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Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by Guest Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:07 am
First, the Marathas only ever wanted a Marathi kingdom for themselves. It was not unified, hardly akhand and never Hindu. The Marathas were despised by other Hindu rulers, and disliked by non-Marathi Hindus as well, as history shows us.
Bajirao and the Marathas campaigned for one thing alone, and it was called chauth. It meant a fourth of all revenue from other kingdoms, no matter what the faith of king and subject, and at collecting this Bajirao and the rest were efficient.
Maratha extortion caused Jaipur’s Ishwari Singh to commit suicide in December 1750....
The Marathas first invaded Bengal in 1742. Of their behaviour, the New Cambridge History of India tells us that “all authorities, both Indian and European are agreed”. A contemporary writer calls them “slayers of pregnant women and infants” and Sarkar has recorded their gang-rape of Hindu women, inexplicably stuffing the mouths of their victims with dust and breaking their arms and tying them behind their backs. The only Indian to try and protect his subjects against the Marathas incidentally, was the Mughal governor Ali Vardi Khan.
As the Mughal fighting ability and finances (the two being interchangeable) declined after Aurangzeb, the Marathas began penetrating increasingly into hitherto unknown territory in the north. It was the young Bajirao, then only in his teens, who determined, rightly, in one of these raids that the Mughals had gone soft and could no longer defend the realm.
From this point on, the Marathas began holding ground instead of just taking their horses back. It is why we see Marathi names like Holkar and Scindia and Gaekwad in parts of India they do not naturally belong. Everyone grabbed what they could and held onto it, there was no Hindu or Bharat angle to any of it.
Bajirao had one good battlefield victory, against Chin Qilich Khan, first Nizam of Hyderabad. It was a positional win, meaning the arrangement of Bajirao’s force gave no space for Khan and he gave up without much fighting. Like chess. A similar situation came in Panipat, when Abdali positioned the Marathas out. Bravely, the Marathas chose to fight and were slaughtered. Scindia (Jyotiraditya’s ancestor) and Holkar, it may interest the reader, fled the field, and the man who helped Abdali with supplies ensuring his win was Ala Singh. Abdali rewarded him by making him Maharaja of Patiala, Captain Amarinder Singh’s ancestor.
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/aakarvani/bajirao-the-great-hindu-nationalist-thats-only-in-the-movies/
Bajirao and the Marathas campaigned for one thing alone, and it was called chauth. It meant a fourth of all revenue from other kingdoms, no matter what the faith of king and subject, and at collecting this Bajirao and the rest were efficient.
Maratha extortion caused Jaipur’s Ishwari Singh to commit suicide in December 1750....
The Marathas first invaded Bengal in 1742. Of their behaviour, the New Cambridge History of India tells us that “all authorities, both Indian and European are agreed”. A contemporary writer calls them “slayers of pregnant women and infants” and Sarkar has recorded their gang-rape of Hindu women, inexplicably stuffing the mouths of their victims with dust and breaking their arms and tying them behind their backs. The only Indian to try and protect his subjects against the Marathas incidentally, was the Mughal governor Ali Vardi Khan.
As the Mughal fighting ability and finances (the two being interchangeable) declined after Aurangzeb, the Marathas began penetrating increasingly into hitherto unknown territory in the north. It was the young Bajirao, then only in his teens, who determined, rightly, in one of these raids that the Mughals had gone soft and could no longer defend the realm.
From this point on, the Marathas began holding ground instead of just taking their horses back. It is why we see Marathi names like Holkar and Scindia and Gaekwad in parts of India they do not naturally belong. Everyone grabbed what they could and held onto it, there was no Hindu or Bharat angle to any of it.
Bajirao had one good battlefield victory, against Chin Qilich Khan, first Nizam of Hyderabad. It was a positional win, meaning the arrangement of Bajirao’s force gave no space for Khan and he gave up without much fighting. Like chess. A similar situation came in Panipat, when Abdali positioned the Marathas out. Bravely, the Marathas chose to fight and were slaughtered. Scindia (Jyotiraditya’s ancestor) and Holkar, it may interest the reader, fled the field, and the man who helped Abdali with supplies ensuring his win was Ala Singh. Abdali rewarded him by making him Maharaja of Patiala, Captain Amarinder Singh’s ancestor.
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/aakarvani/bajirao-the-great-hindu-nationalist-thats-only-in-the-movies/
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by Guest Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:13 am
I wish to add two points to what Aakar Patel has written:
1. Marathas made military incursions into modern Karnataka and would unhesitatingly plunder hindu temples. They even attempted to plunder the Sringeri Sankaracharya mutt and retreated after they were outfought by Tipu Sultan who sent his soldiers to protect the Sringeri Sankaracharya mutt.
2. In Tamil Nadu, just behind the main structure of the Brihadeeswara temple in Thanjavur, there is a kind of a courtyard with small sculptures and wall paintings. The wall paintings are interesting because many of them are not the original paintings of the temple; the marathas painted over many of the original paintings. Secondly, there is a wall here with engraving on it; this engraving is in Marathi. I felt sad to see this, but then i remembered that even the original temple had been built through wealth generated by the Cholas through conquests.
1. Marathas made military incursions into modern Karnataka and would unhesitatingly plunder hindu temples. They even attempted to plunder the Sringeri Sankaracharya mutt and retreated after they were outfought by Tipu Sultan who sent his soldiers to protect the Sringeri Sankaracharya mutt.
2. In Tamil Nadu, just behind the main structure of the Brihadeeswara temple in Thanjavur, there is a kind of a courtyard with small sculptures and wall paintings. The wall paintings are interesting because many of them are not the original paintings of the temple; the marathas painted over many of the original paintings. Secondly, there is a wall here with engraving on it; this engraving is in Marathi. I felt sad to see this, but then i remembered that even the original temple had been built through wealth generated by the Cholas through conquests.
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by ashdoc Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:53 am
what is the need to bring up all this ?? the movie is more about the romance between bajirao and mastani and the problems created in bajirao's household due to to his second marriage . it seems you and aakar patel want hindu rulers banned from screens and only muslim rulers to be shown in films .
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by Guest Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:34 am
ashdoc wrote:what is the need to bring up all this ?? the movie is more about the romance between bajirao and mastani and the problems created in bajirao's household due to to his second marriage . it seems you and aakar patel want hindu rulers banned from screens and only muslim rulers to be shown in films .
Aakar Patel's article is not about any movie. It is about Indian history.
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by ashdoc Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:40 am
then why does he say he wont watch the movie ?? and the timing is around the release of the movie---what coincidence !!Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:what is the need to bring up all this ?? the movie is more about the romance between bajirao and mastani and the problems created in bajirao's household due to to his second marriage . it seems you and aakar patel want hindu rulers banned from screens and only muslim rulers to be shown in films .
Aakar Patel's article is not about any movie. It is about Indian history.
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by Guest Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:43 am
ashdoc wrote:then why does he say he wont watch the movie ?? and the timing is around the release of the movie---what coincidence !!Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:what is the need to bring up all this ?? the movie is more about the romance between bajirao and mastani and the problems created in bajirao's household due to to his second marriage . it seems you and aakar patel want hindu rulers banned from screens and only muslim rulers to be shown in films .
Aakar Patel's article is not about any movie. It is about Indian history.
because he is very selective when it comes to watching movies. as he writes:
I have not seen the movie, nor do I intend to (only one Gujarati makes the cut as director of watchable pap and that is neither Sanjay Leela Bhansali nor Sajid Nadiadwala, but Manmohan Desai, a true master).
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by ashdoc Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:47 am
then it is about the movie , isn't it....Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:then why does he say he wont watch the movie ?? and the timing is around the release of the movie---what coincidence !!Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:what is the need to bring up all this ?? the movie is more about the romance between bajirao and mastani and the problems created in bajirao's household due to to his second marriage . it seems you and aakar patel want hindu rulers banned from screens and only muslim rulers to be shown in films .
Aakar Patel's article is not about any movie. It is about Indian history.
because he is very selective when it comes to watching movies. as he writes:
I have not seen the movie, nor do I intend to (only one Gujarati makes the cut as director of watchable pap and that is neither Sanjay Leela Bhansali nor Sajid Nadiadwala, but Manmohan Desai, a true master).
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by Guest Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:54 am
ashdoc wrote:then it is about the movie , isn't it....Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:then why does he say he wont watch the movie ?? and the timing is around the release of the movie---what coincidence !!Rashmun wrote:ashdoc wrote:what is the need to bring up all this ?? the movie is more about the romance between bajirao and mastani and the problems created in bajirao's household due to to his second marriage . it seems you and aakar patel want hindu rulers banned from screens and only muslim rulers to be shown in films .
Aakar Patel's article is not about any movie. It is about Indian history.
because he is very selective when it comes to watching movies. as he writes:
I have not seen the movie, nor do I intend to (only one Gujarati makes the cut as director of watchable pap and that is neither Sanjay Leela Bhansali nor Sajid Nadiadwala, but Manmohan Desai, a true master).
No, it is about Indian history. After giving historical facts he concludes the article with the following words:
Can you spot any Hindu or nationalist angle to any of it? No, because it exists only in the movies.
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by ashdoc Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:09 am
The timing is too obvious, rashmun.
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by Merlot Daruwala Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:33 am
ashdoc wrote:The timing is too obvious, rashmun.
Yeah. It is clear to even a blind person that Sweta Kaushal made all those grandiose claims in her review timed with the release, just to provide Aakar Patel and Rashmun an opportunity to spit venom at yet another Hindu ruler.
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Re: Aakar Patel's brilliant article about Marathas
by ashdoc Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:46 am
She was talking about the film , aakar was searching for a chance to attack any film showing hindu kingdoms in glorious light.
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