Secular counter-attack: US court summons Narendra Modi for 2002 Gujarat riots case

Kayalvizhi wrote:The criminal lawyer should submit a letter from State Department that the alleged criminal has diplomatic immunity. It will be done soon.

Rashmun wrote:As PM of India doesn't he have immunity from any prosecution in a US court?

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

This is a silly case and should not be entertained by the U.S. courts in the first place. It's like someone bringing charges in Indian, or French, or British, or Russian court against an American allegedly committing an offense in the U.S. It has no logic or legal basis. Even a fifth grader in school can see the flaws and silliness in trying Modi in the U.S. courts for Gujarat riots.

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

Kris wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

>>>. The "odor of this shyt" if it stays for any length of time, is not going to be in Modi's disfavor in today's world. This is aside from the aspects related to diplomatic immunity, frivolous legal action and lack of jurisdiction. What next? A Podunk court issuing a warrant for the Chinese premier?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

>>>. The "odor of this shyt" if it stays for any length of time, is not going to be in Modi's disfavor in today's world. This is aside from the aspects related to diplomatic immunity, frivolous legal action and lack of jurisdiction. What next? A Podunk court issuing a warrant for the Chinese premier?

what is the significance of "today's world" in the first sentence of your post?

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

Rashmun wrote:http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/us-court-summons-pm-narendra-modi-visit/1/392783.html

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MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

>>>. The "odor of this shyt" if it stays for any length of time, is not going to be in Modi's disfavor in today's world. This is aside from the aspects related to diplomatic immunity, frivolous legal action and lack of jurisdiction. What next? A Podunk court issuing a warrant for the Chinese premier?

what is the significance of "today's world" in the first sentence of your post?

>>>Do you think this court has jurisdiction in this case? The rest of my point is actually peripheral.

I don't know. The fact is that a judge has decided that it is. I remember reading about Nazi war criminals standing trial in the US. Regardless of whether it was peripheral or not, could you clarify what you meant by "today's world"?

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:why do I keep seeing posts appearing, disappearing, reappearing over and over? I swear i saw 2 posts, then saw them disappear, then a new post appear. then that 1 post disappeared and the first 2 posts reappeared.

Or I am just having a Friday and need to step away.

indophile wrote:

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:why do I keep seeing posts appearing, disappearing, reappearing over and over? I swear i saw 2 posts, then saw them disappear, then a new post appear. then that 1 post disappeared and the first 2 posts reappeared.

Or I am just having a Friday and need to step away.

May be posters are editing their posts for a more effective presentation of their views.

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

When people like you and the Maulanas - who all have no respect for the judiciary or due process and its outcomes - continue to fart and suffer from perennial diarrhea, it will indeed stay forever.  But then, people will get used to your stink and just ignore.

Kris wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

>>>. The "odor of this shyt" if it stays for any length of time, is not going to be in Modi's disfavor in today's world. This is aside from the aspects related to diplomatic immunity, frivolous legal action and lack of jurisdiction. What next? A Podunk court issuing a warrant for the Chinese premier?

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

narenbhai has learnt a great deal since 2002 from a multicultural india, about freedom and democracy. he is the best we could muster at this point in our life as a nation. by and large, he is on the right track: on the economy, governance, and foeign relations. (however, he should stop telling the coca cola and the pepsi companies to use fruit juice in their colas.) 

most of all, narenbhai has a vision for a thriving, pleasant india, and is willing to work and lead to fulfill it. for now, and for the foreseeable future, I am behind narenbhai. (i shall continue to reject hindu nationalism and its narrow vision of india, and its organizations that provoke communal strife.)

I shall therefore NOT want narenbhai or the nation distracted by law suits or criminal investigations.

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

Kris wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>>. The "odor of this shyt" if it stays for any length of time, is not going to be in Modi's disfavor in today's world. This is aside from the aspects related to diplomatic immunity, frivolous legal action and lack of jurisdiction. What next? A Podunk court issuing a warrant for the Chinese premier?

what is the significance of "today's world" in the first sentence of your post?

>>>Do you think this court has jurisdiction in this case? The rest of my point is actually peripheral.

I don't know. The fact is that a judge has decided that it is. I remember reading about Nazi war criminals standing trial in the US. Regardless of whether it was peripheral or not, could you clarify what you meant by "today's world"?

>>> It does not. See HA's post. This sort of action happens all the time. What I meant was Geopolitics/Economic leverage. I am not sure why you are hung up on this point.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:>>> It does not. See HA's post. This sort of action happens all the time. What I meant was Geopolitics/Economic leverage. I am not sure why you are hung up on this point.

does "today's world" and "geopolitics" in this context mean the following? the majority of the victims in the riots that followed the train burning incidents are co-religionists with the group responsible for much of the terrorism around the world.  therefore, people around the world will look kindly upon modi, i.e. "the shyt" will not linger. i wish you'd be clearer and more blunt if that was your message. if that's not what you meant, i still don't get it.

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:>>> It does not. See HA's post. This sort of action happens all the time. What I meant was Geopolitics/Economic leverage. I am not sure why you are hung up on this point.

does "today's world" and "geopolitics" in this context mean the following? the majority of the victims in the riots that followed the train burning incidents are co-religionists with the group responsible for much of the terrorism around the world.  therefore, people around the world will look kindly upon modi, i.e. "the shyt" will not linger. i wish you'd be clearer and more blunt if that was your message. if that's not what you meant, i still don't get it.

To put it bluntly, US waged two wars when 3-4 planes rammed into their buildings. They are doing the air strikes now (even when the ultra liberal Obama is at the helm) when a couple of their citizens were beheaded. They can very well understand the rage of the mobs after two bogies were set on fire, burning women and children alive. The whole world is sick and tired of Islamic fundamentalism. You may hate this, but no one gives a shyt about 'the shyt'. People in India didn't give a shyt to it. People of the world won't give a shyt to it either.

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:>>> It does not. See HA's post. This sort of action happens all the time. What I meant was Geopolitics/Economic leverage. I am not sure why you are hung up on this point.

does "today's world" and "geopolitics" in this context mean the following? the majority of the victims in the riots that followed the train burning incidents are co-religionists with the group responsible for much of the terrorism around the world.  therefore, people around the world will look kindly upon modi, i.e. "the shyt" will not linger. i wish you'd be clearer and more blunt if that was your message. if that's not what you meant, i still don't get it.

To put it bluntly, US waged two wars when 3-4 planes rammed into their buildings. They are doing the air strikes now (even when the ultra liberal Obama is at the helm) when a couple of their citizens were beheaded. They can very well understand the rage of the mobs after two bogies were set on fire, burning women and children alive. The whole world is sick and tired of Islamic fundamentalism. You may hate this, but no one gives a shyt about 'the shyt'. People in India didn't give a shyt to it. People of the world won't give a shyt to it either.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

Kinnera wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:>>> It does not. See HA's post. This sort of action happens all the time. What I meant was Geopolitics/Economic leverage. I am not sure why you are hung up on this point.

does "today's world" and "geopolitics" in this context mean the following? the majority of the victims in the riots that followed the train burning incidents are co-religionists with the group responsible for much of the terrorism around the world.  therefore, people around the world will look kindly upon modi, i.e. "the shyt" will not linger. i wish you'd be clearer and more blunt if that was your message. if that's not what you meant, i still don't get it.

To put it bluntly, US waged two wars when 3-4 planes rammed into their buildings. They are doing the air strikes now (even when the ultra liberal Obama is at the helm) when a couple of their citizens were beheaded. They can very well understand the rage of the mobs after two bogies were set on fire, burning women and children alive. The whole world is sick and tired of Islamic fundamentalism. You may hate this, but no one gives a shyt about 'the shyt'. People in India didn't give a shyt to it. People of the world won't give a shyt to it either.

Yesterday at work a black guy and a white redneck both were discussing Oklahoma beheading, and their comments on IS, iSlam, and muslims would make SuChers look like Gandhian....Ironically, I did not participate in their discussion and was studying them.

I think the entire muslim community is into suicide mission to kill their own relevance, credibility, and respect among the world citizens.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

what is the significance of "today's world" in the first sentence of your post?

>>>Do you think this court has jurisdiction in this case? The rest of my point is actually peripheral.

I don't know. The fact is that a judge has decided that it is. I remember reading about Nazi war criminals standing trial in the US. Regardless of whether it was peripheral or not, could you clarify what you meant by "today's world"?

>>> It does not. See HA's post. This sort of action happens all the time. What I meant was Geopolitics/Economic leverage. I am not sure why you are hung up on this point.

does "today's world" and "geopolitics" in this context mean the following? the majority of the victims in the riots that followed the train burning incidents are co-religionists with the group responsible for much of the terrorism around the world.  therefore, people around the world will look kindly upon modi, i.e. "the shyt" will not linger. i wish you'd be clearer and more blunt if that was your message. if that's not what you meant, i still don't get it.

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

narenbhai has learnt a great deal since 2002 from a multicultural india, about freedom and democracy. he is the best we could muster at this point in our life as a nation. by and large, he is on the right track: on the economy, governance, and foeign relations. (however, he should stop telling the coca cola and the pepsi companies to use fruit juice in their colas.) 

most of all, narenbhai has a vision for a thriving, pleasant india, and is willing to work and lead to fulfill it. for now, and for the foreseeable future, I am behind narenbhai. (i shall continue to reject hindu nationalism and its narrow vision of india, and its organizations that provoke communal strife.)

I shall therefore NOT want narenbhai or the nation distracted by law suits or criminal investigations.

pravalika nanda wrote:

swapna wrote:

swapna wrote:I was afraid that this might happen; indeed, I had posted here about that a few weeks ago, alarmed that narenbhai was talking a risk by visiting the u.s. at that time, kris krishnaswamy and sam gowNDer had dismissed my fears more forcefully than they do now.

this "shyt," as the gowNDer quaintly puts it, will not go away, for that's the nature of a well-functioning justice system that does not recognize "vvips" or wealthy persons. it is likely that narenbhai will leave the u.s. this time without having to make a court appearance, because of the 21 days he's given to respond, but he probably will never be allowed to enter the u.s. again.

the odour of this "shyt" will stay for a long time.

narenbhai has learnt a great deal since 2002 from a multicultural india, about freedom and democracy. he is the best we could muster at this point in our life as a nation. by and large, he is on the right track: on the economy, governance, and foeign relations. (however, he should stop telling the coca cola and the pepsi companies to use fruit juice in their colas.) 

most of all, narenbhai has a vision for a thriving, pleasant india, and is willing to work and lead to fulfill it. for now, and for the foreseeable future, I am behind narenbhai. (i shall continue to reject hindu nationalism and its narrow vision of india, and its organizations that provoke communal strife.)

I shall therefore NOT want narenbhai or the nation distracted by law suits or criminal investigations.

what a fucking joke, right? I mean you say whatever you want to about NM but if I dared say even a single positive thing about modi, secular-elites would've called me a hindu chaddi bitch. you included. all fucking losers with double-standards due to whom I censor myself.

i suppose the secular-elites didn't criticize this post of yours cuz they're in awe of your patriotism, you know, you putting aside the minority card for the moment.

of course, the minority card is not for a well-educated, wealthy, worldly person like yourself who has the means to achieve anything he pleases. and the intelligence to get justice for himself if wronged. the minority card is for the truly poor and under-privileged people of indina society. not for you. not for maria.