue. GoI is blocking free speech on Doordarshan, so your assumption for GoI is wrong.

I was looking for the relevance of "Keeping these sites unblocked so Good-Literature-On-Porn-Sites is available".

Appearing before a bench headed by Justice BS Chauhan, additional solicitor general KV Vishwanathan submitted that blocking all such websites would cause greater harm. "Everything would be blocked and even good literature would be blocked and it would cause more greater harm," he said. 


Anyone has a clue what that means.
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Post by Idéfix Mon May 05, 2014 12:22 pm

southindian wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
southindian wrote:Nonsense! BS

Free speech? Does he refer to good literature on porn sites as free speech?

If GoI wants to implement free speech then they should start from Doordarshan.

i.e. Report everything opposition leaders speak in rallies.
You may not like the content on some websites, and you are free to stay away from those sites. Nobody forces you to visit sites that you don't like to visit. Allowing the government to censor those sites because you don't like them is a bad, bad idea.
Your reference to "Free speech" was bad, because GoI has no intention for making this a free speech issue. GoI is blocking free speech on Doordarshan, so your assumption for GoI is wrong.

I was looking for the relevance of "Keeping these sites unblocked so Good-Literature-On-Porn-Sites is available".

Appearing before a bench headed by Justice BS Chauhan, additional solicitor general KV Vishwanathan submitted that blocking all such websites would cause greater harm. "Everything would be blocked and even good literature would be blocked and it would cause more greater harm," he said. 


Anyone has a clue what that means.
Do you consider Kalidasa's works good literature?
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Post by southindian Mon May 05, 2014 1:12 pm

Idéfix wrote:
southindian wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
southindian wrote:Nonsense! BS

Free speech? Does he refer to good literature on porn sites as free speech?

If GoI wants to implement free speech then they should start from Doordarshan.

i.e. Report everything opposition leaders speak in rallies.
You may not like the content on some websites, and you are free to stay away from those sites. Nobody forces you to visit sites that you don't like to visit. Allowing the government to censor those sites because you don't like them is a bad, bad idea.
Your reference to "Free speech" was bad, because GoI has no intention for making this a free speech issue. GoI is blocking free speech on Doordarshan, so your assumption for GoI is wrong.

I was looking for the relevance of "Keeping these sites unblocked so Good-Literature-On-Porn-Sites is available".

Appearing before a bench headed by Justice BS Chauhan, additional solicitor general KV Vishwanathan submitted that blocking all such websites would cause greater harm. "Everything would be blocked and even good literature would be blocked and it would cause more greater harm," he said. 


Anyone has a clue what that means.
Do you consider Kalidasa's works good literature?
Digress?

In 2014, what is good literature on porn sites that when blocked would cause more greater harm?
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Post by pravalika nanda Mon May 05, 2014 6:58 pm

Idéfix wrote:For a change, GoI is arguing for free speech. And that's a good thing.
I'm not sure it is so simple. porn vulgarizes sex and women. I think it is harmful to society. In a country like india where the consumption of porn must be high I suspect it probably contributes to the crimes against women that we read about. Unfortunately these have not been small crimes. my mind is not made up on the matter but I think what we need to do is make sex education available to everyone and also portray sex in mainstream television as a normal natural and healthy act like every single day so people get over it and not treat it as something shameful. I think in a place like india it may be useful to limit porn while taking my recc as delineated above.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Mon May 05, 2014 7:44 pm

the freedom of speech argument aside, i think there is an important biological reason why porn is harmful  -- it deadens men's libidos and sets up unrealistic expectations and imagery. i don't know why this is seldom discussed.
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Post by Guest Mon May 05, 2014 7:51 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:aside from the freedom of speech argument, i think there is another important biological reason why porn is harmful  -- it deadens men's libidos and sets up unrealistic expectations and imagery. i don't know why this is seldom discussed.

in japan porn is more freely available than elsewhere and in fact it is possible to obtain porn through vending machines (i am not sure what kind of check they have in place to prevent children from accessing porn). the rationale given is that free access to porn reduces incidents of rapes and molestations.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Mon May 05, 2014 7:53 pm

Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:aside from the freedom of speech argument, i think there is another important biological reason why porn is harmful  -- it deadens men's libidos and sets up unrealistic expectations and imagery. i don't know why this is seldom discussed.

in japan porn is more freely available than elsewhere and in fact it is possible to obtain porn through vending machines (i am not sure what kind of check they have in place to prevent children from accessing porn). the rationale given is that free access to porn reduces incidents of rapes and molestations.

yes and young japanese men and women have a high level of sexual dysfunction, to the point that many of them have given up on actual sex.
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Post by Rishi Mon May 05, 2014 7:55 pm

Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:aside from the freedom of speech argument, i think there is another important biological reason why porn is harmful  -- it deadens men's libidos and sets up unrealistic expectations and imagery. i don't know why this is seldom discussed.

in japan porn is more freely available than elsewhere and in fact it is possible to obtain porn through vending machines (i am not sure what kind of check they have in place to prevent children from accessing porn). the rationale given is that free access to porn reduces incidents of rapes and molestations.
>>>Ted Bundy confessed that it was his addiction to port that drove him to rape and kill his victims.

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Post by smArtha Tue May 06, 2014 9:49 am

Kinnera wrote:Same with sex toys. I believe they are banned in india. Ridic! It's a mulitibillion dollar industry in the world.

Do you have the same logic for narcotics? It is a multi-billion dollar industry too

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Post by Guest Tue May 06, 2014 8:41 pm

smArtha wrote:
Kinnera wrote:Same with sex toys. I believe they are banned in india. Ridic! It's a mulitibillion dollar industry in the world.

Do you have the same logic for narcotics? It is a multi-billion dollar industry too
I didn't know that sex toys are hazardous to health.

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Post by nevada Tue May 06, 2014 8:46 pm

Rishi wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:aside from the freedom of speech argument, i think there is another important biological reason why porn is harmful  -- it deadens men's libidos and sets up unrealistic expectations and imagery. i don't know why this is seldom discussed.

in japan porn is more freely available than elsewhere and in fact it is possible to obtain porn through vending machines (i am not sure what kind of check they have in place to prevent children from accessing porn). the rationale given is that free access to porn reduces incidents of rapes and molestations.
>>>Ted Bundy confessed that it was his addiction to port that drove him to rape and kill his victims.

Port wine causes such extreme reactions? Who knew?

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue May 06, 2014 11:25 pm

This makes perfect sense... here is why...

I am sure your workplace has rules and even filtering/blocking software. Please do try to google "Vagina", Breast cancer, Penis, or other medical terms. and then click some of the sites.

Watch the filter act idiotically blocking even legit information sites.

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