Israel is an extremely communal and racist country......

Idéfix wrote:Guruvu-gaaru, it is.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.

haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.

haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?

Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.

rawemotions wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.

haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?

Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.

Both of them might trouble folks who sleep. 
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.

Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ? 

4x	ٱللهُ أَكْبَر	Allāhu akbar	Allah1 is the greatest.
2x	أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ	Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh	I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1.
2x	أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله	Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh	I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood).
2x	حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة	Hayya'alas-ṣalāh	Hasten to prayer (Salah).
2x	حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح	Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ	Hasten to success.
2x 2 *(Only for Fajr prayer)	ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم	As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm	Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3
2x	الله أكبر	Allāhu akbar	God1 is greatest.
1x	لا إله إلا الله	Lā ilāha illā-Allāh	There is no god but Allah1.

rawemotions wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.

haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?

Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.

Both of them might trouble folks who sleep. 
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.

Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ? 

4x	ٱللهُ أَكْبَر	Allāhu akbar	Allah1 is the greatest.
2x	أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ	Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh	I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1.
2x	أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله	Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh	I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood).
2x	حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة	Hayya'alas-ṣalāh	Hasten to prayer (Salah).
2x	حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح	Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ	Hasten to success.
2x 2 *(Only for Fajr prayer)	ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم	As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm	Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3
2x	الله أكبر	Allāhu akbar	God1 is greatest.
1x	لا إله إلا الله	Lā ilāha illā-Allāh	There is no god but Allah1.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:

rawemotions wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.

haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?

Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.

Both of them might trouble folks who sleep. 
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.

Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ? 

4x	ٱللهُ أَكْبَر	Allāhu akbar	Allah1 is the greatest.
2x	أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ	Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh	I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1.
2x	أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله	Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh	I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood).
2x	حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة	Hayya'alas-ṣalāh	Hasten to prayer (Salah).
2x	حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح	Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ	Hasten to success.
2x 2 *(Only for Fajr prayer)	ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم	As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm	Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3
2x	الله أكبر	Allāhu akbar	God1 is greatest.
1x	لا إله إلا الله	Lā ilāha illā-Allāh	There is no god but Allah1.

Actually, Allah is just a generic name in Arabic for "God". It is not that their God is better than others. They are indoctrinated to think that their version of this "God" is the accurate one. Going a step further, Semitic faiths think that other versions are not correct and some may even be worshipping the devil (and may end up in hell)...... It is unfortunate that all the added BS is clouding the original dogma - that there is just one God in the universe.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

rawemotions wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:I am for putting reasonable restrictions on loud calls for prayer and loud music on loudspeakers during the early morning hours. I remember being awakened every morning at 4.30 AM by the Muezzin's calls to prayer followed by L.R.Eashwari's irritating Mariaththa songs on a loud and tinny loudspeaker. Both should be muzzled until a more reasonable hour, like say 6 or 7 AM.

haha...not so much the proponent of freedom for everyone when it's inconvenient for you huh?

Eh? It's called disturbing the peace. Every free society has such laws.

Both of them might trouble folks who sleep. 
However, songs in praise of Hindu gods are NOT equivalent to Muslim call to Prayers.
The translation of the Adhan is given below.

Can you please explain how the words in RED below are consistent with secularism where all religions are supposed to be treated equal ? 

4x	ٱللهُ أَكْبَر	Allāhu akbar	Allah1 is the greatest.
2x	أَشْهََدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللهُ	Ash-hadu an-lā ilāha illā allāh	I acknowledge that there is no god but Allah1.
2x	أَشْهََدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رُسُولُ ٱلله	Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan-Rasul ullāh	I acknowledge that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah (After prophethood).
2x	حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلصَّلاة	Hayya'alas-ṣalāh	Hasten to prayer (Salah).
2x	حَيَّ عَلَىٰ ٱلْفَلاَح	Hayya ʿalal-falāḥ	Hasten to success.
2x 2 *(Only for Fajr prayer)	ٍٱلصَّلاَةُ خَيْرٌ مِنَ ٱلنَّوم	As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm	Prayer is better than sleep (Recited only for Fajr prayer's Adhan)3
2x	الله أكبر	Allāhu akbar	God1 is greatest.
1x	لا إله إلا الله	Lā ilāha illā-Allāh	There is no god but Allah1.

That's why I prefer the American idea (not in the current broken form, but when it is working like it's supposed to) of secularism -- equal indifference towards all religions.