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It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:50 pm
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Seva Lamberdar Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:15 pm
It's just a matter of time before the epigenetic effects on human genome due to the environment (climate and lifestyle etc.) are recognized and accepted, leading to discarding / doubting most of the present results / conclusions which consider only the sexual activity as the cause for transmission of genes and genetic markers.
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Propagandhi711 Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:21 pm
that's right...tie this to AIT, mohenjadaro & harappa, rgvedas, advaita, reservations, UCC etc and we got outselves a discussion for rest of the weekend. throw up a blog link, do somethingSeva Lamberdar wrote:It's just a matter of time before the epigenetic effects on human genome due to the environment (climate and lifestyle etc.) are recognized and accepted, leading to discarding / doubting most of the present results / conclusions which consider only the sexual activity as the cause for transmission of genes and genetic markers.
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Seva Lamberdar Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:25 pm
Not to disappoint you Propaji, here it is ...Propagandhi711 wrote:that's right...tie this to AIT, mohenjadaro & harappa, rgvedas, advaita, reservations, UCC etc and we got outselves a discussion for rest of the weekend. throw up a blog link, do somethingSeva Lamberdar wrote:It's just a matter of time before the epigenetic effects on human genome due to the environment (climate and lifestyle etc.) are recognized and accepted, leading to discarding / doubting most of the present results / conclusions which consider only the sexual activity as the cause for transmission of genes and genetic markers.
https://such.forumotion.com/t15112-a-comment-about-ait-related-to-the-epigenetics-and-linguistics
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Propagandhi711 Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:27 pm
sweet. I will be back on saturday to discussSeva Lamberdar wrote:Not to disappoint you Propaji, here it is ...Propagandhi711 wrote:that's right...tie this to AIT, mohenjadaro & harappa, rgvedas, advaita, reservations, UCC etc and we got outselves a discussion for rest of the weekend. throw up a blog link, do somethingSeva Lamberdar wrote:It's just a matter of time before the epigenetic effects on human genome due to the environment (climate and lifestyle etc.) are recognized and accepted, leading to discarding / doubting most of the present results / conclusions which consider only the sexual activity as the cause for transmission of genes and genetic markers.
https://such.forumotion.com/t15112-a-comment-about-ait-related-to-the-epigenetics-and-linguistics
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Idéfix Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:34 pm
Have you discovered some non-sexual activities that cause the transmission of genes and genetic markers?Seva Lamberdar wrote:... leading to discarding / doubting most of the present results / conclusions which consider only the sexual activity as the cause for transmission of genes and genetic markers.
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Seva Lamberdar Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:41 pm
Epigenetics talks about the appearance of genetic markers without any sexual activity and which are mostly the result of environment.Idéfix wrote:Have you discovered some non-sexual activities that cause the transmission of genes and genetic markers?Seva Lamberdar wrote:... leading to discarding / doubting most of the present results / conclusions which consider only the sexual activity as the cause for transmission of genes and genetic markers.
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Idéfix Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:46 pm
Sevaji, appearance does not equal transmission. You were talking about transmission of genes without sexual activity; have you found some new revolutionary techniques you haven't told us about yet?Seva Lamberdar wrote:Epigenetics talks about the appearance of genetic markers without any sexual activity and which are mostly the result of environment.Idéfix wrote:Have you discovered some non-sexual activities that cause the transmission of genes and genetic markers?Seva Lamberdar wrote:... leading to discarding / doubting most of the present results / conclusions which consider only the sexual activity as the cause for transmission of genes and genetic markers.
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by smArtha Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:49 pm
A significant claim this research study throws up is that the 'caste based discrimination' is only about 2000-4000 years old.
"By measuring the length of the chromosome segments of ANI and ASI ancestry in Indian genomes, the scientists were thus able to obtain precise estimate of the age of population mixture, which they infer varied about 1900 to 4200 years, depending on the population analyzed.
They observed that only a few thousand years ago, the Indian population structure was vastly different from today. The caste system has been around for a long time, but not forever. Prior to about 4000 years aho there was no mixture. After that, widespread mixture affected almost every group in India, even the most isolated tribal groups. And finally, endogamy set in and froze everything in place. They further maintained that the fact that every population in India evolved from randomly mixed populations suggests that social classifications like the caste system are not likely to have existed in the same way before the mixture. Thus, the present-day structure of the caste system came into being only relatively recently in Indian history."
"By measuring the length of the chromosome segments of ANI and ASI ancestry in Indian genomes, the scientists were thus able to obtain precise estimate of the age of population mixture, which they infer varied about 1900 to 4200 years, depending on the population analyzed.
They observed that only a few thousand years ago, the Indian population structure was vastly different from today. The caste system has been around for a long time, but not forever. Prior to about 4000 years aho there was no mixture. After that, widespread mixture affected almost every group in India, even the most isolated tribal groups. And finally, endogamy set in and froze everything in place. They further maintained that the fact that every population in India evolved from randomly mixed populations suggests that social classifications like the caste system are not likely to have existed in the same way before the mixture. Thus, the present-day structure of the caste system came into being only relatively recently in Indian history."
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Seva Lamberdar Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:54 pm
Once certain genetic markers arise epigenetically they can be transmitted sexually, but their basic origin remains non-sexual.Idéfix wrote:Sevaji, appearance does not equal transmission. You were talking about transmission of genes without sexual activity; have you found some new revolutionary techniques you haven't told us about yet?Seva Lamberdar wrote:Epigenetics talks about the appearance of genetic markers without any sexual activity and which are mostly the result of environment.Idéfix wrote:Have you discovered some non-sexual activities that cause the transmission of genes and genetic markers?Seva Lamberdar wrote:... leading to discarding / doubting most of the present results / conclusions which consider only the sexual activity as the cause for transmission of genes and genetic markers.
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Re: It not NI/SI rather ASI ANI
by Idéfix Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:55 pm
Yeah, only is the key word there.smArtha wrote:A significant claim this research study throws up is that the 'caste based discrimination' is only about 2000-4000 years old.
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