Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be Jagan should meet Kanimozhi and Raja and compare notes.

Now that he is out, he will start barking on how sikularism is the only future for Andhra. So, is another "odarpu yatra" on the cards? Hopefully, gullible people won't vote for this crook.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/jagan-mohan-reddy-freed-on-bail-after-16-months-in-jail-422555?pfrom=home-lateststories

Propagandhi711 wrote:certain wapo warrior will be distributing sweets today as this freedom fighter, the son of a great statesman, has been freed from incarceration where he was held unconstitutionally.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:certain wapo warrior will be distributing sweets today as this freedom fighter, the son of a great statesman, has been freed from incarceration where he was held unconstitutionally.

Yes I did distribute goodies worth a grand and planning to pay a visit to Afghan Kabob place to celebrate the holy war took place in Nairobi  over the weekend.

confuzzled dude wrote:https://www.google.com/#q=kabob+palace

Hellsangel wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:https://www.google.com/#q=kabob+palace

Favorite of yours?

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:May be Jagan should meet Kanimozhi and Raja and compare notes.

Now that he is out, he will start barking on how sikularism is the only future for Andhra. So, is another "odarpu yatra" on the cards? Hopefully, gullible people won't vote for this crook.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/jagan-mohan-reddy-freed-on-bail-after-16-months-in-jail-422555?pfrom=home-lateststories

I had an interesting discussion over the weekend with a bunch of friends. How effective an uncorrupted & honest leader can be in India under current circumstances. If you take MMS's example he probably is honest and not corrupt personally, yet he couldn't stop all the corruption went on around him. Can he be called an effective leader for not being corrupt? Conclusion was that only naive folks think that a honest leader can fix corruption problem overnight in Bollywood movie style. An effective lader is one who gets things done despite being corrupt i.e. who takes his 10-15% cut but still is on top of the projects. Even JP, if becomes CM of A.P. (since many on this board seem to think he is next coming of Gandhi), I'm sure will have to let a few things slide to be able to survive in the office.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Jagan won't be all that prominent in 2014. Contrary to all the negative propaganda, CBN is still a game changer. If he allies with BJP, that will give the latter some credibility in SI. I won't be surprised if both BJP and TDP change their stance on Telangana when the SA agitation gains more strength. All they need to do is to blame CONmen that they are destroying AP for narrow, selfish political gain. SA is already suspicious that CONmen made a deal with Jagan and KCR for MPs in SA and T. If the suspicion is backed up by some evidence, SA will turn against him in 2014. In the recent panchayat elections, TDP has done well. We just have to wait and watch how the drama unfolds.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:Jagan won't be all that prominent in 2014. Contrary to all the negative propaganda, CBN is still a game changer. If he allies with BJP, that will give the latter some credibility in SI. I won't be surprised if both BJP and TDP change their stance on Telangana when the SA agitation gains more strength. All they need to do is to blame CONmen that they are destroying AP for narrow, selfish political gain. SA is already suspicious that CONmen made a deal with Jagan and KCR for MPs in SA and T. If the suspicion is backed up by some evidence, SA will turn against him in 2014. In the recent panchayat elections, TDP has done well. We just have to wait and watch how the drama unfolds.

and you think SAites are idiots to believe that BJP is a flag-bearer of united state.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:We just have to want and see. Your thinking about voters tolerating corruption is questionable. In 2014, the share of youngsters in votes is not insignificant. Jagan got out because he made a deal with CONmen. The details will come out. CBN is saying that CONmen had the CBI guy working on Jagan's file transferred a few days ago and now CBI is saying that there is no convincing evidence! There is definitely an Italian style match fixing that is going on.

Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:
You are underestimating SA voters. None expected NTR to dethrone CONmen! The arguments before that election were similar to what you are presenting here.

truthbetold wrote:Cd,
thanks for clarifying that jagan's unquenchable corrupt nature is a strength in disguise. through this super secret strength he will motivate his fellow corrupt employees to build roads that will collapse during construction and dams that will remain incomplete. he can create more employment through failed project repair works.

truthbetold wrote:Cd is on target on bjp. Tdp will go down in flames if it joins with bjp. I cannot say for sure after elections but I doubt if tdp will join bjp before elections.

Propagandhi711 wrote:

truthbetold wrote:Cd,
thanks for clarifying that jagan's unquenchable corrupt nature is a strength in disguise. through this super secret strength he will motivate his fellow corrupt employees to build roads that will collapse during construction and dams that will remain incomplete. he can create more employment through failed project repair works.

yes,. jagan is excising all his corrupt nature in his youth so he can come out purified without any faults and lead the country as another mohandas gandhi. CD saw all this in a seance he held with his like minded friends over the weekend.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Propagandhi711 wrote:

truthbetold wrote:Cd,
thanks for clarifying that jagan's unquenchable corrupt nature is a strength in disguise. through this super secret strength he will motivate his fellow corrupt employees to build roads that will collapse during construction and dams that will remain incomplete. he can create more employment through failed project repair works.

yes,. jagan is excising all his corrupt nature in his youth so he can come out purified without any faults and lead the country as another mohandas gandhi. CD saw all this in a seance he held with his like minded friends over the weekend.

While I'm honored to bear the brunt of your unbridled sarcasm let me tell you that my earlier post though was a part of this thread due to its relevance & comments from Sandilya, was not specifically about Jagan rather on corruption in general (among the leaders). Do you think that Modi's administration does not have any corrupt politicians and you think he is not aware of them? Would anyone think corruption allegations on YSR made him less of an administrator?

smArtha wrote:Moving PC from home to finance, Shinde to Home and elevation of Pranab to RP Bhavan were all part of the Cong strategy to move ahead with T-State and get closer to TRS and YSRCP. Having PC heading home helped CBN to get periodic clues about what the Home ministry is going to do about T-state. IMO, he was also able to influence the deferring of the decision. When Cong changed its course, seeing its defeat in the status quo, CBN was caught unaware and YSRCP got a head start with useful hints (via sources in Home ministry). This drama benefited all major stake holders in AP except TDP and BJP. And these stake holders are going to reward Cong to install a UPA-3 in 2014. The SA folks that support YRSCP in the place of TDP/BJP will thus be working against their own goal of defeating the Congress. CBN can preserve some of his lost identify by moving closer to BJP and have BJP make statements for United AP or at the least stalling and review of the bifurcation issue.

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Why is it that the PiSS group always behaves like the Pakistanis?  Anytime someone questions them they respond with India this and India that.

You ask anything about the PiSS group and they will promptly respond with BJP this and Modi that...does not matter what they are asked.

confuzzled dude wrote:

smArtha wrote:Moving PC from home to finance, Shinde to Home and elevation of Pranab to RP Bhavan were all part of the Cong strategy to move ahead with T-State and get closer to TRS and YSRCP. Having PC heading home helped CBN to get periodic clues about what the Home ministry is going to do about T-state. IMO, he was also able to influence the deferring of the decision. When Cong changed its course, seeing its defeat in the status quo, CBN was caught unaware and YSRCP got a head start with useful hints (via sources in Home ministry). This drama benefited all major stake holders in AP except TDP and BJP. And these stake holders are going to reward Cong to install a UPA-3 in 2014. The SA folks that support YRSCP in the place of TDP/BJP will thus be working against their own goal of defeating the Congress. CBN can preserve some of his lost identify by moving closer to BJP and have BJP make statements for United AP or at the least stalling and review of the bifurcation issue.

So all of them are buddies of CBN who have been keeping him abreast of inside information, it makes sense though, probably that friendship is what saved him from spending time in Jail. You are right about BJP, the only way to make inroads in SA is by stalling bifurcation process but why would they do that when they have a better chance of winning in 'T'

b_A wrote:
At this point , BJP gets no advantage in 'T' for supporting bifurcation.  The congress and TRS will get the credit for carving out the 'T' state.  If they take a U turn at the national level , they may get some votes in SA if they align with TDP.

confuzzled dude wrote:

smArtha wrote:Moving PC from home to finance, Shinde to Home and elevation of Pranab to RP Bhavan were all part of the Cong strategy to move ahead with T-State and get closer to TRS and YSRCP. Having PC heading home helped CBN to get periodic clues about what the Home ministry is going to do about T-state. IMO, he was also able to influence the deferring of the decision. When Cong changed its course, seeing its defeat in the status quo, CBN was caught unaware and YSRCP got a head start with useful hints (via sources in Home ministry). This drama benefited all major stake holders in AP except TDP and BJP. And these stake holders are going to reward Cong to install a UPA-3 in 2014. The SA folks that support YRSCP in the place of TDP/BJP will thus be working against their own goal of defeating the Congress. CBN can preserve some of his lost identify by moving closer to BJP and have BJP make statements for United AP or at the least stalling and review of the bifurcation issue.

So all of them are buddies of CBN who have been keeping him abreast of inside information, it makes sense though, probably that friendship is what saved him from spending time in Jail. You are right about BJP, the only way to make inroads in SA is by stalling bifurcation process but why would they do that when they have a better chance of winning in 'T'