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by Rishi Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:43 pm

How come you have not said anything about Jia Khan's suicide?

Have you analyzed why she did it?

Do you think she was depressed because her lover dumped her?

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1845183/report-family-finds-jiah-khan-s-six-page-note-describing-traumatic-ties-with-lover

Your silence on this crucial matter is very disappointing.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:36 pm

Rishi wrote:How come you have not said anything about Jia Khan's suicide?

Have you analyzed why she did it?

Do you think she was depressed because her lover dumped her?

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1845183/report-family-finds-jiah-khan-s-six-page-note-describing-traumatic-ties-with-lover

Your silence on this crucial matter is very disappointing.

by Kris Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:51 pm

Rishi wrote:How come you have not said anything about Jia Khan's suicide?

Have you analyzed why she did it?

Do you think she was depressed because her lover dumped her?

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1845183/report-family-finds-jiah-khan-s-six-page-note-describing-traumatic-ties-with-lover

Your silence on this crucial matter is very disappointing.

>>>The girl grew up in England. The 'note' doesn't seem like it was written by someone who spoke English as her first language. Anyway, I feel bad for the girl. May have been a combination of things, possibly including a relationship that went awry.

by Merlot Daruwala Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:57 pm

Kris wrote:
Rishi wrote:How come you have not said anything about Jia Khan's suicide?

Have you analyzed why she did it?

Do you think she was depressed because her lover dumped her?

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1845183/report-family-finds-jiah-khan-s-six-page-note-describing-traumatic-ties-with-lover

Your silence on this crucial matter is very disappointing.

>>>The girl grew up in England. The 'note' doesn't seem like it was written by someone who spoke English as her first language. Anyway, I feel bad for the girl. May have been a combination of things, possibly including a relationship that went awry.

Yeah, sounds odd. Who writes "You didn't care about the relation"??

by churi. Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:29 am

Kris wrote:
Rishi wrote:How come you have not said anything about Jia Khan's suicide?

Have you analyzed why she did it?

Do you think she was depressed because her lover dumped her?

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1845183/report-family-finds-jiah-khan-s-six-page-note-describing-traumatic-ties-with-lover

Your silence on this crucial matter is very disappointing.

>>>The girl grew up in England. The 'note' doesn't seem like it was written by someone who spoke English as her first language. Anyway, I feel bad for the girl. May have been a combination of things, possibly including a relationship that went awry.

Kris, did you see the transcript of the "actual" handwritten note: http://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainmenttags/jiah-khan/jiah-khans-mother-reveals-letter-behind-her-daughters-death.

It seems pretty legit to me, in the sense that it could well have been written by someone who grew up in England. It doesn't contain any Indian-isms like the faulty use of "relation".

by Kris Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:36 am

[quote="churi."]

Kris wrote:
Rishi wrote:How come you have not said anything about Jia Khan's suicide?

Have you analyzed why she did it?

Do you think she was depressed because her lover dumped her?

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1845183/report-family-finds-jiah-khan-s-six-page-note-describing-traumatic-ties-with-lover

Your silence on this crucial matter is very disappointing.

>>>The girl grew up in England. The 'note' doesn't seem like it was written by someone who spoke English as her first language. Anyway, I feel bad for the girl. May have been a combination of things, possibly including a relationship that went awry.[/quote

Kris, did you see the transcript of the "actual" handwritten note: http://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainmenttags/jiah-khan/jiah-khans-mother-reveals-letter-behind-her-daughters-death.

It seems pretty legit to me, in the sense that it could well have been written by someone who grew up in England. It doesn't contain any Indian-isms like the faulty use of "relation".

Churi,

Late night, eh? Reminds me of the old Sulekha days. It says the link is broken when I tried to open the link you posted. I was going on the basis of what the article said.

by churi. Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:40 am

[quote="Kris"]

churi. wrote:
Kris wrote:
Rishi wrote:How come you have not said anything about Jia Khan's suicide?

Have you analyzed why she did it?

Do you think she was depressed because her lover dumped her?

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1845183/report-family-finds-jiah-khan-s-six-page-note-describing-traumatic-ties-with-lover

Your silence on this crucial matter is very disappointing.

>>>The girl grew up in England. The 'note' doesn't seem like it was written by someone who spoke English as her first language. Anyway, I feel bad for the girl. May have been a combination of things, possibly including a relationship that went awry.[/quote

Kris, did you see the transcript of the "actual" handwritten note: http://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainmenttags/jiah-khan/jiah-khans-mother-reveals-letter-behind-her-daughters-death.

It seems pretty legit to me, in the sense that it could well have been written by someone who grew up in England. It doesn't contain any Indian-isms like the faulty use of "relation".

Churi,

Late night, eh? Reminds me of the old Sulekha days. It says the link is broken when I tried to open the link you posted. I was going on the basis of what the article said.

Sorry for the broken link, Kris - I hope this one works: http://www.missmalini.com/2013/06/09/jiah-khans-mother-releases-her-last-note.

Every night is a late night, for me Smile

by Merlot Daruwala Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:10 am

churi. wrote:Kris, did you see the transcript of the "actual" handwritten note: http://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainmenttags/jiah-khan/jiah-khans-mother-reveals-letter-behind-her-daughters-death.

It seems pretty legit to me, in the sense that it could well have been written by someone who grew up in England. It doesn't contain any Indian-isms like the faulty use of "relation".

Yeah, this looks quite real. Can't help feeling sorry - going through a tough life and then the heartbreak from investing too much in a relationship with someone who was not ready for commitment at 22.

by Kris Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:14 am

[quote="churi."]

Kris wrote:
churi. wrote:
Kris wrote:
Rishi wrote:How come you have not said anything about Jia Khan's suicide?

Have you analyzed why she did it?

Do you think she was depressed because her lover dumped her?

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/1845183/report-family-finds-jiah-khan-s-six-page-note-describing-traumatic-ties-with-lover

Your silence on this crucial matter is very disappointing.

>>>The girl grew up in England. The 'note' doesn't seem like it was written by someone who spoke English as her first language. Anyway, I feel bad for the girl. May have been a combination of things, possibly including a relationship that went awry.[/quote

Kris, did you see the transcript of the "actual" handwritten note: http://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainmenttags/jiah-khan/jiah-khans-mother-reveals-letter-behind-her-daughters-death.

It seems pretty legit to me, in the sense that it could well have been written by someone who grew up in England. It doesn't contain any Indian-isms like the faulty use of "relation".

Churi,

Late night, eh? Reminds me of the old Sulekha days. It says the link is broken when I tried to open the link you posted. I was going on the basis of what the article said.

Sorry for the broken link, Kris - I hope this one works: http://www.missmalini.com/2013/06/09/jiah-khans-mother-releases-her-last-note.

Every night is a late night, for me

>>>>You are right. This looks more authentic. Very tragic. It is a bit surprising that a 25 year old girl who grew up in the West didn't have the emotional tools to deal with this heart-break. The guy seems to have been a sleaze ball. It is possible she grew up in a sheltered environment in England within the confines of a Bollywood-watching sub-culture. I wish she had reached out for help and maybe even gone back to England instead of self-destructing and ultimately committing suicide.

by bw Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:20 am

scary - putting up with a guy who was apparently cheating on her and then killing herself. wonder why she just didn't walk away from him!

by Merlot Daruwala Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:53 am

Per the Times of India, her mother released this letter to the media. Very cheap I think to violate something so personal and precious as that last love letter. Jiah Khan was probably as much a victim of her mother as the heartbreak

by Propagandhi711 Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:09 am

the perils of bollywood decadence aka ingesting bollywood syrup in large quantities

by Hellsangel Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:24 pm

Merlot Daruwala wrote:Per the Times of India, her mother released this letter to the media. Very cheap I think to violate something so personal and precious as that last love letter. Jiah Khan was probably as much a victim of her mother as the heartbreak

On what grounds have they arrested Suraj Pancholi?

by Guest Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:29 pm

Hi Rishi. We did talk about it on chat. I never watched Nishabhd, and I don't recall her in Gajini. So, the news didn't affect me as much.

But reading the letter now. They were together for just one year, right? But looks like she had a long histroy of prior abuse (or were the abuses just by him)? It's not making sense how one attaches oneself to someone else so much so soon, and drive themselves to this point. She lived with her mom and sisters. Am sure they must have tried to get her through this. Maybe they focused on wrong issues.

I also wish people in India had more awareness about mental health care and therapy, and not just blame circumstances or others for people's drastic actions. Rather, try to prevent such drastic actions. If the Pancholi guy had engaged or married her, do you think her issues would have stopped? I highly doubt it.

Besides, cant' help bringign this up. Like father like son. Aditya Pancholi has had his own share of scandals, when he openly went out with Pooja Bedi, while still being married to 10-year-older Zarina Wahab. She dealt with those much strongly, of course.

Edit: someone I know recently committed suicide after 40 years of frustrating, disappointing, and abusive marriage. She would tell her cousins how she feels like killing herself, but looks like no one took her seriously. She never confided anything in my parents, wish she did.

by Merlot Daruwala Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:33 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Per the Times of India, her mother released this letter to the media. Very cheap I think to violate something so personal and precious as that last love letter. Jiah Khan was probably as much a victim of her mother as the heartbreak

On what grounds have they arrested Suraj Pancholi?

Abetment of suicide I suppose. The cops will now milk this for the free publicity (and extort some from the Pancholi family). The media will lap up the daily drama. Miscellaneous publicity-whores from Bollywood will weigh in with their two two cents. Another entirely pointless prosecution will add to the already choked up courts.

Yes saar, we da peeples of this glorious country called Bhaarat deserve our circus(es).

by Impedimenta Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:59 pm

ok. first,i had to google Jiah khan and then Suraj pancholi and then wanted to throw up.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:41 pm

Impedimenta wrote:ok. first,i had to google Jiah khan and then Suraj pancholi and then wanted to throw up.

Whatttt...not you TOO..

by Kris Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:40 am

Hellsangel wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:Per the Times of India, her mother released this letter to the media. Very cheap I think to violate something so personal and precious as that last love letter. Jiah Khan was probably as much a victim of her mother as the heartbreak

On what grounds have they arrested Suraj Pancholi?

>>>>I just read that. I am not sure what the basis would be to make this stick. Pancholi does appear to be scum, but why is this a morality play with the court injecting itself into it?

by churi. Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:16 am

[quote="Kris"]

churi. wrote:
Kris wrote:
churi. wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>The girl grew up in England. The 'note' doesn't seem like it was written by someone who spoke English as her first language. Anyway, I feel bad for the girl. May have been a combination of things, possibly including a relationship that went awry.[/quote

Kris, did you see the transcript of the "actual" handwritten note: http://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainmenttags/jiah-khan/jiah-khans-mother-reveals-letter-behind-her-daughters-death.

It seems pretty legit to me, in the sense that it could well have been written by someone who grew up in England. It doesn't contain any Indian-isms like the faulty use of "relation".

Churi,

Late night, eh? Reminds me of the old Sulekha days. It says the link is broken when I tried to open the link you posted. I was going on the basis of what the article said.

Sorry for the broken link, Kris - I hope this one works: http://www.missmalini.com/2013/06/09/jiah-khans-mother-releases-her-last-note.

Every night is a late night, for me

>>>>You are right. This looks more authentic. Very tragic. It is a bit surprising that a 25 year old girl who grew up in the West didn't have the emotional tools to deal with this heart-break. The guy seems to have been a sleaze ball. It is possible she grew up in a sheltered environment in England within the confines of a Bollywood-watching sub-culture. I wish she had reached out for help and maybe even gone back to England instead of self-destructing and ultimately committing suicide.

I was thinking about this comment. Does this mean that women in India are emotionally weak? Or does it mean that a girl who grew up in the West is by default better equipped to deal with heartbreak. A couple weeks ago I was stunned to hear about the suicide of a girl I went to school with. She was an accomplished woman - an anesthesiologist and state medical registrar, pretty, well-traveled, many friends - hooked herself up to an IV of propofol in her apartment because an ex had hooked up with one of her "friends". Here I was thinking girls are pretty much the same everywhere when it comes to love, guys...

by Captain Bhankas Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:26 am

why is it only in india (and perhaps p'stan and b'desh) that people commit suicide for one boy/girl? too much heer ranza nonsense? too much bollywood with its nonsensical message of "it happens only once" or "there is only one and one out there" or "do dil, do deewane, ek jaan"? i am yet to hear a peter, amanda, john or laura taking this step for nancy, mike, betty or arthur.

today's theme - attack indian film industry

by Kris Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:02 am

[quote="churi."]

Kris wrote:
churi. wrote:
Kris wrote:
churi. wrote:

Churi,

Late night, eh? Reminds me of the old Sulekha days. It says the link is broken when I tried to open the link you posted. I was going on the basis of what the article said.

Sorry for the broken link, Kris - I hope this one works: http://www.missmalini.com/2013/06/09/jiah-khans-mother-releases-her-last-note.

Every night is a late night, for me

>>>>You are right. This looks more authentic. Very tragic. It is a bit surprising that a 25 year old girl who grew up in the West didn't have the emotional tools to deal with this heart-break. The guy seems to have been a sleaze ball. It is possible she grew up in a sheltered environment in England within the confines of a Bollywood-watching sub-culture. I wish she had reached out for help and maybe even gone back to England instead of self-destructing and ultimately committing suicide.

I was thinking about this comment. Does this mean that women in India are emotionally weak? Or does it mean that a girl who grew up in the West is by default better equipped to deal with heartbreak. A couple weeks ago I was stunned to hear about the suicide of a girl I went to school with. She was an accomplished woman - an anesthesiologist and state medical registrar, pretty, well-traveled, many friends - hooked herself up to an IV of propofol in her apartment because an ex had hooked up with one of her "friends". Here I was thinking girls are pretty much the same everywhere when it comes to love, guys...

>>>Churi,

Not so much they are weak, but they are more influenced by the 'one man, one woman' cultural construct (See Captain's B's post in this thread). This could be changing now, but traditionally this has been the case. If someone grows up in the west, they are more used to dating different people and break-ups are more common and people move on with their lives. That is why the Jiah Khan case surprises me. As I said in one of my posts yesterday, it is possible she lived in England but had a heavy dosage of Bollywood and was an Indian at heart, with all the pluses and minuses that go with that.

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