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Post by harharmahadev Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:40 pm

Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

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Post by Hellsangel Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:49 pm

Let's start with yours.
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:53 pm

harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

yeh tumhari purani trick hai... Evil or Very Mad you will use the handle's name, and append 'ki gaa** pe'.. and then append the movie name... last time u got me with 'rs-k ki G** pe padosan'

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Post by harharmahadev Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:01 pm

Tracy Whitney wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

yeh tumhari purani trick hai... Evil or Very Mad you will use the handle's name, and append 'ki gaa** pe'.. and then append the movie name... last time u got me with 'rs-k ki G** pe padosan'

hehe! You ruined it for me!

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Post by artood2 Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:18 pm

harharmahadev wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

yeh tumhari purani trick hai... Evil or Very Mad you will use the handle's name, and append 'ki gaa** pe'.. and then append the movie name... last time u got me with 'rs-k ki G** pe padosan'

hehe! You ruined it for me!



you are very creative.
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:19 pm

here - for fun

http://forums.sulekha.com/forums/coffeehouse/innovating-brigg-myers-personality-assessment-test-788238.htm

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:22 pm

harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

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Post by harharmahadev Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:24 pm

seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

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The Notebook

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That's good. That's good...I need more responses.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:26 pm

seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

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The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

rofl

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:34 pm

seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

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The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

clap Shaven! rofl lol!

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Post by artood2 Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:44 pm

Hellsangel wrote:Let's start with yours.



Let me guess harharmahadev's favorite: King Kong and Godzilla.
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:45 pm

@ tracy and dickhead

wats funny ?

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:46 pm

seven wrote:@ tracy and dickhead

wats funny ?

dunno about dk, I was laughing on your joke.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:50 pm

Tracy Whitney wrote:
seven wrote:@ tracy and dickhead

wats funny ?

dunno about dk, I was laughing on your joke.

donno wat u r calling a joke. they r my fav movies.

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Post by harharmahadev Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:51 pm

seven wrote:@ tracy and dickhead

wats funny ?

Don't pay any attention to them! They are nutcases. I will give u feedback in an hour or so after I get some more responses.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:52 pm

how was ur cruise 7?

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Post by garam_kuta Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:52 pm

Richard Hed wrote:
seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

clap Shaven! rofl lol!
Richard Hed wrote:

Bittu w/o you-know-what
TAZ w/o hyperboles
Charvaka w/o common sense
Impy w/o daily rants r us
Shaven w/o brains. Wait - take that back - wrong analogy Smile

er..today you are dr. J or Mr. H(y)ed confused

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:56 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

clap Shaven! rofl lol!
Richard Hed wrote:

Bittu w/o you-know-what
TAZ w/o hyperboles
Charvaka w/o common sense
Impy w/o daily rants r us
Shaven w/o brains. Wait - take that back - wrong analogy Smile

er..today you are dr. J or Mr. H(y)ed confused

HotDog - don't bother. Smile

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Post by artood2 Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:57 pm

Richard Hed wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

Psycho analysis using movie name! 459784477 Shaven! Psycho analysis using movie name! 3077217049 lol!
Richard Hed wrote:

Bittu w/o you-know-what
TAZ w/o hyperboles
Charvaka w/o common sense
Impy w/o daily rants r us
Shaven w/o brains. Wait - take that back - wrong analogy Smile

er..today you are dr. J or Mr. H(y)ed confused



HotDog - don't bother. Smile






DKH w/o the smile


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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:59 pm

Richard Hed wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
Richard Hed wrote:
seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

Psycho analysis using movie name! 459784477 Shaven! Psycho analysis using movie name! 3077217049 lol!
Richard Hed wrote:

Bittu w/o you-know-what
TAZ w/o hyperboles
Charvaka w/o common sense
Impy w/o daily rants r us
Shaven w/o brains. Wait - take that back - wrong analogy Smile

er..today you are dr. J or Mr. H(y)ed confused

HotDog - don't bother. Smile

u think i am w/o brain then u r wrong and idk who is dr. J and mr. hed
wat r u talkin abt scratch

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:59 pm

seven wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
seven wrote:@ tracy and dickhead

wats funny ?

dunno about dk, I was laughing on your joke.

donno wat u r calling a joke. they r my fav movies.

Seven, all you had to do was to read all the posts - after the first post - which takes max 2 mins - to know what DesiChatter was upto!

Check out the Sulekha CH link as well that TW gave.

Did you read that or not? If so, you still decided to post your fav movies?!

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:01 pm

harharmahadev wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

yeh tumhari purani trick hai... Evil or Very Mad you will use the handle's name, and append 'ki gaa** pe'.. and then append the movie name... last time u got me with 'rs-k ki G** pe padosan'

hehe! You ruined it for me!

if u r going to do this instead of a psychoanalysis like u promised, then tumhari GPL

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Post by Impedimenta Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:01 pm

harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.



No, i absolutely will not! this is a preposterous request, i'll say.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:03 pm

Richard Hed wrote:
seven wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
seven wrote:@ tracy and dickhead

wats funny ?

dunno about dk, I was laughing on your joke.

donno wat u r calling a joke. they r my fav movies.

Seven, all you had to do was to read all the posts - after the first post - which takes max 2 mins - to know what DesiChatter was upto!

Check out the Sulekha CH link as well that TW gave.

Did you read that or not? If so, you still decided to post your fav movies?!

i didnt read that b4 i posted. most of the time i respond to original post first if i like the post then read other people.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:03 pm

seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

yeh tumhari purani trick hai... Evil or Very Mad you will use the handle's name, and append 'ki gaa** pe'.. and then append the movie name... last time u got me with 'rs-k ki G** pe padosan'

hehe! You ruined it for me!

if u r going to do this instead of a psychoanalysis like u promised, then tumhari GPL

There ya go! Real clap now Smile

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Post by artood2 Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:08 pm

seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

yeh tumhari purani trick hai... Evil or Very Mad you will use the handle's name, and append 'ki gaa** pe'.. and then append the movie name... last time u got me with 'rs-k ki G** pe padosan'

hehe! You ruined it for me!

if u r going to do this instead of a psychoanalysis like u promised, then tumhari GPL



Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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Post by Mosquito Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:50 pm

seven wrote:

if u r going to do this instead of a psychoanalysis like u promised, then tumhari GPL

What's GPL?
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Post by harharmahadev Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:57 pm

seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

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Seven ki gaand pe dip chahta hai.
Seven ki Gaand pe the notebook.

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:12 pm

harharmahadev wrote:
seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

Seven ki gaand pe dip chahta hai.
Seven ki Gaand pe the notebook.

so lame. wat r u? a FY bekaam b.com major 8-|

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:14 pm

PseudoIntellectual wrote:
seven wrote:

if u r going to do this instead of a psychoanalysis like u promised, then tumhari GPL

What's GPL?

L is for laat and the other two words i dont use. read harharmahadev's post for hint.

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Post by harharmahadev Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:20 pm

seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:
seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

Seven ki gaand pe dip chahta hai.
Seven ki Gaand pe the notebook.

so lame. wat r u? a FY bekaam b.com major 8-|

he he!!

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Post by artood2 Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:32 pm

harharmahadev wrote:
seven wrote:
harharmahadev wrote:Please name your favorite movie. I need just one name. There is a chart out there to map your personality to the name of the movie. But I don't want to disclose details before I get input from a bunch of people. Please respond with your favorite hindi movie and english movie. TIA.

Dil Chahta Hai
The Notebook

wat does it tell abt me ?

Seven ki gaand pe dip chahta hai.
Seven ki Gaand pe the notebook.



you are so phunny.
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Post by Another Brick Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:11 am

reminds me of the laughs we used to have when in school. there was a movie hall in my town with the name of Vaishali Cinema. boys used to ask each other "Vaishali ko kya laga hain?"* and the answer would be "shahenshah," "khuddar," "aaj ka arjun," "mr india" etc. that sounded much funnier in marathi.

* marathified hindi

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Post by harharmahadev Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:56 am

You can add <user> ki gaand pe <anything> and it will sound funny.

For e.g.

Seven ki gaand pe L is for laat and the other two words i dont use. read harharmahadev's post for hint

Artood2 ki gaand pe you are so phunny.

Another Brick ki gaand reminds me of the laughs we used to have when in school.

It's easy!!

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:05 am

Actually I like

<fortune cookie> in the bed much funnier. In this case:

Artood2 you are so phunny in the bed

Another Brick reminds me of the laughs we used to have when in school in the bed.

Seven, dil chahta hai in the bed. Notebook in the bed.




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Post by harharmahadev Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:09 am

Tracy Whitney wrote:Actually I like

in the bed much funnier. In this case:

Artood2 you are so phunny in the bed

Another Brick reminds me of the laughs we used to have when in school in the bed.

Seven, dil chahta hai in the bed. Notebook in the bed.




That's good too.

Albert Einstein doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results in the bed.

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:17 am

harharmahadev wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:Actually I like

in the bed much funnier. In this case:

Artood2 you are so phunny in the bed

Another Brick reminds me of the laughs we used to have when in school in the bed.

Seven, dil chahta hai in the bed. Notebook in the bed.




That's good too.

Albert Einstein doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results in the bed.

lol!

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Post by artood2 Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:14 pm

harharmahadev wrote:You can add ki gaand pe and it will sound funny.

For e.g.

Seven ki gaand pe L is for laat and the other two words i dont use. read harharmahadev's post for hint

Artood2 ki gaand pe you are so phunny.

Another Brick ki gaand reminds me of the laughs we used to have when in school.

It's easy!!



harharamahadev ki g*** pe It's easy.
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Post by artood2 Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:14 pm

harharmahadev wrote:
Tracy Whitney wrote:Actually I like

in the bed much funnier. In this case:

Artood2 you are so phunny in the bed

Another Brick reminds me of the laughs we used to have when in school in the bed.

Seven, dil chahta hai in the bed. Notebook in the bed.




That's good too.

Albert Einstein doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results in the bed.



Now that's a good one.
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Post by Kayalvizhi Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:23 pm

veera pandiya kattapomman



poompukaaar

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Post by Guest Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:26 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:veera pandiya kattapomman



It's veera pandya kattabommana (same letter for ba and pa in tamil?)



poompukaaar



Again, it's poompuhaar (same letter for ka and ha? Why aren't there more letters in tamil? There's always so much distortion)

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:00 am

kandhi was a kreat man, aiyyo!
handhi was a hreat man, aiyyo! aiyyo!

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:19 am

[quote="kinnera"]
Kayalvizhi wrote:veera pandiya kattapomman



It's veera pandya kattabommana (same letter for ba and pa in tamil?)



poompukaaar




It's veera pandya kattabommana (same letter for ba and pa in tamil?)




Again, it's poompuhaar (same letter for ka and ha? Why aren't there more letters in tamil? There's always so much distortion)

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Post by Guest Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:44 am

got up on the wrong side of bed kinnu?

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:48 pm

kinnera wrote:
Again, it's poompuhaar (same letter for ka and ha? Why aren't there more letters in tamil? There's always so much distortion)

most indian languages don't have the 'zha' sound or the guttural sound produced by the aitha ezhuththu in thamizh. yet we don't think of it as a limitation. most languages don't have the clicking sound characteristic of some african languages. so why single thamizh out?

in any case the modern thamizh script does have letters for "ja" and "ha"; except they are made up letters and not part of the original alphabet. while some puritans object to using those letters, i don't.
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Post by SomeProfile Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:03 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
kinnera wrote:
Again, it's poompuhaar (same letter for ka and ha? Why aren't there more letters in tamil? There's always so much distortion)

most indian languages don't have the 'zha' sound or the guttural sound produced by the aitha ezhuththu in thamizh. yet we don't think of it as a limitation. most languages don't have the clicking sound characteristic of some african languages. so why single thamizh out?

I am surprised that you are asking this question. The number of Tamizh sounds missing in Sanskrit is MUCH lower than the number of Sanskrit sounds missing in Tamizh. In fact, even English has more Sanskritic sounds than Tamizh does. This simple fact would have been obvious to a thoughtful person like you, if you did not have a few blind spots (Eg: Tamizh and Hindutva).

Before I go further, let me state that it is indeed a limitation of other languages that they are not equipped to adequately spell such beautiful names of Tamizh-origin as Kanimozhi, Malarvizhi, etc. At the same time, it is a limitation of Tamizh that it absolutely murders many non-Tamizh proper nouns that absolutely need accurate distinctions in pronunciation. Eg: The Sanskrit-origin names Bharata, Paartha, Ananda and Sudhaakara. Tamizh has just a SINGLE letter for the FOUR DISTINCT sounds in these names: ta, tha, da, dha respectively.

Now a staunch Tamizhian might argue that a single Tamizh letter is enough to adequately pronounce all four Sanskrit names I mentioned above, but such a Tamizhian would be a blind Tamizhian.

Unfortunately for Tamizh, the number of times other languages need the 'zha' sound is significantly lower than the number of times Tamizh needs distinctive letters for distinctive sounds of other languages. Hence, the frequency of people complaining about Tamizh's limitations is understandably and correctly higher.

HTH.

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SomeProfile wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
kinnera wrote:
Again, it's poompuhaar (same letter for ka and ha? Why aren't there more letters in tamil? There's always so much distortion)

most indian languages don't have the 'zha' sound or the guttural sound produced by the aitha ezhuththu in thamizh. yet we don't think of it as a limitation. most languages don't have the clicking sound characteristic of some african languages. so why single thamizh out?

I am surprised that you are asking this question. The number of Tamizh sounds missing in Sanskrit is MUCH lower than the number of Sanskrit sounds missing in Tamizh. In fact, even English has more Sanskritic sounds than Tamizh does. This simple fact would have been obvious to a thoughtful person like you, if you did not have a few blind spots (Eg: Tamizh and Hindutva).

Before I go further, let me state that it is indeed a limitation of other languages that they are not equipped to adequately spell such beautiful names of Tamizh-origin as Kanimozhi, Malarvizhi, etc. At the same time, it is a limitation of Tamizh that it absolutely murders many non-Tamizh proper nouns that absolutely need accurate distinctions in pronunciation. Eg: The Sanskrit-origin names Bharata, Paartha, Ananda and Sudhaakara. Tamizh has just a SINGLE letter for the FOUR DISTINCT sounds in these names: ta, tha, da, dha respectively.

Now a staunch Tamizhian might argue that a single Tamizh letter is enough to adequately pronounce all four Sanskrit names I mentioned above, but such a Tamizhian would be a blind Tamizhian.

Unfortunately for Tamizh, the number of times other languages need the 'zha' sound is significantly lower than the number of times Tamizh needs distinctive letters for distinctive sounds of other languages. Hence, the frequency of people complaining about Tamizh's limitations is understandably and correctly higher.

HTH.

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Post by garam_kuta Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:30 am

garam_kuta wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
kinnera wrote:
Again, it's poompuhaar (same letter for ka and ha? Why aren't there more letters in tamil? There's always so much distortion)

most indian languages don't have the 'zha' sound or the guttural sound produced by the aitha ezhuththu in thamizh. yet we don't think of it as a limitation. most languages don't have the clicking sound characteristic of some african languages. so why single thamizh out?

I am surprised that you are asking this question. The number of Tamizh sounds missing in Sanskrit is MUCH lower than the number of Sanskrit sounds missing in Tamizh. In fact, even English has more Sanskritic sounds than Tamizh does. This simple fact would have been obvious to a thoughtful person like you, if you did not have a few blind spots (Eg: Tamizh and Hindutva).

Before I go further, let me state that it is indeed a limitation of other languages that they are not equipped to adequately spell such beautiful names of Tamizh-origin as Kanimozhi, Malarvizhi, etc. At the same time, it is a limitation of Tamizh that it absolutely murders many non-Tamizh proper nouns that absolutely need accurate distinctions in pronunciation. Eg: The Sanskrit-origin names Bharata, Paartha, Ananda and Sudhaakara. Tamizh has just a SINGLE letter for the FOUR DISTINCT sounds in these names: ta, tha, da, dha respectively.

Now a staunch Tamizhian might argue that a single Tamizh letter is enough to adequately pronounce all four Sanskrit names I mentioned above, but such a Tamizhian would be a blind Tamizhian.

Unfortunately for Tamizh, the number of times other languages need the 'zha' sound is significantly lower than the number of times Tamizh needs distinctive letters for distinctive sounds of other languages. Hence, the frequency of people complaining about Tamizh's limitations is understandably and correctly higher.

HTH.

WOW..all this from your translator Psycho analysis using movie name! 459784477

and that's a alot of internalization from a translator Psycho analysis using movie name! 459784477 but there is always more to learn i guess

perhaps (s)he could start with : http://tamilnation.co/literature/geetha.htm

>>>you say..Tamizh has just a SINGLE letter for the FOUR DISTINCT sounds in these names: ta, tha, da, dha ...

vallina letters sound variations

Unlike other Indian languages, Tamil has single
glyphs for ka, cha, ta, tha, pa, Ra. But their sounds
vary depending on the context where they occur.
They have normal sound while occurring in the
beginning of a word, strong sound when preceded
by their consonants, soft sound while occurring in
the middle of a word and a special sound when
preceded by their ina ezhuthukkaL ங், ஞ், ண், ந், ம் and ன்.

kappal - ka (when comes at the beginning of a word)
akkaaL - (when preceded by its consonant க்)
thangam - ga (when comes in words preceded by ங்)
pahal - ha (when occurs in the middle of a word
without prefixing ங் or க்
Same thing happens with ச ட* த ப ற letters also


* that's for your ta, tha, da, dha etc.,
Like most ancient languages, tamil also is a bit intutive, I should think


HTH for you and your translator Cool


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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:46 am

SomeProfile wrote: At the same time, it is a limitation of Tamizh that it absolutely murders many non-Tamizh proper nouns that absolutely need accurate distinctions in pronunciation.

murdering of proper nouns has been going on for ages between speakers of indian languages. i don't think thamizh speakers are particularly unique. haven't you heard northindian english newsreaders absolutely murder v.r.nedunchezhian's name, while in the same newscast pronounce francois mitterand perfectly, accent at the right places and all?

wrt your other comments:

i reproduce below with some modifications a post of mine from elsewhere:

here's how to resolve the perceived ambiguity or what you folks have
called missing consonants. the hard consonants ka(ga), cha (sa), ta(da),
tha (dha), pa(ba), Ra are called vallinams.
the soft consonants (mellinam) are ngya, nga, three variations of na
and ma and the intermediate consonants (idayinam) are ya, ra, la, va,
zha, La. the so called ambiguity arises only in the use of the hard
consonants (vallinams). the way to resolve when to use ka, cha, ta and tha and when to use the variants is detailed below:

1) when the letter occurs at the beginning of a word as in kAdu, use the first variant (in this case ka).

2) when the letter occurs after a meiyezhutthu (a dotted letter which is
used to create stress, i.e. the half-matra variant) as in pAkku, use
the first variant (in this case the ku occurs after the half-matra 'k'
the meiyyezhutthu).

3) in all other instances use the second variant. example nAdu (not
nAtu). the Ra has another variant ra but it is not counted as a vallinam but as an idayinam and the rules are very clear for use of ra versus Ra, so that's a different discussion altogether.

illustrative examples:

1) pachchai versus pasu ('cha' following half-matra 'ch' versus freely occurring 'sa' in the middle of a word)
2) pokkai versus pagai ('ka' following half-matra 'k' versus freely occurring 'ga' in the middle of a word)
3) paththu versus pAdhi. ('tha' versus 'dha'; same difference as above two examples)
4) kAli (not gAli) versus pagai ('ka' versus 'ga'; 'ka' at the beginning of a word versus 'ga' in the middle of a word)

etc.

there are probably exceptions but generally these rules apply.
exceptions are more likely to occur in words borrowed from other
languages including sanskrit.

reasonable people can disagree, but i find this to be a case of a
self-consistent set of rules obviating the need for extra letters to
represent consonants, rather than a lack of consonants.

HTH



p.s: may i request you to either write the name of our language as tamil or thamizh (not tamizh which sounds rather like something in urdu)?
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Post by charvaka Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:50 am

garam_kuta wrote:
garam_kuta wrote:
SomeProfile wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
kinnera wrote:
Again, it's poompuhaar (same letter for ka and ha? Why aren't there more letters in tamil? There's always so much distortion)

most indian languages don't have the 'zha' sound or the guttural sound produced by the aitha ezhuththu in thamizh. yet we don't think of it as a limitation. most languages don't have the clicking sound characteristic of some african languages. so why single thamizh out?

I am surprised that you are asking this question. The number of Tamizh sounds missing in Sanskrit is MUCH lower than the number of Sanskrit sounds missing in Tamizh. In fact, even English has more Sanskritic sounds than Tamizh does. This simple fact would have been obvious to a thoughtful person like you, if you did not have a few blind spots (Eg: Tamizh and Hindutva).

Before I go further, let me state that it is indeed a limitation of other languages that they are not equipped to adequately spell such beautiful names of Tamizh-origin as Kanimozhi, Malarvizhi, etc. At the same time, it is a limitation of Tamizh that it absolutely murders many non-Tamizh proper nouns that absolutely need accurate distinctions in pronunciation. Eg: The Sanskrit-origin names Bharata, Paartha, Ananda and Sudhaakara. Tamizh has just a SINGLE letter for the FOUR DISTINCT sounds in these names: ta, tha, da, dha respectively.

Now a staunch Tamizhian might argue that a single Tamizh letter is enough to adequately pronounce all four Sanskrit names I mentioned above, but such a Tamizhian would be a blind Tamizhian.

Unfortunately for Tamizh, the number of times other languages need the 'zha' sound is significantly lower than the number of times Tamizh needs distinctive letters for distinctive sounds of other languages. Hence, the frequency of people complaining about Tamizh's limitations is understandably and correctly higher.

HTH.

WOW..all this from your translator Psycho analysis using movie name! 459784477

and that's a alot of internalization from a translator Psycho analysis using movie name! 459784477 but there is always more to learn i guess

perhaps (s)he could start with : http://tamilnation.co/literature/geetha.htm

>>>you say..Tamizh has just a SINGLE letter for the FOUR DISTINCT sounds in these names: ta, tha, da, dha ...

vallina letters sound variations

Unlike other Indian languages, Tamil has single
glyphs for ka, cha, ta, tha, pa, Ra. But their sounds
vary depending on the context where they occur.
They have normal sound while occurring in the
beginning of a word, strong sound when preceded
by their consonants, soft sound while occurring in
the middle of a word and a special sound when
preceded by their ina ezhuthukkaL ங், ஞ், ண், ந், ம் and ன்.

kappal - ka (when comes at the beginning of a word)
akkaaL - (when preceded by its consonant க்)
thangam - ga (when comes in words preceded by ங்)
pahal - ha (when occurs in the middle of a word
without prefixing ங் or க்
Same thing happens with ச ட* த ப ற letters also


* that's for your ta, tha, da, dha etc.,
Like most ancient languages, tamil also is a bit intutive, I should think


HTH for you and your translator Cool
This scheme works with native Tamil words, if they never require a ga sound pronounced at the beginning of a word. But once Tamil started exchanging words with Sanskrit, it needed to broaden its alphabet to it could accommodate such words. Max mentioned additional letters being created -- that's the right approach to improve clarity.
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