Univ of Il, Urbana-Champaign

by Guest Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:11 pm

For undergrad in Computer Engineering. Good school or not? Is it worth spending out-of-state tuition for that? Your inputs will be greatly appreciated. TIA.

by Hellsangel Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:12 pm

Very good school.

by Petrichor Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:34 pm

nenu wrote:For undergrad in Computer Engineering. Good school or not? Is it worth spending out-of-state tuition for that? Your inputs will be greatly appreciated. TIA.

Congrats Nenu! Comp Engg sounds like a very good deal.

by truthbetold Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:37 pm

For computer engineering, urbana is among the best in the country.

by FluteHolder Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:49 pm

Congrats.

Just curious why most desi kids prefer the out of state colleges? I have seen quite a few desi kids seek out of state colleges though there are good schools available in their home state/city. Also have seen Tambram kids go to local colleges/schools and commute from home too (no college/hostel stay).

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:52 pm

nenu wrote:For undergrad in Computer Engineering. Good school or not? Is it worth spending out-of-state tuition for that? Your inputs will be greatly appreciated. TIA.

from what i've heard and seen in reports, one of the best in the u.s. for undergrad education in engineering; in the top four to six. i have no info about the computer engineering major.

for more info, see the ranking published by u.s. news and world report; browse the collegeconfidential web site.

u of i, u-c is not an institute of technology; that's good in my eyes, because it would have the resources for a student's pursuit of a wider range of interests.

by indophile Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:03 pm

I know their Electrical Engineering program is rated among the best in the country. Don't know much about their Computer Engg, however.

by Idéfix Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:04 pm

Congratulations! It is one of the very best. I knew some alums and think highly of them.

by Maria S Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:09 pm

In general, it's a very good University.

*In my view, financial affordability is always a consideration. If it's a non-issue and affordable (depending on your own family situation and the financial package offered), don't have to worry at all.

If it is something you have to think about - loans and other assistance, would compare with other Univs, before making the decision.

by Maria S Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:41 pm

Was looking up rankings and tuition:

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate

*The ofs tuition for Univ of Il U-Ch seems quite reasonable at $28,570 (2012-13)
Good luck to your son!

by Guest Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:01 pm

Cool. Congrats!

I had got into this for masters. But decided to chose the one in NY, as K was here.

by garam_kuta Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:19 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:Cool. Congrats!

I had got into this for masters. But decided to chose the one in NY, as K was here.

sp??

by Jeremiah Mburuburu Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:24 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:Cool. Congrats!

I had got into this for masters. But decided to chose the one in NY, as K was here.

"choose," not "chose." the two words are pronounced differently.

by Guest Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:37 pm

garam_kuta wrote:
Vidya Bagchi wrote:Cool. Congrats!

I had got into this for masters. But decided to chose the one in NY, as K was here.

sp??

Meaning NY. You do the correct sentence now. Lol.

by Guest Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:38 pm

Jeremiah Mburuburu wrote:
Vidya Bagchi wrote:Cool. Congrats!

I had got into this for masters. But decided to chose the one in NY, as K was here.
"choose," not "chose." the two words are pronounced differently.

I feel sorry to make you dumb down your spell check levels. Lol.

by Idéfix Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:16 pm

Vidya Bagchi wrote:Cool. Congrats!

I had got into this for masters. But decided to chose the one in NY, as K was here.

UIUC was in the news big time back then. Netscape, the IPO that made dot-com a household name, came out of the work of UIUC grad students (or post-docs) I believe.

by Guest Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:17 pm

Thank you very much everyone. I appreciate your inputs a lot. It does help with the decision making. Thanks again!

by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:26 pm

it's a great eng school. don't know anything about computer engineering.

by Guest Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:44 pm

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/computer-engineering-rankings

It's ranked 4th in Computer Engineering in US. I was more focused on other universities and didn't care much about this one till now. I'm learning more about it today.
Being in the Honors program is an added bonus too, I guess.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:54 pm

nenu wrote:For undergrad in Computer Engineering. Good school or not? Is it worth spending out-of-state tuition for that? Your inputs will be greatly appreciated. TIA.

Ranked in the top 5. Depends on what the alternatives are. Then you do an economic and professional return on your investment. Anything within top 50 or even top 100 is not a deal breaker for the kid.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:02 pm

nenu wrote:Thank you very much everyone. I appreciate your inputs a lot. It does help with the decision making. Thanks again!

The school nearby is just as highly ranked....he no go there?

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:03 pm

oh...yeah...also Computer science, electrical engineering, computer engineering, network engineering, software engineering - there are several shades within EE.

So you want to be precise and exact in your analysis.

by FluteHolder Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:07 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
nenu wrote:Thank you very much everyone. I appreciate your inputs a lot. It does help with the decision making. Thanks again!

The school nearby is just as highly ranked....he no go there?

Just curious why most desi kids prefer the out of state colleges? I have seen quite a few desi kids seek out of state colleges though there are good schools available in their home state/city. Also have seen Tambram kids go to local colleges/schools and commute from home too (no college/hostel stay).

by truthbetold Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:28 pm

flute,
nj resident went to Columbia. any problem?
most kids work with their parents and school counselors to pick schools. the out of state tuition also ensures it is not just for fun. amounts involved are staggering .
i know of tambrams who went to faraway colleges for good and bad reasons.

by Petrichor Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:53 pm

FluteHolder wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
nenu wrote:Thank you very much everyone. I appreciate your inputs a lot. It does help with the decision making. Thanks again!

The school nearby is just as highly ranked....he no go there?

Just curious why most desi kids prefer the out of state colleges? I have seen quite a few desi kids seek out of state colleges though there are good schools available in their home state/city. Also have seen Tambram kids go to local colleges/schools and commute from home too (no college/hostel stay).

Poorly formed question.

School selection is based on available choices, so no great insight can be drawn from this - your anecdotal evidence notwithstanding.
Anecdotally speaking, everything else being the same, going in-state is preferable for the wallet. You can form ill-informed hypotheses based on following categories:

1. Girls vs Boys, in terms of emotional attachment in families
2. Family Income levels
3. College Rankings among available choices
4. Desi Parenting vs. Chinese Parenting vs. White Bread parenting
5. Draw of party schools, potential drinking mates, exotic locations etc.

and then,
6. Tambrahm parenting methods and diligence in academics leading to greater choice both in-state and out-of-state
7. Desi parents' policies on 'don't ask don't tell'
8. General affordability by desi families to go anywhere they want
....

Go to town with it...

by Petrichor Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:30 pm

Something more interesting to discuss would be

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/opinion/brooks-the-empirical-kids.html?src=rechp

by Rishi Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:42 pm

There is a Tamil guy from Sri Lanka who works with me. Both his daughter and son went to Thomas Jefferson high school in Virginia. That high school is ranked #1 in the country.

The girl got into MIT but the son could not. The son had no choice than to accept the offer from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

The man is lamenting that MIT did not admit his son even though he had stellar grades and very high SAT scores. But this prestigious institution admitted his son's classmate with lower grades and test scores because the applicant was black.

I told him U of I is a good institution. But the man says being at MIT opens more opportunities to participate in important projects.

I should show the malcontent the pictures of slain Tamils in Jaffna, his birthplace. That will make him stop complaining.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:50 pm

Muezzin-Bar'chu wrote:
FluteHolder wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
nenu wrote:Thank you very much everyone. I appreciate your inputs a lot. It does help with the decision making. Thanks again!

The school nearby is just as highly ranked....he no go there?

Just curious why most desi kids prefer the out of state colleges? I have seen quite a few desi kids seek out of state colleges though there are good schools available in their home state/city. Also have seen Tambram kids go to local colleges/schools and commute from home too (no college/hostel stay).

Poorly formed question.

School selection is based on available choices, so no great insight can be drawn from this - your anecdotal evidence notwithstanding.
Anecdotally speaking, everything else being the same, going in-state is preferable for the wallet. You can form ill-informed hypotheses based on following categories:

1. Girls vs Boys, in terms of emotional attachment in families
2. Family Income levels
3. College Rankings among available choices
4. Desi Parenting vs. Chinese Parenting vs. White Bread parenting
5. Draw of party schools, potential drinking mates, exotic locations etc.

and then,
6. Tambrahm parenting methods and diligence in academics leading to greater choice both in-state and out-of-state
7. Desi parents' policies on 'don't ask don't tell'
8. General affordability by desi families to go anywhere they want
....

Go to town with it...

All of the above are just hot air.

Kids in America want to move AWAY from their parents, as far away as possible - so do the ABCDs. Only the few Tambrahmi-parents controlled kid end up locally (or if they could not get anywhere).

Once decided to get out of the hellhole (called home), their choices narrow down to what their peers do. If their peers go to IVY, the the kid also likely to go. If they go to local state schools, your kid may go there as well. they rarely want to be alone at a school where they have no friends - peers or seniors.

P.S. Exceptions apply.

by truthbetold Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:44 pm

uppili ,
that general statement of getting far away from patents applies.to.most regular students. the big factor in those cases is affordability.
but the kids in discussion are the ones who can get into ivy leagues or top state schools. for them choices are limited by subject and college acceptance. i have seen parents, kids, and counsellors working together to get the best school/subject.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:57 pm

truthbetold wrote:uppili ,
that general statement of getting far away from patents applies.to.most regular students. the big factor in those cases is affordability.
but the kids in discussion are the ones who can get into ivy leagues or top state schools. for them choices are limited by subject and college acceptance. i have seen parents, kids, and counsellors working together to get the best school/subject.

Most regular students.... Yes. Thank you.

Most Desis would not send their kids to local (stop) state schools if they got admission to IVY Leagues. Such kids are likely to come from upper middle class desi families and they WILL be sent.

Regarding subjects, most schools allow them to SHIFT majors. If their GPA is good in Freshman and Sophomore, the kids can claim a change of interest and readily and easily shift - yes, even in IVY leagues. So that is not even an issue and most school counselors dont sweat over it. For them it is all about how many of their kids got into IVY leagues and TOP state schools (Berkeley, GT, UT, Urbana, UMich, UWisc, etc..)

by truthbetold Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:20 pm

uppili
once again these kids are focused on their subjects and schools. i am reporting what i have seen in my extended family and friends. our experiences seem to differ.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:22 pm

truthbetold wrote:uppili
once again these kids are focused on their subjects and schools. i am reporting what i have seen in my extended family and friends. our experiences seem to differ.

ok....I am just blowing hot air.....you win.

by Kris Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:42 pm

nenu wrote:For undergrad in Computer Engineering. Good school or not? Is it worth spending out-of-state tuition for that? Your inputs will be greatly appreciated. TIA.

>>>Very good school. My wife's cousin got his Comp Eng degree from there and joined Intel right afterwards. This was more than 15 years ago. The guy is a brain and got into other schools too (think he was waitlisted at Stanford, don't know if he got in later and didn't go).

by Uppili Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:23 pm

Kris wrote:
nenu wrote:For undergrad in Computer Engineering. Good school or not? Is it worth spending out-of-state tuition for that? Your inputs will be greatly appreciated. TIA.

>>>Very good school. My wife's cousin got his Comp Eng degree from there and joined Intel right afterwards. This was more than 15 years ago. The guy is a brain and got into other schools too (think he was waitlisted at Stanford, don't know if he got in later and didn't go).

Top 10 UNDERGRADUATE ranking in Computer Engineering

by Guest Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:40 pm

Uppili wrote:
Kris wrote:
nenu wrote:For undergrad in Computer Engineering. Good school or not? Is it worth spending out-of-state tuition for that? Your inputs will be greatly appreciated. TIA.

>>>Very good school. My wife's cousin got his Comp Eng degree from there and joined Intel right afterwards. This was more than 15 years ago. The guy is a brain and got into other schools too (think he was waitlisted at Stanford, don't know if he got in later and didn't go).

Top 10 UNDERGRADUATE ranking in Computer Engineering

Upps, can you pls come to chat if you are free?

by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:32 am

congrats nenu (kinnera)!

by Uppili Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:40 am

nenu wrote:
Uppili wrote:
Kris wrote:
nenu wrote:For undergrad in Computer Engineering. Good school or not? Is it worth spending out-of-state tuition for that? Your inputs will be greatly appreciated. TIA.

>>>Very good school. My wife's cousin got his Comp Eng degree from there and joined Intel right afterwards. This was more than 15 years ago. The guy is a brain and got into other schools too (think he was waitlisted at Stanford, don't know if he got in later and didn't go).

Top 10 UNDERGRADUATE ranking in Computer Engineering

Upps, can you pls come to chat if you are free?

,

I was there after 10.30 EDT, but didn't find you.

by Guest Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:51 am

Uppili wrote:

I was there after 10.30 EDT, but didn't find you.

I'm here now, upps.

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