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truthbetold
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Appalamma challenges KCR....
OrEy, dammulunte raaraa. Medak lo daakkoni Bobbili kallu taagaku. Meesam unna mogaadivaitE ikkadikocchi choopincharaa nee tadaakaa........
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
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>>> I think people of Andhra will be better off if they accept the reality and make peace with the Telengana crowd. You can always develop other parts of Andhra. In fact, it is a great opportunity to build new cities , modern and clean ones.
Rishi- Posts : 5129
Join date : 2011-09-02
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The fight, in reality, is for a fair division of revenue and resources (Hyderabad generates the bulk of the revenue for the state). If there is no demand, Sonia will dish out more to Telangana (because she thinks that if she doesn't, she won't get the 17 MPs she is after in Telangana). She already thinks that she won't win a single seat in Andhra/Seema areas. The rumor is that Jagan is released on bail so that he will make people of these two areas think that he is working for them, get elected and join CONwallahs. This way, she thinks that she will have the bulk of the 42 MPs to support her moronic son to be the next PM. She put the coastal area and Rayalaseema in a very disadvantageous position by taking a dramatic decision without addressing important issues that affect these two regions - employment, water sharing, education, medical facilities, IIT, centeral university, various govt. institutions, etc. Politicians of Telangana have given enough hints that they will ensure that the "settlers" won't be happy living in Hyd/Telangana region.Rishi wrote:>>> I think people of Andhra will be better off if they accept the reality and make peace with the Telengana crowd. You can always develop other parts of Andhra. In fact, it is a great opportunity to build new cities , modern and clean ones.
You are right - people of AP should think of developing their own regions. They will do that once the state is split in a fair fashion. The exodus from Hyderabad has already started. For example, 40% of the students in colleges in Hyderabad are not attending classes even though Hyderabad is peaceful. These students are from the coastal/Seema areas. Many of the colleges in Hyderabad will most likely go bankrupt once the state is divided.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
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The majority of the remaining 60% students in Hyderabad colleges are kids of parents living in Hyderabad city. Among them, non-Telangana people are a significant chunk. So, Hyderabad colleges depend heavily on non-Telangana people for their revenue and survival.Vakavaka Pakapaka wrote:The fight, in reality, is for a fair division of revenue and resources (Hyderabad generates the bulk of the revenue for the state). If there is no demand, Sonia will dish out more to Telangana (because she thinks that if she doesn't, she won't get the 17 MPs she is after in Telangana). She already thinks that she won't win a single seat in Andhra/Seema areas. The rumor is that Jagan is released on bail so that he will make people of these two areas think that he is working for them, get elected and join CONwallahs. This way, she thinks that she will have the bulk of the 42 MPs to support her moronic son to be the next PM. She put the coastal area and Rayalaseema in a very disadvantageous position by taking a dramatic decision without addressing important issues that affect these two regions - employment, water sharing, education, medical facilities, IIT, centeral university, various govt. institutions, etc. Politicians of Telangana have given enough hints that they will ensure that the "settlers" won't be happy living in Hyd/Telangana region.Rishi wrote:>>> I think people of Andhra will be better off if they accept the reality and make peace with the Telengana crowd. You can always develop other parts of Andhra. In fact, it is a great opportunity to build new cities , modern and clean ones.
You are right - people of AP should think of developing their own regions. They will do that once the state is split in a fair fashion. The exodus from Hyderabad has already started. For example, 40% of the students in colleges in Hyderabad are not attending classes even though Hyderabad is peaceful. These students are from the coastal/Seema areas. Many of the colleges in Hyderabad will most likely go bankrupt once the state is divided.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
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Sandilya ,
your analysis is right on target. division is inevitable. fight is about fair division of resources. sonia's actions put seemandhra people in really weak negotiating position. the agitation gave them some leverage. not much but improved from zero position.
your analysis is right on target. division is inevitable. fight is about fair division of resources. sonia's actions put seemandhra people in really weak negotiating position. the agitation gave them some leverage. not much but improved from zero position.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
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Andhra people should learn from their Annas down South and start talking about a Andhra Desam. As a separate country, they won't be in any worse situation than they will be with the state divided. JP was on NDTV cautioning about this possibility, not only in Andhra but also elsewhere in the country (since MT has imposed her selfish plan ignoring the federal nature of the Indian state).truthbetold wrote:Sandilya ,
your analysis is right on target. division is inevitable. fight is about fair division of resources. sonia's actions put seemandhra people in really weak negotiating position. the agitation gave them some leverage. not much but improved from zero position.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
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Guruvu-gaaru, sounds like you missed a great opportunity for video journalism with you being here and Appalamma being there.
Also, are you suggesting dESa-drOham just to get back at Telangana?
Also, are you suggesting dESa-drOham just to get back at Telangana?
Idéfix- Posts : 8808
Join date : 2012-04-26
Location : Berkeley, CA
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What is desa droham when imperial rulers do not listen to common man's voice. it is time people stand up and remind sonia about federal nature of the country.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
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Idefix ,
in seemandhra case, they will lose hyd revenue, they will lose water, and they have to build a capital all over again with their paisa. Center does not have the money to give even if it promises. Students could lose educational opportunities. seemandhra peopl's living standards may go down 30 to 40%.
the division could have been done systematically reducing the pain and allowing seemandhra to recover in 5 years.
in seemandhra case, they will lose hyd revenue, they will lose water, and they have to build a capital all over again with their paisa. Center does not have the money to give even if it promises. Students could lose educational opportunities. seemandhra peopl's living standards may go down 30 to 40%.
the division could have been done systematically reducing the pain and allowing seemandhra to recover in 5 years.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
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What is this business of building capitals?? A state capital is just the seat of the local government. High time we stopped pampering some city just because all the ministers and babus sit there. Urban development should be equitable across the state and not limited to where the netas and babus sit. This is a good opportunity for SA to tread a new path instead of sticking to this feudal mindset.truthbetold wrote:Idefix ,
in seemandhra case, they will lose hyd revenue, they will lose water, and they have to build a capital all over again with their paisa.
Nonsense. It's not as if Telangana's colleges can survive without students from SA.truthbetold wrote:Students could lose educational opportunities.
Haha..why??truthbetold wrote:seemandhra peopl's living standards may go down 30 to 40%.
Given how the division is being taken in such an emotional rather than rational way, the "pain" would have been the same no matter how long drawn the separation. If anything, the mindless violence and protests would have killed all economic activity over the 5-year period and turned SA into a wasteland. Now, hopefully, those sheep burning buses on the street will come to their senses soon enough.truthbetold wrote:the division could have been done systematically reducing the pain and allowing seemandhra to recover in 5 years.
I only wish the educated, thinking folks on this board would end their breastbeating over this non-issue.
Merlot Daruwala- Posts : 5005
Join date : 2011-04-29
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Yeah, Appalamma can learn a lot from the famous woman in my village video.Idéfix wrote:Guruvu-gaaru, sounds like you missed a great opportunity for video journalism with you being here and Appalamma being there.
Also, are you suggesting dESa-drOham just to get back at Telangana?
Desa droham? It is a tactic! A bit like Lagadapati's "fast" in response to KCR's "fast".
Since you are on the other side on this issue, you don't realize the pain that the average Andhra person is going through. Your other post suggesting that business people and politicians are behind this agitation in Andhra is off the mark. This is clearly a spontaneous movement by common man. Businessmen/politicians like Lagadapati and Kavuri are hiding because people want to beat them up if they come out. Chandrababu is in Delhi and not Vijayawada because right now people in Andhra don't support him (may even beat him up). Chiranjeevi hasn't been to coastal areas for a while now (his political career is finished, he might as well make as much money as he can for the next few months). The movement is actually an anti-politician agitation. May be MT and her brilliant son should visit Vijayawada. They will receive cheppula aavaaham and pidakala sEva.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
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Brilliant! MT is looking for a governor for the new state. You get to eat a lot of Hyderabadi byriani, drink Rangareddy wine and be like CONman ND Tiwari.Merlot Daruwala wrote:What is this business of building capitals?? A state capital is just the seat of the local government. High time we stopped pampering some city just because all the ministers and babus sit there. Urban development should be equitable across the state and not limited to where the netas and babus sit. This is a good opportunity for SA to tread a new path instead of sticking to this feudal mindset.truthbetold wrote:Idefix ,
in seemandhra case, they will lose hyd revenue, they will lose water, and they have to build a capital all over again with their paisa.Nonsense. It's not as if Telangana's colleges can survive without students from SA.truthbetold wrote:Students could lose educational opportunities.Haha..why??truthbetold wrote:seemandhra peopl's living standards may go down 30 to 40%.Given how the division is being taken in such an emotional rather than rational way, the "pain" would have been the same no matter how long drawn the separation. If anything, the mindless violence and protests would have killed all economic activity over the 5-year period and turned SA into a wasteland. Now, hopefully, those sheep burning buses on the street will come to their senses soon enough.truthbetold wrote:the division could have been done systematically reducing the pain and allowing seemandhra to recover in 5 years.
I only wish the educated, thinking folks on this board would end their breastbeating over this non-issue.
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
Join date : 2012-08-24
Re: Appalamma challenges KCR....
What is this business of building capitals?? A state capital is just the seat of the local government. High time we stopped pampering some city just because all the ministers and babus sit there. Urban development should be equitable across the state and not limited to where the netas and babus sit. This is a good opportunity for SA to tread a new path instead of sticking to this feudal mindset.
Nonsense. It's not as if Telangana's colleges can survive without students from SA.
Your arguments are valid in an ideal world; However, Current process of bifurcation will benefit Telangana & Telangana ONLY which is the main reason for all these protests and violence across SA.
I only wish the educated, thinking folks on this board would end their breastbeating over this non-issue.
You're right, Hyd businesses & colleges will survive, in fact will continue to thrive. I'm afraid, it will be the other way around i.e. Seemandhraites of next generation, most likely, will continue to migrate to Hyd as they have no other choice, which means 'T' state gets to enjoy all the moolah, and Seemandhra will slowly become an arid and poor state due to lack of water & other resources sharing policies (and I don't think rest of 'T' will fare any better either).
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
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Merlot,
You gave me a rare chance to agree with you. State should develop as many towns as possible for an equitable distribution of jobs and growth.
ap did not. cbn's argument was that to attract fdi you need a world class city and airport etc. it worked. he got the jobs but mainly to hyd. After 2004 thus became evident. ysr tried expanding growth but was a little too busy counting money.
Indian growth method of few central cities gathering growth is not good for equitable distribution of opportunities. but cities provide the new cash cow for politics, land deals. who is going to change that.
You gave me a rare chance to agree with you. State should develop as many towns as possible for an equitable distribution of jobs and growth.
ap did not. cbn's argument was that to attract fdi you need a world class city and airport etc. it worked. he got the jobs but mainly to hyd. After 2004 thus became evident. ysr tried expanding growth but was a little too busy counting money.
Indian growth method of few central cities gathering growth is not good for equitable distribution of opportunities. but cities provide the new cash cow for politics, land deals. who is going to change that.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
Join date : 2011-06-07
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ppl keep saying develop the whole state but they forget the pesky little problem of resource scarcity. throughout history certain places take precedence and get a lion share when it comes to allocation of resources & energies owing to geography etc. it wont change due to ppl suddenly waking up and shedding their "feudal mindset"
Propagandhi711- Posts : 6941
Join date : 2011-04-29
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Good post man; valid points.Propagandhi711 wrote:ppl keep saying develop the whole state but they forget the pesky little problem of resource scarcity. throughout history certain places take precedence and get a lion share when it comes to allocation of resources & energies owing to geography etc. it wont change due to ppl suddenly waking up and shedding their "feudal mindset"
confuzzled dude- Posts : 10205
Join date : 2011-05-08
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It is possible to some extent. Israel is an excellent example - they innovated their irrigation technology and are exporting vegetables to Europe and the US. Poultry farming is a another good example. Fish farming may not be. Risk taking and innovation, signs of a progressive community, are actually increasing. Moving to Hyderabad in the 60's and 70's was a bold decision at that time. Coastal farmers moved to K'taka, Seema and Telangana and cultivated lands......Propagandhi711 wrote:ppl keep saying develop the whole state but they forget the pesky little problem of resource scarcity. throughout history certain places take precedence and get a lion share when it comes to allocation of resources & energies owing to geography etc. it wont change due to ppl suddenly waking up and shedding their "feudal mindset"
Vakavaka Pakapaka- Posts : 7611
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