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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:13 pm

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2014/02/08/michael-dunn-trial-jordan-davis-saturday?hpt=hp_t2
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Post by Hellsangel Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:17 pm

Do you have a link to show he is a member of the NRA?
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:18 pm

Hellsangel wrote:Do you have a link to show he is a member of the NRA?

he is a self proclaimed NRA member. the NRA doesn't publish their membership.
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Post by Hellsangel Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:21 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:Do you have a link to show he is a member of the NRA?

he is a self proclaimed NRA member. the NRA doesn't publish their membership.
When did he proclaim that? I must have missed that news.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:26 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:Do you have a link to show he is a member of the NRA?

he is a self proclaimed NRA member. the NRA doesn't publish their membership.
When did he proclaim that? I must have missed that news.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/284543/483/A-look-at-Michael-Dunn--Jordan-Davis

Here's what we know about Dunn: The 45-year-old father of three is a software developer who lives in Satellite Beach in Brevard County. Lemonidis said her client is well-trained in firearms and is a member of the National Rifle Association. She said he frequently went to the range to target shoot.
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Post by Hellsangel Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:33 pm

Hmm. So he is thug coz he belongs to the NRA?
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:38 pm

Hellsangel wrote:Hmm. So he is thug coz he belongs to the NRA?

why was that not your first question instead of the one you asked?
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Post by Hellsangel Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:39 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:Hmm. So he is thug coz he belongs to the NRA?

why was that not your first question instead of the one you asked?
Patience. I'm getting there.
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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:45 pm

wayne lapierre of the NRA called federal law enforcement agents jack booted thugs. are federal law enforcement agents thugs because they are enforcing laws?
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Post by Hellsangel Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:49 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:wayne lapierre of the NRA called federal law enforcement agents jack booted thugs. are federal law enforcement agents thugs because they are enforcing laws?

During the Clinton Administration?
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Post by truthbetold Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:02 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:wayne lapierre of the NRA called federal law enforcement agents jack booted thugs. are federal law enforcement agents thugs because they are enforcing laws?

During the Clinton Administration?
An enforcement agent can be a thug in one admin and turn into patriotic enforcer in another admin?

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Post by Hellsangel Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:12 pm

truthbetold wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:wayne lapierre of the NRA called federal law enforcement agents jack booted thugs. are federal law enforcement agents thugs because they are enforcing laws?

During the Clinton Administration?
An enforcement agent can be a thug in one admin and turn into patriotic enforcer in another admin?

Well, Wayne La Pierre apologized for it. I guess that gives liberals the broad brush to call the NRA thugs. Another member of the NRA:

http://www.leighannetuohy.com/

Many more like her are quiet, law-abiding citizens who are philanthropic, hard-working and who just believe in their rights. But then liberals in their ivory towers like to flout their very beliefs against stereo-typing when it suits their convenience.

PS: It is for the jury to decide whether Dunn is guilty or not. Most likely he will be found guilty considering the way he handled himself after the shooting. (Big difference there with the Zimmerman case)
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Post by truthbetold Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:19 pm

Hell
Do you realize that two people died. there is no justifiable cause in either case. whatever may be legal implications of those shootings, can a society sustain such unfortunate loss of life? the lack of remorse by killers and their supporters is even worse. the idiots like rush limbaugh are more interested in polemics of gun laws than the lives of ordinary citizens.
nra's inability to support reasonable background search puts them in the same class as tea party extremists.
i have to disagree with you on the issue.

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Post by Hellsangel Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:28 pm

truthbetold wrote:Hell
Do you realize that two people died. there is no justifiable cause in either case. whatever may be legal implications of those shootings, can a society sustain such unfortunate loss of life? the lack of remorse by killers and their supporters is even worse. the idiots like rush limbaugh are more interested in polemics of gun laws than the lives of ordinary citizens.
nra's inability to support reasonable background search puts them in the same class as tea party extremists.
i have to disagree with you on the issue.

OK. In this case, what would a background check on Michael Dunn have proved?
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Post by truthbetold Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:04 pm

Hellsangel wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Hell
Do you realize that two people died. there is no justifiable cause in either case. whatever may be legal implications of those shootings, can a society sustain such unfortunate loss of life? the lack of remorse by killers and their supporters is even worse. the idiots like rush limbaugh are more interested in polemics of gun laws than the lives of ordinary citizens.
nra's inability to support reasonable background search puts them in the same class as tea party extremists.
i have to disagree with you on the issue.

OK. In this case, what would a background check on Michael Dunn have proved?
Am tryting to understand the connection between what I wrote and what you asked?  

The irrationality of NRA is displayed through its refusal to agree to a background search supported by large majority of Americans and a significant portion of NRA members. The background check is NRA related issue.  The benefits and importance of background checks were widely known and appreciated.  I did not suggest any remedies to Dunn's particular case.

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Post by Hellsangel Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:18 pm

truthbetold wrote:
Hellsangel wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Hell
Do you realize that two people died. there is no justifiable cause in either case. whatever may be legal implications of those shootings, can a society sustain such unfortunate loss of life? the lack of remorse by killers and their supporters is even worse. the idiots like rush limbaugh are more interested in polemics of gun laws than the lives of ordinary citizens.
nra's inability to support reasonable background search puts them in the same class as tea party extremists.
i have to disagree with you on the issue.

OK. In this case, what would a background check on Michael Dunn have proved?
Am tryting to understand the connection between what I wrote and what you asked?  

The irrationality of NRA is displayed through its refusal to agree to a background search supported by large majority of Americans and a significant portion of NRA members. The background check is NRA related issue.  The benefits and importance of background checks were widely known and appreciated.  I did not suggest any remedies to Dunn's particular case.

NRA-ILA | Don't Believe Everything You Read
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/3/dont-believe-everything-you-read.aspx

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Post by truthbetold Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:37 pm

Hell,
Pew research, with international reputation, is not credible.  NRA,  who has self interest in putting out facts to suits its own goals,  is more credible with its own self survey.  Does that make sense?

NRA does not release it membership rolls. Does not allow gun registry. Does not allow govt to computerize gun records.  Threatens people's representatives of electoral consequences at every chance.  Do these actions make them more credible?

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Post by Hellsangel Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:42 pm

truthbetold wrote:Hell,
Pew research, with international reputation, is not credible.  NRA,  who has self interest in putting out facts to suits its own goals,  is more credible with its own self survey.  Does that make sense?

NRA does not release it membership rolls. Does not allow gun registry. Does not allow govt to computerize gun records.  Threatens people's representatives of electoral consequences at every chance.  Do these actions make them more credible?
You're free to believe in whichever way your views tilt.
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