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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:46 pm

The horrific shooting of Srinivas in Kansas, as pointed out by Mohan J Dutta from National University Singapore in an article in The Wire, draws some interesting parallels with the brutal lynching of Muhammed Ikhlaq in Dadri (Uttar Pradesh) in 2015. Both became victims of anti-minority violence and just as Modi’s otherwise busy Twitter handle went silent on Ikhlaq’s murder, so did Trump on Srinivas. Pressure and outrage finally compelled Trump to cough up a condemnation, but Ikhlaq’s death, however, continues to be mired in the debate over whether his fridge actually contained beef.

India’s home minister Rajnath Singh’s subsequent entreaties to the US government “to restore the faith of minorities” smacks more of hypocrisy than irony. An odd choice of words from the minister of home, moreover, given that loud noises about ‘minority appeasement’ have been central to Modi and the BJP’s majoritarian politics. Since the BJP government coming to power, in fact, minorities in India have on instance also been stunned by unexpected acts of ‘official pettiness’. Notably, the government’s decision to treat Christmas day in 2014 as ‘good governance day’.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/opinion/intolerance-in-us-why-modi-s-nationalism-no-longer-works-for-indian-americans-opinion/story-bivGRPnG2m8GgfSEhQKT3I.html

Haven't I been shouting my lungs out forever on the hypocrisy of NRI patriots.

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Post by Shyam Sundar Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:54 pm

Are you a Muslim?

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:07 pm

Shyam Sundar wrote:Are you a Muslim?
He belongs to the same gurukula that Rashmun attended. His friend Jaganmohan Reddy is not doing well these days.......

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:08 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Shyam Sundar wrote:Are you a Muslim?
He belongs to the same gurukula that Rashmun attended. His friend Jaganmohan Reddy is not doing well these days.......

CD does have a point. Why don't you try and address it instead of replying with sarcasm? You are rightly indignant of the violence against minorities in the US. One wishes you'd apply the same judgment to violence against minorities in India.
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Post by Idéfix Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:29 pm

The irony is that the Kansas shooter is probably upset that Muslims kill white Christians. For some people, killing is OK if the victims are of other communities, and killing is awful if the victims are of their communities. Such people can be found here, among Indians, and among Americans.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:53 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Shyam Sundar wrote:Are you a Muslim?
He belongs to the same gurukula that Rashmun attended. His friend Jaganmohan Reddy is not doing well these days.......

CD does have a point. Why don't you try and address it instead of replying with sarcasm? You are rightly indignant of the violence against minorities in the US. One wishes you'd apply the same judgment to violence against minorities in India.
In the US or India, violence against minorities is deplorable. However, asking the majority to think of itself only as the bad dude, won't work forever. I agree with the caution on tyranny of the majority but don't agree with the Sikularist strategy of excessive appeasement of minorities to garner votes.

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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:47 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Shyam Sundar wrote:Are you a Muslim?
He belongs to the same gurukula that Rashmun attended. His friend Jaganmohan Reddy is not doing well these days.......

CD does have a point. Why don't you try and address it instead of replying with sarcasm? You are rightly indignant of the violence against minorities in the US. One wishes you'd apply the same judgment to violence against minorities in India.
In the US or India, violence against minorities is deplorable. However, asking the majority to think of itself only as the bad dude, won't work forever. I agree with the caution on tyranny of the majority but don't agree with the Sikularist strategy of excessive appeasement of minorities to garner votes.
In other words, killing someone in mere suspicion of holding on to illegal meat is perfectly justified because they're beneficiaries of excessive appeasement. Doesn't the same logic apply for the appeasement of beneficiaries of H1-B visas?

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:06 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Shyam Sundar wrote:Are you a Muslim?
He belongs to the same gurukula that Rashmun attended. His friend Jaganmohan Reddy is not doing well these days.......

CD does have a point. Why don't you try and address it instead of replying with sarcasm? You are rightly indignant of the violence against minorities in the US. One wishes you'd apply the same judgment to violence against minorities in India.
In the US or India, violence against minorities is deplorable. However, asking the majority to think of itself only as the bad dude, won't work forever. I agree with the caution on tyranny of the majority but don't agree with the Sikularist strategy of excessive appeasement of minorities to garner votes.
In other words, killing someone in mere suspicion of holding on to illegal meat is perfectly justified because they're beneficiaries of excessive appeasement. Doesn't the same logic apply for the appeasement of beneficiaries of H1-B visas?
You are just Sikularly over interpreting what I wrote. Let me give an example - not implementing a uniform civil code because you don't want to hurt the sentiments of a minority (actually, don't want to lose their votes).

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Post by confuzzled dude Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:10 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
He belongs to the same gurukula that Rashmun attended. His friend Jaganmohan Reddy is not doing well these days.......

CD does have a point. Why don't you try and address it instead of replying with sarcasm? You are rightly indignant of the violence against minorities in the US. One wishes you'd apply the same judgment to violence against minorities in India.
In the US or India, violence against minorities is deplorable. However, asking the majority to think of itself only as the bad dude, won't work forever. I agree with the caution on tyranny of the majority but don't agree with the Sikularist strategy of excessive appeasement of minorities to garner votes.
In other words, killing someone in mere suspicion of holding on to illegal meat is perfectly justified because they're beneficiaries of excessive appeasement. Doesn't the same logic apply for the appeasement of beneficiaries of H1-B visas?
You are just Sikularly over interpreting what I wrote. Let me give an example - not implementing a uniform civil code because you don't want to hurt the sentiments of a minority (actually, don't want to lose their votes).
What has UCC got to do with eating beef? If they suspected him of eating beef they could've filed a complaint and dragged him to court which would have taught him a lesson if it indeed was beef.

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Post by Merlot Daruwala Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:38 am

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Shyam Sundar wrote:Are you a Muslim?
He belongs to the same gurukula that Rashmun attended. His friend Jaganmohan Reddy is not doing well these days.......

CD does have a point. Why don't you try and address it instead of replying with sarcasm? You are rightly indignant of the violence against minorities in the US. One wishes you'd apply the same judgment to violence against minorities in India.
In the US or India, violence against minorities is deplorable. However, asking the majority to think of itself only as the bad dude, won't work forever. I agree with the caution on tyranny of the majority but don't agree with the Sikularist strategy of excessive appeasement of minorities to garner votes.

Ya unkil, keep swinging at the strawmen. That way, you don't have to confront your own hypocrisies.
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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:27 am

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
Shyam Sundar wrote:Are you a Muslim?
He belongs to the same gurukula that Rashmun attended. His friend Jaganmohan Reddy is not doing well these days.......

CD does have a point. Why don't you try and address it instead of replying with sarcasm? You are rightly indignant of the violence against minorities in the US. One wishes you'd apply the same judgment to violence against minorities in India.
In the US or India, violence against minorities is deplorable. However, asking the majority to think of itself only as the bad dude, won't work forever. I agree with the caution on tyranny of the majority but don't agree with the Sikularist strategy of excessive appeasement of minorities to garner votes.

Ya unkil, keep swinging at the strawmen. That way, you don't have to confront your own hypocrisies.
Good to know your Sikular view on this.

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