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Post by ashdoc Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:37 am

http://yugaparivartan.com/2017/01/12/jallikattu-is-an-issue-of-national-integrity/

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:07 am

I spent first 18 yrs. of my life in a small village in H.P. before heading to the university / IIT for higher studies and had seen first-hand a number of real tamings of bulls (oxen) for agriculture in my village, but never anything like in these photos / pictures.
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Post by Maria S Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:12 am

Irrespective of the group, I can agree with many of the statements. 

It is also an issue of the State -Tamil Nadu's rights and integrity. Have learned a lot about Jallikattu and the history from many neutral observers and experts, and it is quite interesting. *While there may be incidents where there are injuries, apparently the animals are treated better than the humans, and there are guidelines and plenty of state regulations. 

No one can endorse animal cruelty..but, selectively going after the far less harmful ancient traditions in Tamil Nadu..while allowing cruelty like branding, castration, starvation..not to mention slaughtering of animals is strange and seems intentional (as a non-veg, it would hypocritical for me and others to criticize killing for food consumption). 

This is an article from July:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-36798500

In any case...good that now, it has brought attention and new laws are being passed to protect the tradition after massive protests.

It has certainly galvanized Tamilians to wake up, and be more alert and aware of the efforts to disrespect, and cause unnecessary interference by forces outside the State and India for business, profit making and other intentions.
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Post by Merlot Daruwala Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:15 am




ashdochttp://yugaparivartan.com/2017/01/12/jallikattu-is-an-issue-of-national-integrity/
Oh the chaddis are very concerned about the use of state machinery to interfere in the personal lives and beliefs of the people of India! Why is the same concern not expressed when every BJP ruled state banned the slaughter and consumption of bulls and bullocks??
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:16 am

These days, in AP, farmers are not using bulls for agriculture or transportation. In my village, they are all using tractors, etc. In fact, the sad thing is - I understand that when a male calf is born, it is killed! While I don't support this killing, there must be a civilized way to take care of bulls, cows, buffaloes, etc., and in controlling their population.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:21 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:



ashdochttp://yugaparivartan.com/2017/01/12/jallikattu-is-an-issue-of-national-integrity/
Oh the chaddis are very concerned about the use of state machinery to interfere in the personal lives and beliefs of the people of India! Why is the same concern not expressed when every BJP ruled state banned the slaughter and consumption of bulls and bullocks??
Chaddis, Sikular minds and DKheads should stop supporting abuse of bulls, goats, etc., in the name of jallikattu, cock fights, culture, VOTES......

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Post by Seva Lamberdar Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:22 am

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:These days, in AP, farmers are not using bulls for agriculture or transportation. In my village, they are all using tractors, etc. In fact, the sad thing is - I understand that when a male calf is born, it is killed! While I don't support this killing, there must be a civilized way to take care of bulls, cows, buffaloes, etc., and in controlling their population.

There can be some relief to this: "Going bullish with animal power" --- http://www.geocities.ws/lamberdar/animal_power.html
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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:29 am

Two things.

These demos are not about Jallikattu except for first couple of them in Jallikattu areas. Then it morphed into Hindian rule over Tamil Nadu. In Chennaiu Marina there are more placards about Cauvery, fishermen, Eelem Tamil rights than jallikattu. There was a banner of the commander. There were banners saying we are Tamil not Indians.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:31 am

I looked at some jALLIkattu videos. I do not see bulls injured or harmed. Traditionally these bulls were never hurt. They were harassed.

If PETA has problems they should go to TN gov and not Hindians in Delhi. TN gov will look into it.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:59 am

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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:00 am

slogan heard at chennai marina

“Modhalla Maadu, Apparum Thani Tamil Nadu.”
“First the bull and then a separate Tamil Nadu.”

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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:03 am

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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:14 am

Will January 26 Hindi parade turn violent?

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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:21 am

demonstrators were accused of burning police vehicle. But video shows a police man setting fire to the vehicle

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:48 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:Will January 26 Hindi parade turn violent?
It is called Independence day. If you don't like India, get the hell out. We'll all help in pushing you off our land. Your buddies - DKheads - supported the Justice party which was in favor of English ars-licking. Traitors and Desh drohis.

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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:04 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:Will January 26 Hindi parade turn violent?
It is called Independence day.
 Really? Check the civics book you used at CBSE schools

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:08 pm

Kayalvizhi wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:Will January 26 Hindi parade turn violent?
It is called Independence day.
 Really? Check the civics book you used at CBSE schools
You are a fanatic. Go back to your LTTE and get the hell out of India.

And stop lying:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Party_(India)

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Post by Kayalvizhi Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:16 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Kayalvizhi wrote:Will January 26 Hindi parade turn violent?
It is called Independence day.
 Really? Check the civics book you used at CBSE schools
You are a fanatic.

"Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no crime" - Goldwater

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