West Virginia: Why the poorest of the poor have faith in Trump

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:19 am

Donald Trump was more popular in McDowell County than anywhere else in America during the Republican primaries. Paul Lewis explores the power of the Republican presidential nominee’s message in the poorest county of West Virginia.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/oct/12/west-virginia-donald-trump-supporters-mcdowell-county-poverty-video

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:22 am

This is also a good place to post this. Data can be very clarifying:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:23 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:This is also a good place to post this. Data can be very clarifying:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

Max, the OP shows interviews with people living in the poorest county of West Virginia who support Trump. You can't argue with that using data. We all know that there are three kinds of lies, one of them being statistics.

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:27 am

Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:This is also a good place to post this. Data can be very clarifying:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

Max, the OP shows interviews with people living in the poorest county of West Virginia who support Trump. You can't argue with that using data. We all know that there are three kinds of lies, one of them being statistics.

That's a cop out that people who can't produce a refuting argument when confronted with information that contradicts their views, use. I am not saying there aren't economically deprived people who are supporting Drumpf, but the overwhelming evidence is that in the aggregate, the people supporting him are better off than Hillary supporters. So this notion that his base is made up of predominantly people who've been screwed over by globalization etc. is BS.

by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:34 am

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:This is also a good place to post this. Data can be very clarifying:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

Max, the OP shows interviews with people living in the poorest county of West Virginia who support Trump. You can't argue with that using data. We all know that there are three kinds of lies, one of them being statistics.

That's a cop out that people who can't produce a refuting argument when confronted with information that contradicts their views, use. I am not saying there aren't economically deprived people who are supporting Drumpf, but the overwhelming evidence is that in the aggregate, the people supporting him are better off than Hillary supporters. So this notion that his base is made up of predominantly people who've been screwed over by globalization etc. is BS.

one reason why many poor people in West Virginia are supporting Trump over Clinton:

When officials in Logan, West Virginia, were contacted last week about hosting Hillary Clinton for a local rally, it didn’t take long for them to respond with an answer: Hell no.
“Bill and Hillary Clinton are simply not welcome in our town,” they wrote in a letter to the office of Sen. Joe Manchin, whose office had inquired about the availability of local facilities. “Mrs. Clinton’s anti-coal messages are the last thing our suffering town needs at this point. The policies that have been championed by people like Mrs. Clinton have all but devastated our fair town, and honestly, enough is enough. We wish them the best in their campaign, however we again state they are not welcome on our city’s properties.”

While Clinton might have the support of much of West Virginia’s political establishment in Tuesday’s Democratic primary, the Logan letter reveals the depth of some of the opposition to her candidacy. It’s sparked to some degree by a remark that continues to haunt her in coal country, two months after she made it in a March town hall.
Referring to the transition to clean energy, Clinton said: “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.”
While Clinton later apologized for the comment, it’s proving to be a painful thorn in her campaign. She was publicly confronted about it at a West Virginia roundtable discussion last week and finds herself trailing Bernie Sanders in the two most recent public polls.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/sanders-looking-to-rack-up-west-virginia-win-over-clinton-222952

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