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by desi aunty Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:08 pm
haters gonna say how the brits love to highlight and exaggerate the dark side of india, but who can deny the fact behind such a widespread thought process which takes this form when it hits its extreme
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51504992
College students living in a hostel in the western Indian state of Gujarat have complained that they were made to strip and show their underwear to female teachers to prove that they were not menstruating.
The 68 young women were pulled out of classrooms and taken to the toilet, where they were asked to individually remove their knickers for inspection.
The incident took place in the city of Bhuj on Tuesday. The young women are undergraduate students at Shree Sahajanand Girls Institute (SSGI), which is run by Swaminarayan sect, a wealthy and conservative Hindu religious group.
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Discrimination against women on account of menstruation is widespread in India, where periods have long been a taboo and menstruating women are considered impure. They are often excluded from social and religious events, denied entry into temples and shrines and kept out of kitchens.
Increasingly, urban educated women have been challenging these regressive ideas. In the past few years, attempts have been made to see periods for just what they are - a natural biological function.
But success has been patchy.
In 2018, the top court in a landmark order threw open the doors of the Sabarimala shrine to women of all ages, saying that keeping women out of the temple in the southern state of Kerala was discriminatory.
But a year later, the judges agreed to review the order after massive protests in the state.
Surprisingly, the protesters included a large number of women - an indication of how deeply rooted the stigma over menstruation is.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51504992
College students living in a hostel in the western Indian state of Gujarat have complained that they were made to strip and show their underwear to female teachers to prove that they were not menstruating.
The 68 young women were pulled out of classrooms and taken to the toilet, where they were asked to individually remove their knickers for inspection.
The incident took place in the city of Bhuj on Tuesday. The young women are undergraduate students at Shree Sahajanand Girls Institute (SSGI), which is run by Swaminarayan sect, a wealthy and conservative Hindu religious group.
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Discrimination against women on account of menstruation is widespread in India, where periods have long been a taboo and menstruating women are considered impure. They are often excluded from social and religious events, denied entry into temples and shrines and kept out of kitchens.
Increasingly, urban educated women have been challenging these regressive ideas. In the past few years, attempts have been made to see periods for just what they are - a natural biological function.
But success has been patchy.
In 2018, the top court in a landmark order threw open the doors of the Sabarimala shrine to women of all ages, saying that keeping women out of the temple in the southern state of Kerala was discriminatory.
But a year later, the judges agreed to review the order after massive protests in the state.
Surprisingly, the protesters included a large number of women - an indication of how deeply rooted the stigma over menstruation is.
desi aunty- Posts : 251
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Re: period shaming
by Kris Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:32 pm
I don’t understand. If they were menstruating, they can’t attend classes?
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Re: period shaming
by desi aunty Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:37 pm
oh i tried clicking the link above and apparently i had some copy paste error.. also copying some text about the 'rules'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51504992
They said a hostel official had complained to the college principal on Monday that some of the students were breaking rules menstruating women are supposed to follow.
According to these rules, women are barred from entering the temple and the kitchen and are not allowed to touch other students during their periods.
At meal times, they have to sit away from others, they have to clean their own dishes, and in the classroom, they are expected to sit on the last bench.
One of the students told BBC Gujarati's Prashant Gupta that the hostel maintains a register where they are expected to enter their names when they get their periods, which helps the authorities to identify them.
But for the past two months, not one student had entered her name in the register - perhaps not surprising considering the restrictions they have to put up with if they do.
So on Monday, the hostel official complained to the principal that menstruating students were entering the kitchen, going near the temple, and mingling with other hostellers.
The students allege that, the next day, they were abused by the hostel official and the principal before they were forced to strip.
They described what happened to them as a "very painful experience" that had left them "traumatised" and amounted to "mental torture".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51504992
They said a hostel official had complained to the college principal on Monday that some of the students were breaking rules menstruating women are supposed to follow.
According to these rules, women are barred from entering the temple and the kitchen and are not allowed to touch other students during their periods.
At meal times, they have to sit away from others, they have to clean their own dishes, and in the classroom, they are expected to sit on the last bench.
One of the students told BBC Gujarati's Prashant Gupta that the hostel maintains a register where they are expected to enter their names when they get their periods, which helps the authorities to identify them.
But for the past two months, not one student had entered her name in the register - perhaps not surprising considering the restrictions they have to put up with if they do.
So on Monday, the hostel official complained to the principal that menstruating students were entering the kitchen, going near the temple, and mingling with other hostellers.
The students allege that, the next day, they were abused by the hostel official and the principal before they were forced to strip.
They described what happened to them as a "very painful experience" that had left them "traumatised" and amounted to "mental torture".
desi aunty- Posts : 251
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Re: period shaming
by Kris Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:30 pm
I didn’t think this stuff about the kitchen was still around and the temple business seems archaic. I thought this is at least two generations ago.I guess these guys are stuck in the past.
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Re: period shaming
by Kris Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:06 pm
>>> how so? aren’t these religion based superstitions regardless of who is in power?confuzzled dude wrote:Welcome to Godses' and Modis' India.
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Re: period shaming
by confuzzled dude Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:12 pm
Every religious nutcase (Hindu variety, in this case) is emboldened by looking at the two nutcases at the top, who emphasize and value superstitions ( via their numerous speeches) more than human dignity or life.Kris wrote:>>> how so? aren’t these religion based superstitions regardless of who is in power?confuzzled dude wrote:Welcome to Godses' and Modis' India.
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Re: period shaming
by Seva Lamberdar Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:14 am
It's a privately run religious school. The school guidelines for menstruating females (including school girls) to not enter the community kitchen (cooking place) and the worship area must already be known to everyone seeking admission to the school, including students' parents. So, why this fuss! It's not something they didn't know earlier as a condition to enroll in the school. There is a saying which applies here literally, "if you can't stand the heat, stay out of kitchen."Kris wrote:>>> how so? aren’t these religion based superstitions regardless of who is in power?confuzzled dude wrote:Welcome to Godses' and Modis' India.
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Re: period shaming
by Kris Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:39 am
Seva,
The point is not whether they were within their legal rights to have weird rules. The question is why do they have these rules altogether? Suppose a school has a rule that blacks or Dalits can’t enroll and invokes some religious rule to justify it, should society allow this? There are limits to everything. As a minimum, one would think they should keep up with the times. Checking of the girls in this fashion is absolutely de-humanizing.
The point is not whether they were within their legal rights to have weird rules. The question is why do they have these rules altogether? Suppose a school has a rule that blacks or Dalits can’t enroll and invokes some religious rule to justify it, should society allow this? There are limits to everything. As a minimum, one would think they should keep up with the times. Checking of the girls in this fashion is absolutely de-humanizing.
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Re: period shaming
by Seva Lamberdar Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:00 am
Kris,Kris wrote:Seva,
The point is not whether they were within their legal rights to have weird rules. The question is why do they have these rules altogether? Suppose a school has a rule that blacks or Dalits can’t enroll and invokes some religious rule to justify it, should society allow this? There are limits to everything. As a minimum, one would think they should keep up with the times. Checking of the girls in this fashion is absolutely de-humanizing.
It's the strict living and rules in these private schools, including some rules that make no sense to others (including you and I), that some parents prefer to send their kids (girls especially) to study there.
Here the blame is mostly with the parents, for having opted at their free will to send their daughters to a school where they know already that there are restrictions including on the menstruating females to not enter the kitchen and prayer area.
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Re: period shaming
by Seva Lamberdar Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:23 pm
Btw, my take on the general issue of menstruation is included in the following,Seva Lamberdar wrote:Kris,Kris wrote:Seva,
The point is not whether they were within their legal rights to have weird rules. The question is why do they have these rules altogether? Suppose a school has a rule that blacks or Dalits can’t enroll and invokes some religious rule to justify it, should society allow this? There are limits to everything. As a minimum, one would think they should keep up with the times. Checking of the girls in this fashion is absolutely de-humanizing.
It's the strict living and rules in these private schools, including some rules that make no sense to others (including you and I), that some parents prefer to send their kids (girls especially) to study there.
Here the blame is mostly with the parents, for having opted at their free will to send their daughters to a school where they know already that there are restrictions including on the menstruating females to not enter the kitchen and prayer area.
https://such.forumotion.com/t46680-the-temple-entry-and-worship-in-the-case-of-women
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