In 2019, what will be your criteria to say NDA govt is successful?

truthbetold wrote:Assuming opinion polls are right and a modi led NDA is in power in 2014,  what accomplishments during their 5 years would make you say this NDA term is successful? 

Like to hear from people on both sides. 

My criteria for success:

1.  An avg 7% Indian economic growth over 5 years. 

2. No major religious incident(s) - (like 1984 sikh riots, godhra riots)

truthbetold wrote:Assuming opinion polls are right and a modi led NDA is in power in 2014,  what accomplishments during their 5 years would make you say this NDA term is successful? 

Like to hear from people on both sides. 

My criteria for success:

1.  An avg 7% Indian economic growth over 5 years. 

2. No major religious incident(s) - (like 1984 sikh riots, godhra riots)

confuzzled dude wrote:1. Build Ram Mandir
2. Clean Ganges
3. Kick illegal B'deshi muslims out
4. Repeal Article 370
5. Implement UCC
6. Complete Polavaram Project
7. Develop Andhra (We need a city to match Ahmedabad in 5 years, if not S'pore)
8. Send all looters like Jagan, Vadra to Tihar

truthbetold wrote:Assuming opinion polls are right and a modi led NDA is in power in 2014,  what accomplishments during their 5 years would make you say this NDA term is successful? 

Like to hear from people on both sides. 

My criteria for success:

1.  An avg 7% Indian economic growth over 5 years. 

2. No major religious incident(s) - (like 1984 sikh riots, godhra riots)

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:1. Build Ram Mandir
2. Clean Ganges
3. Kick illegal B'deshi muslims out
4. Repeal Article 370
5. Implement UCC
6. Complete Polavaram Project
7. Develop Andhra (We need a city to match Ahmedabad in 5 years, if not S'pore)
8. Send all looters like Jagan, Vadra to Tihar

cd
1, 4, and 5 are not nda manifesto promises.but you can put them up.
if polavaram is complete in five years , bjp will form next govt in ap.
a project of that magnitude has not been completed in 5 years in Indian history.

truthbetold wrote:Uppili
you are free to set  any criteria you want. but ucc is not a nda manifesto promise.

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:1. Build Ram Mandir
2. Clean Ganges
3. Kick illegal B'deshi muslims out
4. Repeal Article 370
5. Implement UCC
6. Complete Polavaram Project
7. Develop Andhra (We need a city to match Ahmedabad in 5 years, if not S'pore)
8. Send all looters like Jagan, Vadra to Tihar

cd
1, 4, and 5 are not nda manifesto promises.but you can put them up.
if polavaram is complete in five years , bjp will form next govt in ap.
a project of that magnitude has not been completed in 5 years in Indian history.

They are.

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:1. Build Ram Mandir
2. Clean Ganges
3. Kick illegal B'deshi muslims out
4. Repeal Article 370
5. Implement UCC
6. Complete Polavaram Project
7. Develop Andhra (We need a city to match Ahmedabad in 5 years, if not S'pore)
8. Send all looters like Jagan, Vadra to Tihar

cd
1, 4, and 5 are not nda manifesto promises.but you can put them up.
if polavaram is complete in five years , bjp will form next govt in ap.
a project of that magnitude has not been completed in 5 years in Indian history.

They are.

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:1. Build Ram Mandir
2. Clean Ganges
3. Kick illegal B'deshi muslims out
4. Repeal Article 370
5. Implement UCC
6. Complete Polavaram Project
7. Develop Andhra (We need a city to match Ahmedabad in 5 years, if not S'pore)
8. Send all looters like Jagan, Vadra to Tihar

cd
1, 4, and 5 are not nda manifesto promises.but you can put them up.
if polavaram is complete in five years , bjp will form next govt in ap.
a project of that magnitude has not been completed in 5 years in Indian history.

They are.

just to make sure. we are discussing a possible nda govt. Can you provide links?

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:1. Build Ram Mandir
2. Clean Ganges
3. Kick illegal B'deshi muslims out
4. Repeal Article 370
5. Implement UCC
6. Complete Polavaram Project
7. Develop Andhra (We need a city to match Ahmedabad in 5 years, if not S'pore)
8. Send all looters like Jagan, Vadra to Tihar

cd
1, 4, and 5 are not nda manifesto promises.but you can put them up.
if polavaram is complete in five years , bjp will form next govt in ap.
a project of that magnitude has not been completed in 5 years in Indian history.

They are.

just to make sure. we are discussing a possible nda govt. Can you provide links?

http://bjpelectionmanifesto.com/pdf/manifesto2014.pdf

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:
http://bjpelectionmanifesto.com/pdf/manifesto2014.pdf

Did I use bjp name anywhere in my original post?

Try again.

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

truthbetold wrote:

cd
1, 4, and 5 are not nda manifesto promises.but you can put them up.
if polavaram is complete in five years , bjp will form next govt in ap.
a project of that magnitude has not been completed in 5 years in Indian history.

They are.

just to make sure. we are discussing a possible nda govt. Can you provide links?

http://bjpelectionmanifesto.com/pdf/manifesto2014.pdf

Did I use bjp name anywhere in my original post?

Try again.

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

5. 8 million beggardeshis sent back by 2019.

b_A wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

5. 8 million beggardeshis sent back by 2019.

I really really doubt if a single infilatrator will be sent back. Forget about Mamta , even the allies like Babu,Paswan ji will start protesting to show their secular credentials.

b_A wrote:

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

5. 8 million beggardeshis sent back by 2019.

I really really doubt if a single infilatrator will be sent back. Forget about Mamta , even the allies like Babu,Paswan ji will start protesting to show their secular credentials.

Propagandhi711 wrote:if they dont succeed in terms laid out by the cognoscenti then what? the burden of governing the country goes back to it's natural owners, i.e. congress? it's a flawed question

Idéfix wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:if they dont succeed in terms laid out by the cognoscenti then what? the burden of governing the country goes back to it's natural owners, i.e. congress? it's a flawed question

Then Modiji would have failed to do what little good even UPA with all its numerous faults did for the economy.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:if they dont succeed in terms laid out by the cognoscenti then what? the burden of governing the country goes back to it's natural owners, i.e. congress? it's a flawed question

Then Modiji would have failed to do what little good even UPA with all its numerous faults did for the economy.

and what is that?

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

smArtha wrote:

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

Unless it hits the core survival issues of a large number of electorate, rest of the Indian (may be that of other nations too) democracy is all about managing perceptions. It is very likely that Modi may be elected and re-elected without delivering any of the above or rejected even if he delivers over and above the list there. 

Additionally, if his actions impact the positions of Bangladeshi Immigrants or Kashmiri Fundamentalists or Coerced Conversions then they are bound to create riots which may result in loss of property and life before the State/Center get the situation in control. In such a scenario, he may not be culpable even though his actions had instigated those situations. He may then fail your #3 and still deliver on #1,#2 and #4.

Idéfix wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:if they dont succeed in terms laid out by the cognoscenti then what? the burden of governing the country goes back to it's natural owners, i.e. congress? it's a flawed question

Then Modiji would have failed to do what little good even UPA with all its numerous faults did for the economy.

and what is that?

2. Delivered clearly higher GDP growth than all peers except China, and narrowing the growth gap with China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Increase in HDI in excess of India's peers, except Bangladesh.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:if they dont succeed in terms laid out by the cognoscenti then what? the burden of governing the country goes back to it's natural owners, i.e. congress? it's a flawed question

Then Modiji would have failed to do what little good even UPA with all its numerous faults did for the economy.

and what is that?

2. Delivered clearly higher GDP growth than all peers except China, and narrowing the growth gap with China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Increase in HDI in excess of India's peers, except Bangladesh.

you realize the global dynamics outside the control of india has something to do with this more than UPA govt doing their job, right? you mean UPA should take credit for the deflating commodity super cycle that depressed the growth rates of it's peers?

when did the mass scale riots happen in gujarat again? you mean UPA should get credit when a some events that happens once in 20 yrs didnt happen in their 5 yr reign? nice lowering of the bar there. you are sneaky indeed

Propagandhi711 wrote:

Idéfix wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:if they dont succeed in terms laid out by the cognoscenti then what? the burden of governing the country goes back to it's natural owners, i.e. congress? it's a flawed question

Then Modiji would have failed to do what little good even UPA with all its numerous faults did for the economy.

and what is that? holding together "the secular fabric of the country"? "india inc" had a great opportunity in '08-09 to build on the positive momentum from early '00s and become players of some reckon but there was no assistance from NDA govt as you see happen in almost all the other countries that took the great leap in past 50 yrs (japan, korea, singapore, taiwan, china). that is not a little good, that's criminal incompetence of epic proportions that shouldnt be forgiven in 50 yrs. what this question by OP is doing is setting up terms under which the govt will be returned to that corrupt admin like it were some god given right. as a first termer, modi should steady the ship first, outlandish success metrics be damned. restoring confidence with capital inflows should be a good enough start for his second term to build on.

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

You set the agenda for CONartists in the official opposition to harass Modi.

Hopefully, Modi will silence the excessively brilliant sikular fukularists.

Idéfix wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

Idéfix wrote:1. Government completes a full term in office -- no mid-term general elections.
2. GDP growth clearly in excess of India's peers. This means a real GDP CAGR at least one percentage point higher than all peers except China, and continuing to close the growth gap with China to have a higher GDP growth rate by 2019 than China.
3. No mass-scale communal riots like in Gujarat.
4. Improvement in Human Development Index clearly in excess of India's peers.

You set the agenda for CONartists in the official opposition to harass Modi.

Hopefully, Modi will silence the excessively brilliant sikular fukularists.

Guruvu gaaru, how do you hope Modiji will silence these people? Censorship, the Chinese method, or the Pakistani method?

confuzzled dude wrote:The fun begins now, assuming Modi lasts full 5 years. Modi BHAJAN-Artists enjoy while it lasts it's a slippery slope form here on in. he he he...