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Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by Ponniyin Selvan on Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:33 am

http://www.hindustantimes.com/bengaluru/bengaluru-metro-signboards-defaced-again-by-pro-kannada-outfit/story-kpaShvRFZ0341WqK1pB5uM.html

Signboards at Bengaluru’s Metro stations were defaced again on Thursday, with Hindi letters painted over in black.
The Karnataka Rakshana Vedike (Forum for protection of Karnataka), a hardline pro-Kannada fringe group, claimed the responsibility for vandalising the boards at eight stations.
“We are willing to face the law... but we will not stop our movement till the imposition of Hindi stops,” KRV leader TA Narayana Gowda said.
Earlier this month, Hindi signs were papered over at two stations. Names of stations are written in Kannada, English and Hindi.
The KRV defaced some boards earlier this year as well but the row has escalated after the some sharp exchanges between the Congress-ruled state and at the BJP government at the Centre.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man on Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:07 am

I am glad that while Tamilians seem to be wilting (if one were to believe Rashmun) on this issue, Kannadigas have taken up the continuing fight. India does not need a national language, especially an extra-constitutional sneakily enforced national language.

Good going Kannadigas!
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Post by Ponniyin Selvan on Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:38 am

No.. Tamilians are not wilting. just giving leadership role to Kannadigas this time. 

In fact, we have now support from a lot of other linguistic nationalities.

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Re: Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by garam_kuta on Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:27 pm

கன்னடர் களமிறங்கிய​ காட்சிதனை கற்கத் தகுந்த​ தோழமையின் ஒற்றுமைச் சாற்றென​ கரை ஒதுங்கியவர் காணுதல் வேண்டும்

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Re: Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by FluteHolder on Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:04 pm

Though they realized late, (Some Kannadigas and Some Telugus) who are/were supporting Hindi's unnecessary / unqualified superiority over other Indian/classical languages, now should be realizing their mistake and learn from it.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man on Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:32 pm

The sneakiness is bothersome. If they want Hindi hegemony, they should simply say it openly and take the consequences. Changing signboards overnight without a proper public referendum or even a discussion smacks of a furtive and oily government.
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Re: Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by garam_kuta on Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:20 pm

Insidious insertion of Hindi as a link language
at 17:30 and 27:30


hilarious, starting at 3:44

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Re: Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by Ponniyin Selvan on Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:57 pm

FluteHolder wrote:Though they realized late, (Some Kannadigas and Some Telugus) who are/were supporting Hindi's unnecessary / unqualified superiority over other Indian/classical languages, now should be realizing their mistake and learn from it.

I think they are realizing now, how they are fooled by this three language formula. 

Thanks to the hordes of Hindians starting from white collar ones to those selling pani puris migrating to Bengaluru for a living but treat the local Kannadigas and Kannada language like dirt. There are folks who are living for decades in Bengaluru with an air of superiority and unwillingness to learn even some basic Kannada. 

It is that colonial attitude of Hindians that is riling up the locals everywhere.

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Post by silvermani on Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:15 pm

FluteHolder wrote:Though they realized late, (Some Kannadigas and Some Telugus) who are/were supporting Hindi's unnecessary / unqualified superiority over other Indian/classical languages, now should be realizing their mistake and learn from it.
They have been brainwashed into believing that opposing the imposition of Hindi is unpatriotic as it is the so called "national language". Also, opponents of Hindi imposition need to make it clear that they have nothing against the Hindi language itself but are only opposed to it being forced upon them.
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Re: Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by Ponniyin Selvan on Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:55 pm

silvermani wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:Though they realized late, (Some Kannadigas and Some Telugus) who are/were supporting Hindi's unnecessary / unqualified superiority over other Indian/classical languages, now should be realizing their mistake and learn from it.
They have been brainwashed into believing that opposing the imposition of Hindi is unpatriotic as it is the so called "national language". Also, opponents of Hindi imposition need to make it clear that they have nothing against the Hindi language itself but are only opposed to it being forced upon them.

All of us have been brainwashed into believing in the idea of India as some unitary political entity with injected doses of nationalism / patriotism etc.. In reality, India is as diverse as Europe or much more diverse than Europe. Once people realize that, everything will fall into the right place.

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Post by FluteHolder on Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:18 pm

India is much more complex and ancient than Europe and need not follow the same way. If those in power realize this and respect for each language and culture without giving undue superiority to Hindi that should be enough. No need of separatist/independent aspirations..

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka on Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:45 pm

FluteHolder wrote:India is much more complex and ancient than Europe and need not follow the same way. If those in power realize this and respect for each language and culture without giving undue superiority to Hindi that should be enough. No need of separatist/independent aspirations..
Indeed!

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Re: Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by garam_kuta on Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:05 am

FluteHolder wrote:India is much more complex and ancient than Europe and need not follow the same way. If those in power realize this and respect for each language and culture without giving undue superiority to Hindi that should be enough. No need of separatist/independent aspirations..

Imposing religious supremacy has been/is the major root cause for most tragedies of human dignity and suppression; adding language hegemony is a vicious assault on peaceful existence and harmony. Languages need to continually enrich by adopting from each other's vocab and evolve, not only for facile communication but also for embellishments in literature, music etc.,

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Post by Ponniyin Selvan on Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:20 pm

FluteHolder wrote:India is much more complex and ancient than Europe and need not follow the same way. If those in power realize this and respect for each language and culture without giving undue superiority to Hindi that should be enough. No need of separatist/independent aspirations..

It depends on whether India changes from the current colonial model to a real democratic and federal state.

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Re: Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by Ponniyin Selvan on Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:21 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:India is much more complex and ancient than Europe and need not follow the same way. If those in power realize this and respect for each language and culture without giving undue superiority to Hindi that should be enough. No need of separatist/independent aspirations..

Imposing religious supremacy has been/is the major root cause for most tragedies of human dignity and suppression; adding language hegemony is a vicious  assault on peaceful existence and harmony. Languages need to continually enrich by adopting from each other's vocab and evolve, not only for facile communication but also for embellishments in literature, music etc.,

Yes. Perfect.

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Post by Vakavaka Pakapaka on Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:10 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:India is much more complex and ancient than Europe and need not follow the same way. If those in power realize this and respect for each language and culture without giving undue superiority to Hindi that should be enough. No need of separatist/independent aspirations..

Imposing religious supremacy has been/is the major root cause for most tragedies of human dignity and suppression; adding language hegemony is a vicious  assault on peaceful existence and harmony. Languages need to continually enrich by adopting from each other's vocab and evolve, not only for facile communication but also for embellishments in literature, music etc.,
Yeah. However, there is no need to foster separatism. Since the finance system is now more state-friendly, a proper federal structure and devolution of power can be negotiated. Perhaps, if the Southern states can coordinate in this effort, there will be results. However, I don't see that coming. One thing that needs to be centralized, however, is water resources.

It is silly to insist on Hindi as the national language in a country with so many established languages.

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Re: Good news from Karnataka on the anti Hindi front.

Post by Kayalvizhi on Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:16 pm

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
there is no need to foster separatism. Since the finance system is now more state-friendly,

Independence for any Indian occupied nation that wants it must be granted.

Now where did you get the idea that finance system is NOW state friendly?

UP gets Rs. 179 for every Rs. 100 it pays in Indian taxes while Tamil Nadu gets back Rs. 40 and Kerala gets back Rs. 35.

Do you see that UP is not contributing anything to defense, Hindi propagation, etc but gets money transferred to it from TN and Kerala, etc

Only solution is independence for any nation that wants it.

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