H-M synthesis through paintings: Jahangir, Emperor of India, in conversation with Hindu monk Jadrup

Rashmun wrote:

In his autobiography, Jahangir writes that he would frequently visit the cave of Jadrup where the two men would discuss 'the science of Vedanta'. Noteworthy is the fact that Jahangir would personally go to meet Jadrup; he would not ask his men to fetch Jadrup before him (which he could easily have done).

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

In his autobiography, Jahangir writes that he would frequently visit the cave of Jadrup where the two men would discuss 'the science of Vedanta'. Noteworthy is the fact that Jahangir would personally go to meet Jadrup; he would not ask his men to fetch Jadrup before him (which he could easily have done).

This is a Kangra painting style, which was there even before Jehangir's time. Jehangir was Indian by birth btw, so what are you trying to say (H/M synthesis?)

Rashmun wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

In his autobiography, Jahangir writes that he would frequently visit the cave of Jadrup where the two men would discuss 'the science of Vedanta'. Noteworthy is the fact that Jahangir would personally go to meet Jadrup; he would not ask his men to fetch Jadrup before him (which he could easily have done).

This is a Kangra painting style, which was there even before Jehangir's time. Jehangir was Indian by birth btw, so what are you trying to say (H/M synthesis?)

Kangra painting style originated long after Jahangir's death. Jahangir was an indian by birth, but he was not a hindu by birth.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

In his autobiography, Jahangir writes that he would frequently visit the cave of Jadrup where the two men would discuss 'the science of Vedanta'. Noteworthy is the fact that Jahangir would personally go to meet Jadrup; he would not ask his men to fetch Jadrup before him (which he could easily have done).

This is a Kangra painting style, which was there even before Jehangir's time. Jehangir was Indian by birth btw, so what are you trying to say (H/M synthesis?)

Kangra painting style originated long after Jahangir's death. Jahangir was an indian by birth, but he was not a hindu by birth.

Kangra style of paining has been there for a long time --- long before Jehangir, and at least as old as the Kangra Fort (which even Akbar had attacked and tried to take over).  Jehangir's Muslim religion does not prove

Rashmun wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:

In his autobiography, Jahangir writes that he would frequently visit the cave of Jadrup where the two men would discuss 'the science of Vedanta'. Noteworthy is the fact that Jahangir would personally go to meet Jadrup; he would not ask his men to fetch Jadrup before him (which he could easily have done).

This is a Kangra painting style, which was there even before Jehangir's time. Jehangir was Indian by birth btw, so what are you trying to say (H/M synthesis?)

Kangra painting style originated long after Jahangir's death. Jahangir was an indian by birth, but he was not a hindu by birth.

Kangra style of paining has been there for a long time --- long before Jehangir, and at least as old as the Kangra Fort (which even Akbar had attacked and tried to take over).  Jehangir's Muslim religion does not prove

Jahangir died in 1627 AD. internet sources i have read say that the kangra painting style originated long after Jahangir's death. See for example:

1. http://www.culturopedia.com/Painting/kangrap.html

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangra_painting

Rashmun wrote:

Young man reading a book.
Mughal, ca. 1600. Ink, gold and watercolor on paper. More Persian than Indian in style.

https://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/museums/bm/bmmughal.html

Rashmun wrote:please comment on whether these paintings of Jahangir are also kangra style:

Rashmun wrote:there are many distinctive features in the mughal paintings i shared which are absent in the painting you give. for instance, the presence of the special nimbus (with sun and moon), the winged angels, Jahangir on lion, Jahangir sitting on hour glass (representing Time), etc.

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:there are many distinctive features in the mughal paintings i shared which are absent in the painting you give. for instance, the presence of the special nimbus (with sun and moon), the winged angels, Jahangir on lion, Jahangir sitting on hour glass (representing Time), etc.

Showing Jehangir sitting on hourglass, along with the presence of sun and moon in the painting makes it a different painting while the style of painting remains the same. It's like two paintings in the same style, one showing a buffalo eating grass and the other showing a cow being milked --- they merely represent different images / objects in the same painting style.

Rashmun wrote:

Seva Lamberdar wrote:

Rashmun wrote:there are many distinctive features in the mughal paintings i shared which are absent in the painting you give. for instance, the presence of the special nimbus (with sun and moon), the winged angels, Jahangir on lion, Jahangir sitting on hour glass (representing Time), etc.

Showing Jehangir sitting on hourglass, along with the presence of sun and moon in the painting makes it a different painting while the style of painting remains the same. It's like two paintings in the same style, one showing a buffalo eating grass and the other showing a cow being milked --- they merely represent different images / objects in the same painting style.

i disagree. if essential components in a mughal painting, like the winged angels, are absent in the kangra style paintings it means we are dealing with two distinct painting styles. Also the kangra style paintings  typically showed (almost always) an outdoor setting--Krishna and Radha relaxing in a forest or on fields for example. Mughal paintings could show both an outdoor as well as an indoor setting.