What is the path forward for GOP

confuzzled dude wrote:Hillary, slowly buy steadily, is solidifying lead over Trump. Should Trump quit? If he did, who would be the replacement candidate? Pence, Paul Ryan, Cruz or Kasich? Is Trump causing irreparable damage to the GOP by clinging on or is he the only bright spot, who eventually will help GOP bounce back.

Propagandhi711 wrote:salvage this election? you got to be kidding, it'll be suprising if hidimbi doesnt win 270 EC votes in just the swing states, let alone blue states. this election is the supernova for lincoln's party with the cheetos hued orangutan standing at the helm like a deranged monkey pushing buttons. they'll be lucky if they win one of the next 5 presidential elections and with hillary nominating two judges to supreme court, they're fucked for next 20 yrs in executive and judiciary. will be surprising if they dont lose the legislative too. republicans are in the same boat congress party is in india, except the republican party still has sound ideas for governance and with proper leadership will come back retooled in oh, 20-24 yrs..

truthbetold wrote:I watched about last 60 min of the debate. What a terrible performance by Trump. I have never seen another presidential candidate who is so incoherent in his answers. His English is poor and grating on ears.  Somebody should tell him to go back to school and learn public speaking.  We can differ on his policy positions and character but his English is intolerable and unacceptable.

truthbetold wrote:I watched about last 60 min of the debate. What a terrible performance by Trump. I have never seen another presidential candidate who is so incoherent in his answers. His English is poor and grating on ears.  Somebody should tell him to go back to school and learn public speaking.  We can differ on his policy positions and character but his English is intolerable and unacceptable.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:salvage this election? you got to be kidding, it'll be suprising if hidimbi doesnt win 270 EC votes in just the swing states, let alone blue states. this election is the supernova for lincoln's party with the cheetos hued orangutan standing at the helm like a deranged monkey pushing buttons. they'll be lucky if they win one of the next 5 presidential elections and with hillary nominating two judges to supreme court, they're fucked for next 20 yrs in executive and judiciary. will be surprising if they dont lose the legislative too. republicans are in the same boat congress party is in india, except the republican party still has sound ideas for governance and with proper leadership will come back retooled in oh, 20-24 yrs..

That is too pessimistic a view. I don't think it will take 20 years for GOP to bounce back, for all we know, they might find an energetic and youthful leader in 4 years. In politics, things change rapidly.

truthbetold wrote:I watched about last 60 min of the debate. What a terrible performance by Trump. I have never seen another presidential candidate who is so incoherent in his answers. His English is poor and grating on ears.  Somebody should tell him to go back to school and learn public speaking.  We can differ on his policy positions and character but his English is intolerable and unacceptable.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:salvage this election? you got to be kidding, it'll be suprising if hidimbi doesnt win 270 EC votes in just the swing states, let alone blue states. this election is the supernova for lincoln's party with the cheetos hued orangutan standing at the helm like a deranged monkey pushing buttons. they'll be lucky if they win one of the next 5 presidential elections and with hillary nominating two judges to supreme court, they're fucked for next 20 yrs in executive and judiciary. will be surprising if they dont lose the legislative too. republicans are in the same boat congress party is in india, except the republican party still has sound ideas for governance and with proper leadership will come back retooled in oh, 20-24 yrs..

That is too pessimistic a view. I don't think it will take 20 years for GOP to bounce back, for all we know, they might find an energetic and youthful leader in 4 years. In politics, things change rapidly.

yes, if you believe the problems dont run deep and this year's debacle is a freak outlier. I dont believe that...they damaged the party badly with the infighting tea party shit, getting away from conservative principles and instead depending on white identity politics. it will decades to undo that, especially with long term demographics being what they are and not having a proper outreach to minorities etc. you think beaners will be eager to support the party after this election? humiliating people causes long term damage to the psyche, and will turn ppl off for a full generation. demographics are destiny and they just fucked themselves up real bad.

as dumb and reckless this thin skinned shallow motherfucker is, I dont believe he alone fucked up a 150 yr old party in less than a year...it was a long time coming.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:salvage this election? you got to be kidding, it'll be suprising if hidimbi doesnt win 270 EC votes in just the swing states, let alone blue states. this election is the supernova for lincoln's party with the cheetos hued orangutan standing at the helm like a deranged monkey pushing buttons. they'll be lucky if they win one of the next 5 presidential elections and with hillary nominating two judges to supreme court, they're fucked for next 20 yrs in executive and judiciary. will be surprising if they dont lose the legislative too. republicans are in the same boat congress party is in india, except the republican party still has sound ideas for governance and with proper leadership will come back retooled in oh, 20-24 yrs..

That is too pessimistic a view. I don't think it will take 20 years for GOP to bounce back, for all we know, they might find an energetic and youthful leader in 4 years. In politics, things change rapidly.

yes, if you believe the problems dont run deep and this year's debacle is a freak outlier. I dont believe that...they damaged the party badly with the infighting tea party shit, getting away from conservative principles and instead depending on white identity politics. it will decades to undo that, especially with long term demographics being what they are and not having a proper outreach to minorities etc. you think beaners will be eager to support the party after this election? humiliating people causes long term damage to the psyche, and will turn ppl off for a full generation. demographics are destiny and they just fucked themselves up real bad.

as dumb and reckless this thin skinned shallow motherfucker is, I dont believe he alone fucked up a 150 yr old party in less than a year...it was a long time coming.

I agree with you on dumbing down of Republican voters happened over the years. But someone like Rubio might be able to cater to the changing demographics assuming Republican base won't have any problem with electing a colored candidate.

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truthbetold wrote:I watched about last 60 min of the debate. What a terrible performance by Trump. I have never seen another presidential candidate who is so incoherent in his answers. His English is poor and grating on ears.  Somebody should tell him to go back to school and learn public speaking.  We can differ on his policy positions and character but his English is intolerable and unacceptable.

All his answers lacked substance. Be it is about replacement for Obama care or dealing with the situation in Syria or about the changes in tax laws he is proposing that would benefit the middle class. And his answer about Islamophobia clarified that he indeed is Islamophobic. He speaks, totally, like a car salesman err.. real estate agent, if he stumbles for a word, he readily has the word "beautiful" to rescue him, from real estate jargon, I guess. What a phony this guy is. To top it off, many thought he did better than expected, that tells me, how low the bar was set. Come on, folks, you're much better than that and should expect a lot more from your President than vague answers.

confuzzled dude wrote:Hillary, slowly buy steadily, is solidifying lead over Trump. Should Trump quit? If he did, who would be the replacement candidate? Pence, Paul Ryan, Cruz or Kasich? Is Trump causing irreparable damage to the GOP by clinging on or is he the only bright spot, who eventually will help GOP bounce back.

confuzzled dude wrote:Can we conclude that Trump was/is the bright spot