araar asaipadaar - a documentary on sanjay subrahmanyan

Rashmun wrote:I wish to know from you why the spelling of N.Ram is not N.Rama. Is it customary for tamil brahmins to spell the name as Ram instead of Rama?

Rashmun wrote:I wish to know from you why the spelling of N.Ram is not N.Rama. Is it customary for tamil brahmins to spell the name as Ram instead of Rama?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:I wish to know from you why the spelling of N.Ram is not N.Rama. Is it customary for tamil brahmins to spell the name as Ram instead of Rama?

what does this have to do with the documentary on sanjay subrahmanyan?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:if you want to continue that discussion do it in the appropriate thread. this thread is about music.

Rashmun wrote:I wish to know from you why the spelling of N.Ram is not N.Rama. Is it customary for tamil brahmins to spell the name as Ram instead of Rama?

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Rashmun wrote:I wish to know from you why the spelling of N.Ram is not N.Rama. Is it customary for tamil brahmins to spell the name as Ram instead of Rama?

Not at all. His full name would be something like Narasimhan Ramanujan Iyengar. But since Marx and his followers frown upon the caste system, and those horrible DK ruffians targeted TamBrahms in particular, the `Iyengar' was first dropped. And then, young Ramanujan found that having a four syllabic name was a hindrance when it came to scoring with white chicks flocking to India in search of spiritual enlightenment. So he shortened it to 1.5 (technically one) syllables, causing his twice-born ancestors to squirm in their heavenly abodes at this grave travesty.

But the difference between SIs and NIs is that the former will pronounce the name as it is spelt. Every Indian script provides a facility (virama in Sanskrit) for truncating the last consonant to drop the attached vowel. So N. Ram has the option of spelling his name as Ram or Rama in any Indian script, depending on how he'd like his name to be pronounced. It is only the Hindi-speakers who drop the vowel even if he spells it as Rama. (PS: Having said that, I committed the same error a couple of weeks back when I addressed an Anantha as Ananth. `It's Anantha,' he gently - almost apologetically - corrected me.)

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:I wish to know from you why the spelling of N.Ram is not N.Rama. Is it customary for tamil brahmins to spell the name as Ram instead of Rama?

what does this have to do with the documentary on sanjay subrahmanyan?

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Rashmun wrote:I wish to know from you why the spelling of N.Ram is not N.Rama. Is it customary for tamil brahmins to spell the name as Ram instead of Rama?

what does this have to do with the documentary on sanjay subrahmanyan?

I am sure you often say in your class "there is no such thing as a stupid question," although you know otherwise.

Rashmun wrote:
i once took Max's advice too seriously. i was giving a presentation and referred to one of the people in the audience as Vasantha (VasanthA) a few times before everyone. Later this all tamil guy requested me to refer to him as Vasanth. He said that Vasantha is a female name.

blabberwock wrote:

Rashmun wrote:
i once took Max's advice too seriously. i was giving a presentation and referred to one of the people in the audience as Vasantha (VasanthA) a few times before everyone. Later this all tamil guy requested me to refer to him as Vasanth. He said that Vasantha is a female name.

hahaha.

Merlot Daruwala wrote:

Rashmun wrote:I wish to know from you why the spelling of N.Ram is not N.Rama. Is it customary for tamil brahmins to spell the name as Ram instead of Rama?

Not at all. His full name would be something like Narasimhan Ramanujan Iyengar.
But since Marx and his followers frown upon the caste system, and those horrible DK ruffians targeted TamBrahms in particular, the `Iyengar' was first dropped.
Saar, i salute you for your incisive and illuminating remarks.
@ Marx and NRI. I gather it is very true that the K'dhi and DKheads targeted Tambrahms who were petrified to disclose their identity & had to mutilate/amputate their names for survival [/b] but at least not as tragic as the african names, totally erased from memory, decimated without a trace in the brave new world that is lasting even today .

And then, young Ramanujan found that having a four syllabic name was a hindrance when it came to scoring with white chicks flocking to India in search of spiritual enlightenment. So he shortened it to 1.5 (technically one) syllables, causing his twice-born ancestors to squirm in their heavenly abodes at this grave travesty.

looks like they all expressed solidarity taking the cue from the top leader of the country, at that time, LOL

But the difference between SIs and NIs is that the former will pronounce the name as it is spelt. Every Indian script provides a facility (virama in Sanskrit) for truncating the last consonant to drop the attached vowel. So N. Ram has the option of spelling his name as Ram or Rama in any Indian script, depending on how he'd like his name to be pronounced. It is only the Hindi-speakers who drop the vowel even if he spells it as Rama. (PS: Having said that, I committed the same error a couple of weeks back when I addressed an Anantha as Ananth. `It's Anantha,' he gently - almost apologetically - corrected me.)

yeah! dropping the article and changing raman to ram i guess
eventually would lead to ra and then to distinguish, ra-1, 2, 3 etc.,

Rashmun wrote:

i once took Max's advice too seriously. i was giving a presentation and referred to one of the people in the audience as Vasantha (VasanthA) a few times before everyone. Later this all tamil guy requested me to refer to him as Vasanth. He said that Vasantha is a female name.

garam_kuta wrote:

blabberwock wrote:

Rashmun wrote:
i once took Max's advice too seriously. i was giving a presentation and referred to one of the people in the audience as Vasantha (VasanthA) a few times before everyone. Later this all tamil guy requested me to refer to him as Vasanth. He said that Vasantha is a female name.

hahaha.

the male equivalent is vasanthan and perhaps that's the original, although a nil/anomalous occurrence among Tambrahms IMO

Rashmun wrote:

garam_kuta wrote:

blabberwock wrote:

Rashmun wrote:
i once took Max's advice too seriously. i was giving a presentation and referred to one of the people in the audience as Vasantha (VasanthA) a few times before everyone. Later this all tamil guy requested me to refer to him as Vasanth. He said that Vasantha is a female name.

hahaha.

the male equivalent is vasanthan and perhaps that's the original, although a nil/anomalous occurrence among Tambrahms IMO

Max and garam_kuta,

his first name is not Vasanthan; it is Vasanthakumar (all one word). i did not want to refer to him as Vasanthakumar so i addressed him as Vasantha (VasanthA).
he is a tamilian; i do not know if he is a tambrahm.

Tracy Whitney wrote:not sure why e'one is getting so pissed about it... vasanth, vasanthan, or vasantha... just let me know how to say it, and I will remember how to say it... honestly, if the name is vasanthakumar, even I might have made the same mistake, whether I was influenced by Max or not, but most likely not, coz I mostly ask first how to say a name, or what name to say. No biggie either way.

Gosh you thambis take umbrage to e'thing.

Kris wrote:

Tracy Whitney wrote:not sure why e'one is getting so pissed about it... vasanth, vasanthan, or vasantha... just let me know how to say it, and I will remember how to say it... honestly, if the name is vasanthakumar, even I might have made the same mistake, whether I was influenced by Max or not, but most likely not, coz I mostly ask first how to say a name, or what name to say. No biggie either way.

Gosh you thambis take umbrage to e'thing.

>>>> Trace,

If it makes you feel any better, call me KrisA. Be forewarned though - I am going to be e mailing the names of the alcohol consumers on this forum to Anna ( wait, is it Ann?)