ashdoc wrote:http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/entry/our-pride-and-the-nri-prejudice

Kris wrote:

ashdoc wrote:http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/entry/our-pride-and-the-nri-prejudice

>> I just read the article and can't see how this is meant as a serious opinion. NRIs are envious? And the veiled idiotic threat about this not being forgotten soon? At best, this was a f**kup because of the strip search of a diplomat which certainly can rankle, but asking overseas Indians to turn a blind eye to the alleged transgressions in the name of loyalty to the homeland makes you wonder about Dasgupta's maturity.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:

ashdoc wrote:http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/right-and-wrong/entry/our-pride-and-the-nri-prejudice

>> I just read the article and can't see how this is meant as a serious opinion. NRIs are envious? And the veiled idiotic threat about this not being forgotten soon? At best, this was a f**kup because of the strip search of a diplomat which certainly can rankle, but asking overseas Indians to turn a blind eye to the alleged transgressions in the name of loyalty to the homeland makes you wonder about Dasgupta's maturity.

I thought he was criticizing holier than thou attitude of NRIs, especially those who act as if they never availed domestic help back in India nor during their visits back home. He probably went overboard with his criticism but he was right on the money for the most part.

truthbetold wrote:The nri reference seems to be directed at bharara and state Dept nri employee.

Cavity search had a lot to do with Indian reaction.

But now original facts are secondary as Indian govt is pushed into taking a policy stand of reciprocal respect.  Hopefully future dealings between the nations will minimize cowboy bharara type of gun slinging actions affecting relationships.

India also must really clean up that whole servant maid deal.

truthbetold wrote:The nri reference seems to be directed at bharara and state Dept nri employee.

Cavity search had a lot to do with Indian reaction.

But now original facts are secondary as Indian govt is pushed into taking a policy stand of reciprocal respect.  Hopefully future dealings between the nations will minimize cowboy bharara type of gun slinging actions affecting relationships.

India also must really clean up that whole servant maid deal.

Kris wrote:

truthbetold wrote:The nri reference seems to be directed at bharara and state Dept nri employee.

Cavity search had a lot to do with Indian reaction.

But now original facts are secondary as Indian govt is pushed into taking a policy stand of reciprocal respect.  Hopefully future dealings between the nations will minimize cowboy bharara type of gun slinging actions affecting relationships.

India also must really clean up that whole servant maid deal.

>> TBT, India won't do jack, at least in a substantive manner. At best, you will have a workaround with regard to the diplomatic corps in countries with strong labor laws. Guys like Dasgupta exemplify the ' see no evil' syndrome. He doesn't see anything wrong with what DK did and hence, his bizarre framing of the problem as one of just loyalty to one side or the other.

Kris wrote:Guys like Dasgupta exemplify the ' see no evil' syndrome. 

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:Guys like Dasgupta exemplify the ' see no evil' syndrome. 

dasgupta seems to come from the same snooty social background as mani shankar iyer, sorry aaiyaar, who once wrote that (and i am paraphrasing) the US is full of low class customer care people who are rude to their social superiors.

Kris wrote:
>>Could be, but if he is expecting this from people born (or raised) in the U.S, it makes you wonder how much he really knows about the west.

nevada wrote:DK will be fine. Indian govt got her back. Even if she goes to jail for a few months she has a great life ahead of her once she leaves prison. But the same cannot be said for the maid. If she returns to India her life will be hell. I hope whatever deal the US cuts with India doesn't involve throwing the maid under the bus.

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>Could be, but if he is expecting this from people born (or raised) in the U.S, it makes you wonder how much he really knows about the west.

I don't think he is. If I'm reading this correctly he suggests otherwise

"For the past decade at least, the New World and even some European countries have proceeded on the assumption that ethnic Indians are better able to understand India and relate to Indians than the average white or black. The assumption has often been questioned by Indians."

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>Could be, but if he is expecting this from people born (or raised) in the U.S, it makes you wonder how much he really knows about the west.

I don't think he is. If I'm reading this correctly he suggests otherwise

"For the past decade at least, the New World and even some European countries have proceeded on the assumption that ethnic Indians are better able to understand India and relate to Indians than the average white or black. The assumption has often been questioned by Indians."

Rishi wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>Could be, but if he is expecting this from people born (or raised) in the U.S, it makes you wonder how much he really knows about the west.

I don't think he is. If I'm reading this correctly he suggests otherwise

"For the past decade at least, the New World and even some European countries have proceeded on the assumption that ethnic Indians are better able to understand India and relate to Indians than the average white or black. The assumption has often been questioned by Indians."

Cd is correct

In fact, I would even say that average working class guy in TN  who observes the whites coming to India  understands them better than the upper class kids who study in English medium and go to elite colleges. Simply because the working class guy directly observes what is going on. His vision is not clouded by reading books like Ayn Rand and crap like that and imagining whites to be some kind of super woman or men.

confuzzled dude wrote:

nevada wrote:DK will be fine. Indian govt got her back. Even if she goes to jail for a few months she has a great life ahead of her once she leaves prison. But the same cannot be said for the maid. If she returns to India her life will be hell. I hope whatever deal the US cuts with India doesn't involve throwing the maid under the bus.

This sounds like typical street justice scenario, it is always the fault of the guy driving the car, never the one riding bicycle,he could have rode himself under the car but it doesn't matter, in addition, all the physical beating is justified because the guy in the car is involved in a couple of scams.

Kris wrote:

confuzzled dude wrote:

Kris wrote:
>>Could be, but if he is expecting this from people born (or raised) in the U.S, it makes you wonder how much he really knows about the west.

I don't think he is. If I'm reading this correctly he suggests otherwise

"For the past decade at least, the New World and even some European countries have proceeded on the assumption that ethnic Indians are better able to understand India and relate to Indians than the average white or black. The assumption has often been questioned by Indians."

>>> There may be certain quarters in the west (business circles) where this may be true, but that is not my point i.e. allegiance to India on the part of these overseas born Indians, simply on the basis of ethnicity. At best, it is an ethnic label. I don't think the near -blind allegiance of the sort this guy wants would hold even for those raised in India and migrated later. In fact, in some ways, they will be more familiar with the corrupt ways of the indian bureaucratic elite.

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:

Kris wrote:Guys like Dasgupta exemplify the ' see no evil' syndrome. 

dasgupta seems to come from the same snooty social background as mani shankar iyer, sorry aaiyaar, who once wrote that (and i am paraphrasing) the US is full of low class customer care people who are rude to their social superiors.