TN state board textbooks

[MaxEntropy_Man]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

[Guest]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

adding insult to injury lol.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

adding insult to injury lol.

only one language is conspicuous by its absence.  

i think however, that there are more languages besides the ones listed. for example i have friends who took french and yes hindi too. but the govt's free textbooks (on the web) are only these. the point is that those who carp about tamilians' parochialism can shove it where the sun don't shine. there is plenty of freedom to do what one wants. more i imagine than other places in india.

[Kayalvizhi]

My policy is reciprocation.

If Tamil medium is allowed in Maharashtra in schools with 20% Tamil students, do the same for Marathi in TN.

If Tamil language is taught in Gujarat in schools with 10% Tamil students, do the same for Gujarati in TN.

I think that TN is more liberal than some other states.

[Guest]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

adding insult to injury lol.

only one language is conspicuous by its absence.  

i think however, that there are more languages besides the ones listed. for example i have friends who took french and yes hindi too. but the govt's free textbooks (on the web) are only these. the point is that those who carp about tamilians' parochialism can shove it where the sun don't shine. there is plenty of freedom to do what one wants. more i imagine than other places in india.

yeah, that reminds me of a recent incident. a bunch of us were discussing some NaMo speech. A madrasi from madras, probably in his 30s, mentioned something about it being in Hindi and then he continued with some content of the speech. Normally, I would not have noticed anything unusual, but now that I am a veteran sucher, I instantly did and wanted to know if he saw some translated version or the Hindi version. So I asked him if he knows Hindi. He said he does as he learned it back home, but is a little out of practice now. So I concluded wisely, 'ah ok, you learned it in school?', now that I know that Hindi is an option in TN schools. He said, 'yeah in school, and I also joined some Hindi coaching classes later'.

Point being, if there are Hindi private coaching classes in Chennai, more than one people who I know must be going to it. Why though?

[MaxEntropy_Man]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

adding insult to injury lol.

only one language is conspicuous by its absence.  

i think however, that there are more languages besides the ones listed. for example i have friends who took french and yes hindi too. but the govt's free textbooks (on the web) are only these. the point is that those who carp about tamilians' parochialism can shove it where the sun don't shine. there is plenty of freedom to do what one wants. more i imagine than other places in india.

yeah, that reminds me of a recent incident. a bunch of us were discussing some NaMo speech. A madrasi from madras, probably in his 30s, mentioned something about it being in Hindi and then he continued with some content of the speech. Normally, I would not have noticed anything unusual, but now that I am a veteran sucher, I instantly did and wanted to know if he saw some translated version or the Hindi version. So I asked him if he knows Hindi. He said he does as he learned it back home, but is a little out of practice now. So I concluded wisely, 'ah ok, you learned it in school?', now that I know that Hindi is an option in TN schools. He said, 'yeah in school, and I also joined some Hindi coaching classes later'.

Point being, if there are Hindi private coaching classes in Chennai, more than one people who I know must be going to it. Why though?

maybe they want post office jobs in meerut or want to watch and enjoy dil deewana movies.

[FluteHolder]

maybe they want post office jobs in meerut or want to watch and enjoy dil deewana movies.


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[Guest]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

adding insult to injury lol.

only one language is conspicuous by its absence.  

i think however, that there are more languages besides the ones listed. for example i have friends who took french and yes hindi too. but the govt's free textbooks (on the web) are only these. the point is that those who carp about tamilians' parochialism can shove it where the sun don't shine. there is plenty of freedom to do what one wants. more i imagine than other places in india.

yeah, that reminds me of a recent incident. a bunch of us were discussing some NaMo speech. A madrasi from madras, probably in his 30s, mentioned something about it being in Hindi and then he continued with some content of the speech. Normally, I would not have noticed anything unusual, but now that I am a veteran sucher, I instantly did and wanted to know if he saw some translated version or the Hindi version. So I asked him if he knows Hindi. He said he does as he learned it back home, but is a little out of practice now. So I concluded wisely, 'ah ok, you learned it in school?', now that I know that Hindi is an option in TN schools. He said, 'yeah in school, and I also joined some Hindi coaching classes later'.

Point being, if there are Hindi private coaching classes in Chennai, more than one people who I know must be going to it. Why though?

maybe they want post office jobs in meerut or want to watch and enjoy dil deewana movies.

deleted prev post... makes sense, to find jobs in another state that has to deal with the local public. a doctor aunty i know, had to learn gujarati in 15 days to even qualify for an interview for a hospital in Baroda.

[southindian]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

Max, you are truly out of touch. A lot.

I visit Tamil Nadu 3+ times a year and the state has changed over the years since your 1980s, early 90s days.

You need to visit TN more often so you can provide correct information to SuCHers..... Or you can just Google.

This is an old article from 2009 and things have changed since then.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JQkcvMjAwOS8wMi8wMyNBcjAxMTAx

BK, the kids learning Hindi in TN today are not unfit in 2014 TN. In addition they find themselves easy to go along in Karnataka, Kerala and Andra areas.

[Guest]

guess the schools offer hindi, and the students opt for hindi, but as far as the TN govt is concerned, hindi is absent from their books.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

Max, you are truly out of touch. A lot.

I visit Tamil Nadu 3+ times a year and the state has changed over the years since your 1980s, early 90s days.

You need to visit TN more often so you can provide correct information to SuCHers..... Or you can just Google.

This is an old article from 2009 and things have changed since then.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JQkcvMjAwOS8wMi8wMyNBcjAxMTAx

BK, the kids learning Hindi in TN today are not unfit in 2014 TN. In addition they find themselves easy to go along in Karnataka, Kerala and Andra areas.

i am not out of touch. it has always been this way and this is what i've been saying all along. what tamilians object to is preachiness from northindians such as yourself. tamilians will learn the languages they need to, as they always have, because it is in their economic interest to do so, and it enriches their lives.

by contrast those from northindia who live for decades in TN and karnataka working at institutes like the IIT or the central leather research institute, never learn tamil or kannada and communicate with local vegetable vendors and household help through sign language. that said, the women are a little better than the men. some of them immigrate to the US and never learn english, you being a case in point.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

i must say the physics and math textbooks have improved a lot, though they are still not good enough compared to say the AP textbooks in the US, or even CBSE textbooks. i was just browsing through them.

[Kayalvizhi]

yeah, that reminds me of a recent incident. a bunch of us were discussing some NaMo speech. A madrasi from madras, probably in his 30s, mentioned something about it being in Hindi and then he continued with some content of the speech. Normally, I would not have noticed anything unusual, but now that I am a veteran sucher, I instantly did and wanted to know if he saw some translated version or the Hindi version. So I asked him if he knows Hindi. He said he does as he learned it back home, but is a little out of practice now. So I concluded wisely, 'ah ok, you learned it in school?', now that I know that Hindi is an option in TN schools. He said, 'yeah in school, and I also joined some Hindi coaching classes later'.

Point being, if there are Hindi private coaching classes in Chennai, more than one people who I know must be going to it. Why though?

maybe they want post office jobs in meerut or madurai (TN) or want to watch and enjoy dil deewana movies.

Red added yo reflect ground realities. You better pass a Hindi exam within the 1st year of employment at Madurai (TN) post office or hell will break loose from the Hindi Enforcement Department regional office.

[Kayalvizhi]

deleted prev post... makes sense, to find jobs in another state that has to deal with the local public. a doctor aunty i know, had to learn gujarati in 15 days to even qualify for an interview for a hospital in Baroda.

Yet Indian gov conytrolled offices of banks, insurance, rail station are staffed with Hindians who cannot read Tamil. That is India that is Hindia. The power of Hindi.

Now they have removed English exam for preliminary IAS exams too. Expect Hindian IAS collectors in Thanjavur (TN) who knows neither Tamil nor English.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

i just noted two terrible errors in the chemistry textbooks. just as sucky as i remember mine. these aren't typos but horrible conceptual errors. and i wasn't even trying to look for mistakes. ways to go still.

[southindian]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

Max, you are truly out of touch. A lot.

I visit Tamil Nadu 3+ times a year and the state has changed over the years since your 1980s, early 90s days.

You need to visit TN more often so you can provide correct information to SuCHers..... Or you can just Google.

This is an old article from 2009 and things have changed since then.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VE9JQkcvMjAwOS8wMi8wMyNBcjAxMTAx

BK, the kids learning Hindi in TN today are not unfit in 2014 TN. In addition they find themselves easy to go along in Karnataka, Kerala and Andra areas.

i am not out of touch. it has always been this way and this is what i've been saying all along.  what tamilians object to is preachiness from northindians such as yourself. tamilians will learn the languages they need to, as they always have, because it is in their economic interest to do so, and it enriches their lives.  

by contrast those from northindia who live for decades in TN and karnataka working at institutes like the IIT or the central leather research institute, never learn tamil or kannada and communicate with local vegetable vendors and household help through sign language. that said, the women are a little better than the men. some of them immigrate to the US and never learn english, you being a case in point.

Wrong again. I know Punjabi sardars, Assamese and people from other northindian states living in TN speaking tamil as good anyone else.

Tamil does not belong to any particular southindian. Nobody owns the language or state Tamil Nadu.

You are just too out of touch with ground realities in TN. You are stuck in past time and can't come out of it.

[Kayalvizhi]

Wrong again. I know Punjabi sardars, Assamese and people from other northindian states living in TN speaking tamil as good anyone else.

Tamil does not belong to any particular southindian. Nobody owns the language or state Tamil Nadu.

You are just too out of touch with ground realities in TN. You are stuck in past time and can't come out of it.

>> I know Punjabi sardars, Assamese and people from other northindian states living in TN speaking tamil as good anyone else.

I don't think they speak as good as anyone else, but many Punjabis and Assamese do speak some Tamil. I think Max may be referring to Hindians when he said nothindians.
Hindians of BIMAEU are the only problem immigrants


>>Tamil does not belong to any particular southindian. Nobody owns the language or state Tamil Nadu.

Tamil and Tamilnadu belong to Tamils. Others can learn Tamil, use Tamil, teach Tamil. Others can live in TB with permission from TN gocernment

[Seva Lamberdar]

i didn't realize there are kannada, telugu, and urdu medium schools under the TN state board, in addition to tamil and english medium schools!

http://www.textbooksonline.tn.nic.in/Std10.htm

and the languages one can study instead of tamil include kannada, telugu, sanskrit, malayalam, and urdu.

adding insult to injury lol.

This way they can read / write Hindi in the (modified) Persian / Farsi script.... don't have to use the Devanagri script all the time.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

haha, i know this thread has now set off cut and paste diarrhea man.

[goodcitizn]

A few months back while I was visiting my cousin in Chennai I was surprised to find that her son took Hindi and daughter took Sanskrit in school. I was miffed that the kids weren't taking Tamil. Her sorry explanation was her kids took those languages in order to get good grades. "In  public exams, my children stand no chance competing against kids from the rurual areas in Tamil," was her comment.

It had nothing to do with learning a link language or improving job prospects. Just grades.

[Kayalvizhi]

Tamil teachers are misers in giving grades. Grades in Tamil, Sanskrit, Hindi, French should be normalized so that techers misery do not affect grades.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

Tamil teachers are misers in giving grades. Grades in Tamil, Sanskrit, Hindi, French should be normalized so that techers misery do not affect grades.

right. this is one reason students opt for non-tamil languages -- to score high marks in the public exam. for students who were applying to pilani this was a significant problem because they considered the total marks in grade 12, not just math, physics, and chem.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

on top of the public exam, in grades 8, 10, and 12 i remember writing an exam called thamizh mandra thervu. this was the real test of one's command over tamil.  the actual public exam was a piece of cake compared to the mandra thervu which was a tough exam. if you scored well in that exam, it was a given you were going to ace the public exam.

[Kayalvizhi]

>> thamizh mandra thervu'

Is it compulsory? Do the grades count towards anything>

It is a private exam, not offered by the board.

[MaxEntropy_Man]

>> thamizh mandra thervu'

Is it compulsory? Do the grades count towards anything>

It is a private exam, not offered by the board.

no the grades don't count towards anything, but i wrote it all three years and did well.

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