Blast in Pakistan

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:03 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/03/27/bomb-blast-pakistan-park/82320644/

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:36 pm

Kinnera wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/03/27/bomb-blast-pakistan-park/82320644/

Notice how all the iSlamo-apologists and anti-hindus are DEAD SILENT on this...

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:45 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Kinnera wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/03/27/bomb-blast-pakistan-park/82320644/

Notice how all the iSlamo-apologists and anti-hindus are DEAD SILENT on this...

it is unclear who is responsible for this and what is the motive. Only an irresponsible monkey will jump to conclusions and start finger pointing in a nervous fidgety manner. A wise person will sit back and wait for more information to emerge before concluding what has happened, why it has happened, and who is responsible for this.

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:52 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Kinnera wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/03/27/bomb-blast-pakistan-park/82320644/

Notice how all the iSlamo-apologists and anti-hindus are DEAD SILENT on this...

it is unclear who is responsible for this and what is the motive. Only an irresponsible monkey will jump to conclusions and start finger pointing in a nervous fidgety manner. A wise person will sit back and wait for more information to emerge before concluding what has happened, why it has happened, and who is responsible for this.

yeah...chuddies could have done it.

by truthbetold Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:53 pm

Rash,

You are dead wrong in this case. Pakistan Taliban has already claimed the credit. Even if you do not know which jehadi group did this, what difference does that make? Unless brain dead jehadi apologists on this forum think somehow India or modi set off these bombers. Is that what RAHUL is telling you?

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:54 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Kinnera wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/03/27/bomb-blast-pakistan-park/82320644/

Notice how all the iSlamo-apologists and anti-hindus are DEAD SILENT on this...

Islamophobia is to be blamed. Those damn Pakistani christian minorities must've been scared of the muslim majority and hence needed to be bombed.

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:58 pm

truthbetold wrote:Rash,

You are dead wrong in this case. Pakistan Taliban has already claimed the credit. Even if you do not know which jehadi group did this, what difference does that make? Unless brain dead jehadi apologists on this forum think somehow India or modi set off these bombers. Is that what RAHUL is telling you?

any mischievous person or people can falsely claim to represent some organization and then claim responsibility. More facts need to emerge about the motive for why this was done.

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:59 pm

Kinnera wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Kinnera wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/03/27/bomb-blast-pakistan-park/82320644/

Notice how all the iSlamo-apologists and anti-hindus are DEAD SILENT on this...

it is unclear who is responsible for this and what is the motive. Only an irresponsible monkey will jump to conclusions and start finger pointing in a nervous fidgety manner. A wise person will sit back and wait for more information to emerge before concluding what has happened, why it has happened, and who is responsible for this.
yeah...chuddies could have done it.

Swami Aseemanand, a key figure in the Hindutva terror network, who was arrested by the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) from Haridwar in November, has admitted to having planned terror attacks on Ajmer Sharif, Mecca Masjid, Malegaon and the Samjhauta Express.

In his confession, recorded under Section 164 of the Criminal Procedure Code before Metropolitan Magistrate Deepak Dabas at Tis Hazari courts on December 18, the arrested Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) leader confessed that he and other Hindu activists were involved in bombings at Muslim religious places because they wanted to answer every Islamist terror act with “a bomb for bomb’’ policy.

His 42-page confession, recorded in Hindi, has been reported in Tehelka news magazine’s latest cover story “In the Words of a Zealot.’’ He has named senior RSS leader Indresh Kumar, the murdered RSS pracharak Sunil Joshi, Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur and senior RSS pracharaks Sandeep Dange and Ramji Kalsangra, among others, as being key conspirators in the terror blast.

According to him, Indresh Kumar, who was recently questioned by the CBI, had financed several of the blasts, while Sunil Joshi and his team executed many of them. He said the terror conspiracy was hatched over several meetings at which he was present along with these Hindutva leaders. According to him, the trigger for their conspiracy was the Islamist terror strikes on Sankatmochan temple in Varanasi and Akshardham temple in Gandhinagar.

He said in his statement, “I told everybody that bomb ka jawab bomb se dena chahiye (we should reply to bomb blasts with bombs) I told everyone since 80 per cent of Malegaon are Muslims, we should explode the bomb in Malegaon.’’ He also said, “Since Hindus throng to the Ajmer Sharif dargah, we thought a bomb blast in Ajmer would deter Hindus from going there.’’

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/swami-aseemanands-confession-reveals-hindutva-terror-activities/article1073223.ece

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:00 pm

truthbetold wrote:Rash,

You are dead wrong in this case. Pakistan Taliban has already claimed the credit. Even if you do not know which jehadi group did this, what difference does that make? Unless brain dead jehadi apologists on this forum think somehow India or modi set off these bombers. Is that what RAHUL is telling you?

Hahaha... you think he did not know it ? He is the most duplicitious, dishonest, and dubious character on this this site...and to think his views are even worth reading...is like giving him a Padma Shri award.

The response pattern and timing in Christian tent coming down and 70 Christians being killed is like day and night. These guys are shyt scared of criticizing anything iSlam EVEN anonymously on the net.

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:09 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rash,

You are dead wrong in this case. Pakistan Taliban has already claimed the credit. Even if you do not know which jehadi group did this, what difference does that make? Unless brain dead jehadi apologists on this forum think somehow India or modi set off these bombers. Is that what RAHUL is telling you?

Hahaha... you think he did not know it ? He is the most duplicitious, dishonest, and dubious character on this this site...and to think his views are even worth reading...is like giving him a Padma Shri award.

The response pattern and timing in Christian tent coming down and 70 Christians being killed is like day and night. These guys are shyt scared of criticizing anything iSlam EVEN anonymously on the net.

some questions for the resident monkey: did the dead include muslims also, or did they include only christians? If the dead included muslims also, then what was the motive for killing them also? Isn't it reasonable to suggest that we should wait for more details to emerge before coming to conclusions?

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:18 pm

In Pakistan, Taliban attack on Easter targets Christians; 67 people killed

[size=16]CNN)A splinter group of the Pakistani Taliban has claimed responsibility for a deadly attack on Easter Sunday, saying it intentionally targeted Christians.
The suicide blast in the eastern Pakistan city of Lahore killed at least 67 people, a local government spokesman told CNN.
More than 300 others were injured, police official Haider Ashraf said.
The explosion ripped through the heart of Lahore on Sunday evening, at a time when many families were at the city's Gulshan Iqbal Park to celebrate the Easter holiday. Many women and children were among the victims.[/size]

History of violence

In March last year, suicide bombers attacked a Christian community, also in Lahore, setting off two blasts that killed at least 14 people and wounded dozens more, officials said.
The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for that attack too and warned of more to come.
The explosions, which struck the Nishtar Colony area in the city of Lahore, wounded at least 78 people, Dr. Muhammed Saeed Sohbin, medical superintendent at Lahore General Hospital, said then.
In 2013, suicide bombers struck a church in the northwestern city of Peshawar, killing more than 80 people.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/27/asia/pakistan-lahore-deadly-blast/

by Propagandhi711 Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:26 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rash,

You are dead wrong in this case. Pakistan Taliban has already claimed the credit. Even if you do not know which jehadi group did this, what difference does that make? Unless brain dead jehadi apologists on this forum think somehow India or modi set off these bombers. Is that what RAHUL is telling you?

Hahaha... you think he did not know it ? He is the most duplicitious, dishonest, and dubious character on this this site...and to think his views are even worth reading...is like giving him a Padma Shri award.

The response pattern and timing in Christian tent coming down and 70 Christians being killed is like day and night. These guys are shyt scared of criticizing anything iSlam EVEN anonymously on the net.

some questions for the resident monkey: did the dead include muslims also, or did they include only christians? If the dead included muslims also, then what was the motive for killing them also? Isn't it reasonable to suggest that we should wait for more details to emerge before coming to conclusions?

for once I agree with uppili, you are the resident bonobo of such, dishonest and duplicitous in the extreme. are you seriously arguing that since islamic kabooms across the world hurt and kill a few coreligionists due to collateral damage, the events cant be islamic but are judeo-hindu conspiracies? you must have your fucking head stuck so far up your ass to come up with such conspiracy theories. I thought only mulla reddy is capable, guess I was wrong

by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:28 pm

Hmm... How come a country that our chaddies like to imitate for its religious purity (100% muslim) has non-muslims celebrating their rituals in a public place?! Now, who are they going to lookup-to, to accomplish their 100% Hindu Desh goal, this must be gut wrenching to those uber patriots.

by Propagandhi711 Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:38 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:Hmm... How come a country that our chaddies like to imitate for its religious purity (100% muslim) has non-muslims celebrating their rituals in a public place?! Now, who are they going to lookup-to, to accomplish their 100% Hindu Desh goal, this must be gut wrenching to those uber patriots.

yes folks, in case you wondered, all this ties into modi and cbn somehow.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:39 pm

Pay attention to how fast this will fade from the western media as opposed to the wall to wall coverage of the French and Belgian attacks.

by Propagandhi711 Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:47 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Pay attention to how fast this will fade from the western media as opposed to the wall to wall coverage of the French and Belgian attacks.

yes that's the most important thing to learn from this: that ppl dont care as deeply for something that happens half a world away.

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:49 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Rash,

You are dead wrong in this case. Pakistan Taliban has already claimed the credit. Even if you do not know which jehadi group did this, what difference does that make? Unless brain dead jehadi apologists on this forum think somehow India or modi set off these bombers. Is that what RAHUL is telling you?

Hahaha... you think he did not know it ? He is the most duplicitious, dishonest, and dubious character on this this site...and to think his views are even worth reading...is like giving him a Padma Shri award.

The response pattern and timing in Christian tent coming down and 70 Christians being killed is like day and night. These guys are shyt scared of criticizing anything iSlam EVEN anonymously on the net.

some questions for the resident monkey: did the dead include muslims also, or did they include only christians? If the dead included muslims also, then what was the motive for killing them also? Isn't it reasonable to suggest that we should wait for more details to emerge before coming to conclusions?

for once I agree with uppili, you are the resident bonobo of such, dishonest and duplicitous in the extreme. are you seriously arguing that since islamic kabooms across the world hurt and kill a few coreligionists due to collateral damage, the events cant be islamic but are judeo-hindu conspiracies? you must have your fucking head stuck so far up your ass to come up with such conspiracy theories. I thought only mulla reddy is capable, guess I was wrong

i am not. i am only saying that we need to know more about the motive and about who did it. On another note, do you identify yourself as a Hindutva Chaddi?

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:54 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Pay attention to how fast this will fade from the western media as opposed to the wall to wall coverage of the French and Belgian attacks.

yes that's the most important thing to learn from this: that ppl dont care as deeply for something that happens half a world away.

Islamic terrorism is certainly a scourge, but only if it affects the west (including Israel). Same shit happens in Asia or Africa as it does every week, nobody gives a crap.

by Hellsangel Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:02 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Pay attention to how fast this will fade from the western media as opposed to the wall to wall coverage of the French and Belgian attacks.

yes that's the most important thing to learn from this: that ppl dont care as deeply for something that happens half a world away.

Islamic terrorism is certainly a scourge, but only if it affects the west (including Israel). Same shit happens in Asia or Africa as it does every week, nobody gives a crap.

Must be half a blue moon today, Il Professore.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:07 pm

I have said it many times before, but the reason nobody here likes it is the rest of the message I always append to it-- namely, the outrage will be more genuine when we see more coverage of Islamic terrorism in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey, and Africa and not just in Western Europe, Israel, and North America.

by southindian Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:39 pm

Awwwww... Rashmun's and CD's slimmest of excitment dashed. 2 minute silence. Taliban claim responsibility.

Pakis - You cannot raise evil for your neighbor and expect not to be affected by it.

Snakes version, hole version...whatever. Miserable Pakis.

by truthbetold Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:42 pm

Max, Remember the Sri srinivasan discussion? People react more emotionally when they feel connected culturally , economically, and emotionally. When hundreds were murdered in India before 2001, many in the west including USA and UK advised India to concede to Pakistan's demands. Lives In Africa and ASIA deserve a twice daily, two day coverage. Belgium on the other hand will be a daily news through out the Presidential election cycle.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:50 pm

Sure but then nobody should complain when the double standards are pointed out. Saamiyaar here whines constantly that some of us stay silent about Islamic terrorism.

by Propagandhi711 Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:03 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Pay attention to how fast this will fade from the western media as opposed to the wall to wall coverage of the French and Belgian attacks.

yes that's the most important thing to learn from this: that ppl dont care as deeply for something that happens half a world away.

Islamic terrorism is certainly a scourge, but only if it affects the west (including Israel). Same shit happens in Asia or Africa as it does every week, nobody gives a crap.

same way you emotionally connect to tamil language, tamil causes, tamil food, tamil....when others do the it it's a symptom of what, racism? I fail to understand the convoluted point

by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:30 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Propagandhi711 wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Pay attention to how fast this will fade from the western media as opposed to the wall to wall coverage of the French and Belgian attacks.

yes that's the most important thing to learn from this: that ppl dont care as deeply for something that happens half a world away.

Islamic terrorism is certainly a scourge, but only if it affects the west (including Israel). Same shit happens in Asia or Africa as it does every week, nobody gives a crap.

same way you emotionally connect to tamil language, tamil causes, tamil food, tamil....when others do the it it's a symptom of what, racism? I fail to understand the convoluted point

But Max is not calling for Punjabis' heads for pongal not being a part of their daily diet or for doing balle balle. When a low intensity bomb went off in Bangalore before the start of 2010 World Cup, one of the Australian(?) cricketers wife famously said "that part of the world is dangerous", are they saying the same about Europe in the wake of the events that took place in last year or so? rather than singing hosannas as to how resilient those Europeans are.

P.S: I've nothing against all those innocent folks that lost their lives in Paris, Brussels, my heart goes out to their families just as to the families of the folks from Africa or Asia.

by truthbetold Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:40 pm

CD,

In some aussie eyes, India and that part of the world is poor and unsecure. So they are free with their commentary, notwithstanding flimflam's certification of their high moral standards.

But at the same time, tourism dropped in the immediate aftermath of Paris bombings.

You do not need to solve the problem of racism and ignorance first to solve jehadi terrorism. Humanity should be able to handle all of them simultaneously.

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:45 pm

so the islamic terrorism in the west is because of islamophobia, alienation of muslims in their countries, western imperialism, their support for Israel, the wars that they waged, etc.
What are the reasons for the same kind of terrorism in Asia and Africa again?

by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:45 pm

truthbetold wrote:CD,

In some aussie eyes, India and that part of the world is poor and unsecure. So they are free with their commentary, notwithstanding flimflam's certification of their high moral standards.

But at the same time, tourism dropped in the immediate aftermath of Paris bombings.

You do not need to solve the problem of racism and ignorance first to solve jehadi terrorism. Humanity should be able to handle all of them simultaneously.

Nobody is trying to solve the problem we're just asking the media to treat all lives equally - All lives matter.

by truthbetold Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:52 pm

Why should media should treat all news the same? All media is business and they serve their customer base.

by Hellsangel Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:57 pm

How noble! All Comrade wants is people to say "Je suis Lahore!"

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:01 pm

truthbetold wrote:Why should media should treat all news the same? All media is business and they serve their customer base.

that's very laudably practical and all, but i wonder why the whining never stops about the left, congress-supporting media in india. such noble capitalistic notions don't apply there? most of the population that they serve are urban, left leaning indians, so maybe the whining about NDTV et al. should also stop because after all they are only serving their customer base.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:06 pm

Kinnera wrote:so the islamic terrorism in the west is because of islamophobia, alienation of muslims in their countries, western imperialism, their support for Israel, the wars that they waged, etc.
What are the reasons for the same kind of terrorism in Asia and Africa again?

the reasons for islamic terrorism are warped notions about a religious text and a literal reading of it, fueled by western support for the governments of countries where the institutions that foster such thinking globally, exist (read saudi arabia). it's the same whether it takes place in western europe or africa, but the reaction in the western mainstream media is a whole lot more frenzied and over-the-top when western institutions are hit. not so much when hundreds of girls are kidnapped from nigeria, never to be heard from again, or when bangalore or coimbatore are bombed.

by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:07 pm

Kinnera wrote:so the islamic terrorism in the west is because of islamophobia, alienation of muslims in their countries, western imperialism, their support for Israel, the wars that they waged, etc.
What are the reasons for the same kind of terrorism in Asia and Africa again?

Was Pakistan having terrorism issues since its inception?

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:09 pm

So scores of innocent women and childen are blasted off in Pakistan and all that these islamophilics want to talk about is about western media? Islamic terrorism is not a burning problem, but the reporting of the western media is? How insensitive of them to be talking about such things now. It's such an insult to the poor souls who lost their lives just a few hours ago to terrorism. These libbies will go to any length to divert the attention from islamic terrorism. Disgusting!

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:11 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:so the islamic terrorism in the west is because of islamophobia, alienation of muslims in their countries, western imperialism, their support for Israel, the wars that they waged, etc.
What are the reasons for the same kind of terrorism in Asia and Africa again?
Was Pakistan having terrorism issues since its inception?

Its inception itself was very bloody!

Now what all excuses are you going to come up with for the mass murder of innocent children and women in the park?

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:13 pm

Kinnera wrote:So scores of innocent women and childen are blasted off in Pakistan and all that these islamophilics want to talk about is about western media? Islamic terrorism is not a burning problem, but the reporting of the western media is? How insensitive of them to be talking about such things now. It's such an insult to the poor souls who lost their lives just a few hours ago to terrorism. These libbies will go to any length to divert the attention from islamic terrorism. Disgusting!

i agree with you wholeheartedly that what has happened in pakistan is very sad, and i hope they find the perpetrators and bring them to justice. but i am also betting on this staying on CNN until midnight tonight and no longer. okay scratch that, midnight tomorrow. you're never going to hear about this again.

by Hellsangel Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:17 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:so the islamic terrorism in the west is because of islamophobia, alienation of muslims in their countries, western imperialism, their support for Israel, the wars that they waged, etc.
What are the reasons for the same kind of terrorism in Asia and Africa again?

the reasons for islamic terrorism are warped notions about a religious text and a literal reading of it, fueled by western support for the governments of countries where the institutions that foster such thinking globally, exist (read saudi arabia). it's the same whether it takes place in western europe or africa, but the reaction in the western mainstream media is a whole lot more frenzied and over-the-top when western institutions are hit. not so much when hundreds of girls are kidnapped from nigeria, never to be heard from again, or when bangalore or coimbatore are bombed.

Oh my! Three-quarter blue moon over New England tonight! Literal reading? I doubt there is any nuanced way to read what it says?

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:19 pm

in fact it has already disappeared from being the front page news from CNN and has been moved to the side! the front page article is something about how trump doesn't respect women and how that is hurting the GOP.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:20 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:so the islamic terrorism in the west is because of islamophobia, alienation of muslims in their countries, western imperialism, their support for Israel, the wars that they waged, etc.
What are the reasons for the same kind of terrorism in Asia and Africa again?

the reasons for islamic terrorism are warped notions about a religious text and a literal reading of it, fueled by western support for the governments of countries where the institutions that foster such thinking globally, exist (read saudi arabia). it's the same whether it takes place in western europe or africa, but the reaction in the western mainstream media is a whole lot more frenzied and over-the-top when western institutions are hit. not so much when hundreds of girls are kidnapped from nigeria, never to be heard from again, or when bangalore or coimbatore are bombed.
Oh my! Three-quarter blue moon over New England tonight! Literal reading? I doubt there is any nuanced way to read what it says?

isn't there a lot of fairly nasty stuff in the old testament? and that the folks who take religious inspiration from the old testament don't necessarily act on it? and what about the 98% of muslims who read the quran and don't feel the need to off themselves and hundreds of people along with them?

by Hellsangel Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:23 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:so the islamic terrorism in the west is because of islamophobia, alienation of muslims in their countries, western imperialism, their support for Israel, the wars that they waged, etc.
What are the reasons for the same kind of terrorism in Asia and Africa again?

the reasons for islamic terrorism are warped notions about a religious text and a literal reading of it, fueled by western support for the governments of countries where the institutions that foster such thinking globally, exist (read saudi arabia). it's the same whether it takes place in western europe or africa, but the reaction in the western mainstream media is a whole lot more frenzied and over-the-top when western institutions are hit. not so much when hundreds of girls are kidnapped from nigeria, never to be heard from again, or when bangalore or coimbatore are bombed.
Oh my! Three-quarter blue moon over New England tonight! Literal reading? I doubt there is any nuanced way to read what it says?

isn't there a lot of fairly nasty stuff in the old testament? and that the folks who take religious inspiration from the old testament don't necessarily act on it?

Maybe it simply means that the Jewish people became civilized and stopped following Moses' law. And the followers of the Quran are a long way from being civilized. Forget ISIS, even governments follow it.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:25 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:so the islamic terrorism in the west is because of islamophobia, alienation of muslims in their countries, western imperialism, their support for Israel, the wars that they waged, etc.
What are the reasons for the same kind of terrorism in Asia and Africa again?

the reasons for islamic terrorism are warped notions about a religious text and a literal reading of it, fueled by western support for the governments of countries where the institutions that foster such thinking globally, exist (read saudi arabia). it's the same whether it takes place in western europe or africa, but the reaction in the western mainstream media is a whole lot more frenzied and over-the-top when western institutions are hit. not so much when hundreds of girls are kidnapped from nigeria, never to be heard from again, or when bangalore or coimbatore are bombed.
Oh my! Three-quarter blue moon over New England tonight! Literal reading? I doubt there is any nuanced way to read what it says?

isn't there a lot of fairly nasty stuff in the old testament? and that the folks who take religious inspiration from the old testament don't necessarily act on it?
Maybe it simply means that the Jewish people became civilized and stopped following Moses' law. And the followers of the Quran are a long way from being civilized. Forget ISIS, even governments follow it.

you asked me if there was a nuanced way to read what it says. i gave you an example of people who read another violent text and don't act on all its nasty recommendations. so they must be reading it in a nuanced way. the same applies to the 98% of muslims who read the quran and don't act on its vilest recommendations.

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:26 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:So scores of innocent women and childen are blasted off in Pakistan and all that these islamophilics want to talk about is about western media? Islamic terrorism is not a burning problem, but the reporting of the western media is? How insensitive of them to be talking about such things now. It's such an insult to the poor souls who lost their lives just a few hours ago to terrorism. These libbies will go to any length to divert the attention from islamic terrorism. Disgusting!

i agree with you wholeheartedly that what has happened in pakistan is very sad, and i hope they find the perpetrators and bring them to justice. but i am also betting on this staying on CNN until midnight tonight and no longer. okay scratch that, midnight tomorrow. you're never going to hear about this again.

Don't worry too much about the westerners. It is hitting them home, slowly but surely. And hitting very hard with all the terrorism and muslim headaches in their own homelands. Now they can connect to what's been happening in Asia and Africa over the past few decades and empathize with the pain and hardships that that part of the world has been going through coz of the islamists. Good for them and for the world!

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:27 pm

Kinnera wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:So scores of innocent women and childen are blasted off in Pakistan and all that these islamophilics want to talk about is about western media? Islamic terrorism is not a burning problem, but the reporting of the western media is? How insensitive of them to be talking about such things now. It's such an insult to the poor souls who lost their lives just a few hours ago to terrorism. These libbies will go to any length to divert the attention from islamic terrorism. Disgusting!

i agree with you wholeheartedly that what has happened in pakistan is very sad, and i hope they find the perpetrators and bring them to justice. but i am also betting on this staying on CNN until midnight tonight and no longer. okay scratch that, midnight tomorrow. you're never going to hear about this again.
Don't worry too much about the westerners. It is hitting them home, slowly but surely. And hitting very hard with all the terrorism and muslim headaches in their own homelands. Now they can connect to what's been happening in Asia and Africa over the past few decades and empathize with the pain and hardships that that part of the world has been going through coz of the islamists. Good for them and for the world!

i doubt that very much. terrorism is news only when it happens in western europe, north america, and israel. outside of that, they don't much care about what happens to brown and black-skinned people.

by Hellsangel Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:30 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

the reasons for islamic terrorism are warped notions about a religious text and a literal reading of it, fueled by western support for the governments of countries where the institutions that foster such thinking globally, exist (read saudi arabia). it's the same whether it takes place in western europe or africa, but the reaction in the western mainstream media is a whole lot more frenzied and over-the-top when western institutions are hit. not so much when hundreds of girls are kidnapped from nigeria, never to be heard from again, or when bangalore or coimbatore are bombed.
Oh my! Three-quarter blue moon over New England tonight! Literal reading? I doubt there is any nuanced way to read what it says?

isn't there a lot of fairly nasty stuff in the old testament? and that the folks who take religious inspiration from the old testament don't necessarily act on it?
Maybe it simply means that the Jewish people became civilized and stopped following Moses' law. And the followers of the Quran are a long way from being civilized. Forget ISIS, even governments follow it.

you asked me if there was a nuanced way to read what it says. i gave you an example of people who read another violent text and don't act on all its nasty recommendations. so they must be reading it in a nuanced way. the same applies to the 98% of muslims who read the quran and don't act on its vilest recommendations.

Or they have learned to disregard it totally. 98%? Where are you coming up with these figures?

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:30 pm

this happened a week before brussels --
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/14/horror-at-the-beach-22-dead-in-terrorist-attack-on-ivory-coast-resorts/

did anyone here hear about it or comment on it?

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:31 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Oh my! Three-quarter blue moon over New England tonight! Literal reading? I doubt there is any nuanced way to read what it says?

isn't there a lot of fairly nasty stuff in the old testament? and that the folks who take religious inspiration from the old testament don't necessarily act on it?
Maybe it simply means that the Jewish people became civilized and stopped following Moses' law. And the followers of the Quran are a long way from being civilized. Forget ISIS, even governments follow it.

you asked me if there was a nuanced way to read what it says. i gave you an example of people who read another violent text and don't act on all its nasty recommendations. so they must be reading it in a nuanced way. the same applies to the 98% of muslims who read the quran and don't act on its vilest recommendations.
Or they have learned to disregard it totally. 98%? Where are you coming up with these figures?

it could well be a lot smaller than that. that was a guesstimate.

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:32 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
Oh my! Three-quarter blue moon over New England tonight! Literal reading? I doubt there is any nuanced way to read what it says?

isn't there a lot of fairly nasty stuff in the old testament? and that the folks who take religious inspiration from the old testament don't necessarily act on it?
Maybe it simply means that the Jewish people became civilized and stopped following Moses' law. And the followers of the Quran are a long way from being civilized. Forget ISIS, even governments follow it.

you asked me if there was a nuanced way to read what it says. i gave you an example of people who read another violent text and don't act on all its nasty recommendations. so they must be reading it in a nuanced way. the same applies to the 98% of muslims who read the quran and don't act on its vilest recommendations.
Or they have learned to disregard it totally. 98%? Where are you coming up with these figures?

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/belief-in-old-and-new-testaments/

by Guest Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:35 pm

the MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

isn't there a lot of fairly nasty stuff in the old testament? and that the folks who take religious inspiration from the old testament don't necessarily act on it?
Maybe it simply means that the Jewish people became civilized and stopped following Moses' law. And the followers of the Quran are a long way from being civilized. Forget ISIS, even governments follow it.

you asked me if there was a nuanced way to read what it says. i gave you an example of people who read another violent text and don't act on all its nasty recommendations. so they must be reading it in a nuanced way. the same applies to the 98% of muslims who read the quran and don't act on its vilest recommendations.
Or they have learned to disregard it totally. 98%? Where are you coming up with these figures?

it could well be a lot smaller than that. that was a guesstimate.

According to many intelligence reports around the world, it's 15-25%. 15-25% of the muslim population is radicalized. Have you watched the video that i posted here a few days ago?

by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:37 pm

Kinnera wrote:So scores of innocent women and childen are blasted off in Pakistan and all that these islamophilics want to talk about is about western media? Islamic terrorism is not a burning problem, but the reporting of the western media is? How insensitive of them to be talking about such things now. It's such an insult to the poor souls who lost their lives just a few hours ago to terrorism. These libbies will go to any length to divert the attention from islamic terrorism. Disgusting!

Did you ever criticize your adopted country's foreign policy for cozying up with the prime sponsor of terrorism? About your other point, had the US new media reported about Paris attack in the same proportion as the attacks in Pakistan, do you think it would've been as big a deal in the US?

by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:40 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35820533?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

outside of bbc and occasionally NPR, nobody talks about these incidents.

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