Melania Trump's defense of the bus video

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:01 pm

She said it's boys' talk and that Billy Bush egged Donny Groper on. I have two questions.

1) How is a 60 year old man's horny blathering boys' talk? This sounds more like dirty old grandpa talk.

2) If you get so easily egged on by a two bit "reporter", what can a powerful Russian dictator egg you on to do that's against the security interests of your country?

by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:23 pm

When a 50 yr old man can get turned on by a 22yr old's strip tease that he goes and does an oral on her in his oral office several times, what do you call that? What if she were a Russian spy out to get secrets from him. Are you ok with him making his way into the white house as the President's husband? How safe is thee country?

How about the Presidential candidate? She used her private server even for the most confidential information, putting into jeopardy the security of the country and our troops. An easy escape with a 'sorry, that was a mistake. I shouldn't have done that' won't absolve her of that. Why did she destroy the 33,000 emails, even after the subpoena? What was she trying to hide so desperately? There is something very fishy there. She is apologizing for her 'mistake' because she wants to close the case and not be probed further. Very shady. And you all think she is qualified to be the President. Private junk talk by Trump a decade ago disqualifies him for the same. wah!!

by Hellsangel Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:40 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

1) How is a 60 year old man's horny blathering boys' talk? This sounds more like dirty old grandpa talk.

What's the cutoff age? And who made you age police? Is Mick Jagger becoming a dad against your policy?

by FluteHolder Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:41 pm

Why did she destroy the 33,000 emails, even after the subpoena? What was she trying to hide so desperately? There is something very fishy there.

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This alone disqualifies her. Can any common man or ordinary citizen or an executive in a company can do similar act and get away with it?

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:48 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

1) How is a 60 year old man's horny blathering boys' talk? This sounds more like dirty old grandpa talk.
What's the cutoff age? And who made you age police? Is Mick Jagger becoming a dad against your policy?

There is no society where a sixty year old man is considered a "boy".
Mick Jagger is not running for POTUS.

by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:51 pm

FluteHolder wrote:Why did she destroy the 33,000 emails, even after the subpoena? What was she trying to hide so desperately? There is something very fishy there.

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This alone disqualifies her. Can any common man or ordinary citizen or an executive in a company can do similar act and get away with it?

She is a law unto herself. If anyone else did it, they'd be in jail by now. It is sad that such a person is going to be the president of this country.

by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:53 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

1) How is a 60 year old man's horny blathering boys' talk? This sounds more like dirty old grandpa talk.
What's the cutoff age? And who made you age police? Is Mick Jagger becoming a dad against your policy?

There is no society where a sixty year old man is considered a "boy".
Mick Jagger is not running for POTUS.

Is there a rule that a sixty year old man feeling like a boy is disqualified from running for POTUS?

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:54 pm

FluteHolder wrote:Why did she destroy the 33,000 emails, even after the subpoena? What was she trying to hide so desperately? There is something very fishy there.

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This alone disqualifies her. Can any common man or ordinary citizen or an executive in a company can do similar act and get away with it?

The FBI investigated her and decided that there was no deliberate intent to hide. It is a question of whether you trust the institutions in this country. I do.

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:55 pm

Kinnera wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

1) How is a 60 year old man's horny blathering boys' talk? This sounds more like dirty old grandpa talk.
What's the cutoff age? And who made you age police? Is Mick Jagger becoming a dad against your policy?

There is no society where a sixty year old man is considered a "boy".
Mick Jagger is not running for POTUS.

Is there a rule that a sixty year old man feeling like a boy is disqualified from running for POTUS?

A sixty year old man who talks openly and without restraint about assaulting women should be disqualified from running for POTUS.

by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:00 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

1) How is a 60 year old man's horny blathering boys' talk? This sounds more like dirty old grandpa talk.
What's the cutoff age? And who made you age police? Is Mick Jagger becoming a dad against your policy?

There is no society where a sixty year old man is considered a "boy".
Mick Jagger is not running for POTUS.

Is there a rule that a sixty year old man feeling like a boy is disqualified from running for POTUS?

A sixty year old man who talks openly and without restraint about assaulting women should be disqualified from running for POTUS.

Talk about your imminent president's husband who'll be making his way into the white house the second time around.
People with curtains on their eyes!!

by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:01 pm

Kinnera wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
What's the cutoff age? And who made you age police? Is Mick Jagger becoming a dad against your policy?

There is no society where a sixty year old man is considered a "boy".
Mick Jagger is not running for POTUS.

Is there a rule that a sixty year old man feeling like a boy is disqualified from running for POTUS?

A sixty year old man who talks openly and without restraint about assaulting women should be disqualified from running for POTUS.

Talk about your imminent president's husband who'll be making his way into the white house the second time around.
People with curtains on their eyes!!

And an excellent counsel he will be, with ideas on how to make the economy perform better. After all, he has done it so successfully!

by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:07 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

There is no society where a sixty year old man is considered a "boy".
Mick Jagger is not running for POTUS.

Is there a rule that a sixty year old man feeling like a boy is disqualified from running for POTUS?

A sixty year old man who talks openly and without restraint about assaulting women should be disqualified from running for POTUS.

Talk about your imminent president's husband who'll be making his way into the white house the second time around.
People with curtains on their eyes!!

And an excellent counsel he will be, with ideas on how to make the economy perform better. After all, he has done it so successfully!

I guess he didn't give his 'excellent counseling' when she was the secretary of state. Her performance was dismal. Except for the execution of Osama, she has nothing to boast about. Everything else is a disaster.

by Idéfix Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:45 pm

FluteHolder wrote:Why did she destroy the 33,000 emails, even after the subpoena? What was she trying to hide so desperately? There is something very fishy there.

>>
This alone disqualifies her. Can any common man or ordinary citizen or an executive in a company can do similar act and get away with it?

Let me introduce you to George W. Bush. He was the 43rd president. He and his senior officials conducted official business on a private server. Guess how many emails they deleted... 66,000? 3.3 million? No, 22 million.

https://such.forumotion.com/t38800-those-missing-emails

by Idéfix Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:54 pm

Kinnera wrote:
I guess he didn't give his 'excellent counseling' when she was the secretary of state. Her performance was dismal. Except for the execution of Osama, she has nothing to boast about. Everything else is a disaster.

Here is the Pew Research Center's study on how America is viewed by other countries. Observe the improvement in America's international reputation during Clinton's term as Secretary of State.

Melania Trump's defense of the bus video BoP-Report-38

Melania Trump's defense of the bus video BoP-Report-38

http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/06/23/1-americas-global-image/

by Guest Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:59 pm

Idéfix wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:Why did she destroy the 33,000 emails, even after the subpoena? What was she trying to hide so desperately? There is something very fishy there.

>>
This alone disqualifies her. Can any common man or ordinary citizen or an executive in a company can do similar act and get away with it?
Let me introduce you to George W. Bush. He was the 43rd president. He and his senior officials conducted official business on a private server. Guess how many emails they deleted... 66,000? 3.3 million? No, 22 million.

https://such.forumotion.com/t38800-those-missing-emails

There's something called as 'C': "Classified". Was Bush subpoenaed?

by Idéfix Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:47 pm

Kinnera wrote:
Idéfix wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:Why did she destroy the 33,000 emails, even after the subpoena? What was she trying to hide so desperately? There is something very fishy there.

>>
This alone disqualifies her. Can any common man or ordinary citizen or an executive in a company can do similar act and get away with it?
Let me introduce you to George W. Bush. He was the 43rd president. He and his senior officials conducted official business on a private server. Guess how many emails they deleted... 66,000? 3.3 million? No, 22 million.

https://such.forumotion.com/t38800-those-missing-emails

There's something called as 'C': "Classified". Was Bush subpoenaed?

We don't know how many of the emails the Bush administration deleted from their private server were marked classified. There was no subpoena because Obama chose not to go on a witch-hunt about the previous administration that would jeopardize American institutions. The GOP Congress had no such qualms. As Kevin McCarthy confessed... https://youtu.be/6jIJ0g8EPs0

by Idéfix Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:00 pm

BTW, it is a half-truth that Clinton deleted emails after the subpoena. Here is what happened: after turning over what her lawyers said were work emails, Clinton's chief of staff asked their IT guys to delete personal emails. The IT guys failed to do that. Later the subpoena came, and then the it guys realized their mistake and deleted the emails. As Politifact summarized:

Comey added in a later congressional hearing that the FBI learned no one on Clinton’s staff specifically asked the employee to delete the emails following the New York Times story and subpoena. Rather, the employee made that decision on his own.

Clinton told the FBI that she did was not involved in deciding whether individual emails should be sent to State Department, nor "did she instruct anyone to delete her emails to avoid complying with FOIA, State or FBI requests for information."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/09/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-deleted-33000-em/

by truthbetold Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:26 pm

Clinton's e mails were 4 years old. As far as we know, nothing was hacked or fell into outsider's hands. Question is what was the damage to US interests because she used a private server? What is the big political problem that the opponents of her are trying to solve?

Can any one explain what she would have done differently if she were using a state department email server?

Republicans were angry that she was not charged and jailed making her ineligible to run for presidency. Instead of building arguments to win over people with good political policies, republican congress and its supporters have spent money and time to dislodge Hillary from race using a technicality.

They then go and find a highly flawed (every one knew about it and many warned about it) candidate and wonder why they cannot make Hillary's mistakes stick to her. Review the tapes from first debate and the week that followed (before bus tapes were revealed).

Who knows? A Jeb Bush or Kasich could have made Hillary's past a bigger burden for her. But self defeating, quarrelsome, and undisciplined Donald Trump wasted every opportunity he got to improve his chances.

Blame for the loss goes to Donald Trump and the republican culture that drives away smart good people from attempting to run for presidency.

by Idéfix Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:40 pm

truthbetold wrote:Blame for the loss goes to Donald Trump and the republican culture that drives away smart good people from attempting to run for presidency.

This. Anti-intellectualism is one of the big problems with the GOP. If you glorify stupidity, soon enough you will get Sarah Palin and Donald Trump. If Kasich were the nominee, Clinton would be losing big time.

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