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by truthbetold Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:09 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/us/boston-marathon-bombings.html?hp
read the story. At surface level these brothers stories seem simple. Muslims. Radicalized. Terrorists.
look deeper. Tamarlane seems to have a history. Boxer. Case of domestic violence. Turning to islam.
younger one is different but elder seems to have a strong influence.
While some history is there, fbi does not have an algorithm to pre identify them as possible trouble makers.
read the story. At surface level these brothers stories seem simple. Muslims. Radicalized. Terrorists.
look deeper. Tamarlane seems to have a history. Boxer. Case of domestic violence. Turning to islam.
younger one is different but elder seems to have a strong influence.
While some history is there, fbi does not have an algorithm to pre identify them as possible trouble makers.
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:47 am
What!! You want to place boxers, wife beaters and anti-abortionists into possible trouble makers category
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by truthbetold Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:03 pm
Cd,
How come you excluded turning to islam?
Have you already concluded that turninng to islam is a sure sign of a trouble maker?
How come you excluded turning to islam?
Have you already concluded that turninng to islam is a sure sign of a trouble maker?
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by Propagandhi711 Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:07 pm
Jagan and Muslims are off topic..shhhh
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:09 pm
truthbetold wrote:Cd,
How come you excluded turning to islam?
Have you already concluded that turninng to islam is a sure sign of a trouble maker?
No I did not imply that, in fact I meant the other way around. What do you think is the basic platform of anti-abortinists, Isn't it religion?
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by truthbetold Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:22 pm
Anti - abortion = Religion? ( you probably meant wingnuts)
Is that your universal characterization?
Is that your universal characterization?
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:02 pm
truthbetold wrote:Anti - abortion = Religion? ( you probably meant wingnuts)
Is that your universal characterization?
Sorry man, you're not getting my sarcasm. Muslim sounding names have been a big part of their algorithm let alone turning to Islam. Anyway, did that turning to Islam notion came from the official sources or just hearsay? People tend to exaggerate things they knew to get 15 seconds TV face time, I've seen this behavior first hand during LA riots so I'm always cynical about the accounts from these acquaintances.
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by truthbetold Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:19 pm
Cd,
Some of the medka is so conceited that they forgot to add the necessar pc sentences just because the guy's own father said so. I will learn to add that to my list of exceptions so that i may not offend the other posters
Some of the medka is so conceited that they forgot to add the necessar pc sentences just because the guy's own father said so. I will learn to add that to my list of exceptions so that i may not offend the other posters
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:49 pm
When to call it ‘terrorism’
"President Obama came under some criticism this past week when he initially refrained from using the word “terrorism” to describe the Boston Marathon bombing. He referred to it as a “senseless loss” and vowed that “we will find out who did this, and we will hold them accountable.”
But no “terrorism,” even as graphic images of maimed victims filled the airwaves and the Internet."
"President Obama came under some criticism this past week when he initially refrained from using the word “terrorism” to describe the Boston Marathon bombing. He referred to it as a “senseless loss” and vowed that “we will find out who did this, and we will hold them accountable.”
But no “terrorism,” even as graphic images of maimed victims filled the airwaves and the Internet."
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by MaxEntropy_Man Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:57 pm
how about what adam lanza did? was it terrorism? how about the arora shootings? terrorism? what about milwaukee?
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by Idéfix Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:10 pm
Killing with guns is not terrorism. The constitution says so. Killing with bombs is terrorism.
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:16 pm
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:how about what adam lanza did? was it terrorism? how about the arora shootings? terrorism? what about milwaukee?
Exactly, what about Columbine, one can't really say until it is determined whether they acted on their own or were there any terrorist outfits supporting them. This is getting different rappo from politicos bcz perpetrators are Muslims and not American born
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by truthbetold Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:31 pm
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005
I hate to break up a bi coastal liberal exchange gone wild.
While a single definition of terrorism is still elusive, there were broad classes of.action that were clearly identified as terrorism by law and by past action.
Us does not make distinction in terrorism by the tools used in terror , guns vs others
The thrust of law says systamatic use of terror to coerce a govt or civilian group ....
for a political objective.
Adam lanza's motives were unknown and the probability was that he was mentally unstable.
in boston marathon case, so far the actions of perpetrators or evidence show issues of mental fragility.
the chechen and muslim attributes add weight to the theory of terror to coerce ...... for political objectives.
Obama's non use of terror word is simply political tp minimize expected criticism from opposition.
it will back fire like the case of bengazi. So far this is an act of two brothers. No need to badmouth chechens but no need to backoff to not ruffle the feathers of bicoastal liberals.
I hate to break up a bi coastal liberal exchange gone wild.
While a single definition of terrorism is still elusive, there were broad classes of.action that were clearly identified as terrorism by law and by past action.
Us does not make distinction in terrorism by the tools used in terror , guns vs others
The thrust of law says systamatic use of terror to coerce a govt or civilian group ....
for a political objective.
Adam lanza's motives were unknown and the probability was that he was mentally unstable.
in boston marathon case, so far the actions of perpetrators or evidence show issues of mental fragility.
the chechen and muslim attributes add weight to the theory of terror to coerce ...... for political objectives.
Obama's non use of terror word is simply political tp minimize expected criticism from opposition.
it will back fire like the case of bengazi. So far this is an act of two brothers. No need to badmouth chechens but no need to backoff to not ruffle the feathers of bicoastal liberals.
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by confuzzled dude Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:53 pm
truthbetold wrote:
in boston marathon case, so far the actions of perpetrators or evidence show issues of mental fragility.
the chechen and muslim attributes add weight to the theory of terror to coerce ...... for political objectives.
That's pure speculation at this point.
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Re: fbi checked.on tamarlane
by truthbetold Sat Apr 20, 2013 5:01 pm
note: i added a missing "no".confuzzled dude wrote:truthbetold wrote:
in boston marathon case, so far the actions of perpetrators or evidence show NO issues of mental fragility.
the chechen and muslim attributes add weight to the theory of terror to coerce ...... for political objectives.
That's pure speculation at this point.
cd,
them being muslim or chechen?
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