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Post by Guest Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:54 pm

Suppose you've been asked to fill a vacancy of someone who needs to work with you on specialized projects. There are only two candidates-- Adam and Bob.

Both Adam and Bob have done their undergraduate, graduate and post-graduate work in the field of their specialization. Both have done outstandingly well in their grad and post-grad. Not much to separate them except that you find Bob's post-grad work more interesting and fascinating but that could be because of your personal preference and predilection.

Now the difference comes in their undergrad. Adam has done outstandingly well in all semesters of his four year undergrad program. Bob, on the other hand, has done outstandingly well in his first, third and final year of his undergrad but he has given a mediocre performance during his second year of undergrad. In his second year, Bob got an 'F', two 'D's', and two or three 'C's' in the 10-12 courses he took that year. Other than the second year though, there is nothing to separate Bob and Adam when you consider their performance in their first year, third year, and final year of undergrad.

Who would you pick for the position--Adam or Bob? Give you reason.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:43 am

Rashmun wrote:Suppose you've been asked to fill a vacancy of someone who needs to work with you on specialized projects. There are only two candidates-- Adam and Bob.

Both Adam and Bob have done their undergraduate, graduate and post-graduate work in the field of their specialization. Both have done outstandingly well in their grad and post-grad. Not much to separate them except that you find Bob's post-grad work more interesting and fascinating but that could be because of your personal preference and predilection.

Now the difference comes in their undergrad. Adam has done outstandingly well in all semesters of his four year undergrad program. Bob, on the other hand, has done outstandingly well in his first, third and final year of his undergrad but he has given a mediocre performance during his second year of undergrad. In his second year, Bob got an 'F', two 'D's', and two or three 'C's' in the 10-12 courses he took that year. Other than the second year though, there is nothing to separate Bob and Adam when you consider their performance in their first year, third year, and final year of undergrad.

Who would you pick for the position--Adam or Bob? Give you reason.

Suppose now there is a third candidate Charles who has done graduate and post-graduate work of the same calibre and quality in the same specialization as Adam and Bob have done but the difference is that Charles has got poor grades all throughout his undergrad.

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Post by Kris Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:47 am

Rashmun wrote:Suppose you've been asked to fill a vacancy of someone who needs to work with you on specialized projects. There are only two candidates-- Adam and Bob.

Both Adam and Bob have done their undergraduate, graduate and post-graduate work in the field of their specialization. Both have done outstandingly well in their grad and post-grad. Not much to separate them except that you find Bob's post-grad work more interesting and fascinating but that could be because of your personal preference and predilection.

Now the difference comes in their undergrad. Adam has done outstandingly well in all semesters of his four year undergrad program. Bob, on the other hand, has done outstandingly well in his first, third and final year of his undergrad but he has given a mediocre performance during his second year of undergrad. In his second year, Bob got an 'F', two 'D's', and two or three 'C's' in the 10-12 courses he took that year. Other than the second year though, there is nothing to separate Bob and Adam when you consider their performance in their first year, third year, and final year of undergrad.

Who would you pick for the position--Adam or Bob? Give you reason.

>>>Go with Bob. He has shown the ability to bounce back from a really low year, which shows gumption. In this case, it also helps that you have an interest the work he has done. That will make for better chemistry even at the outset, which usually bodes well for a long term relationship. Incidentally, if Bob flunked his classes in his 2nd year, it could also have been a function of a little too much partying i.e. a gentleman who has pushed the boundaries at some point. This is also a plus in projects that require out -of -the -box thinking.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:56 am

Kris wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Suppose you've been asked to fill a vacancy of someone who needs to work with you on specialized projects. There are only two candidates-- Adam and Bob.

Both Adam and Bob have done their undergraduate, graduate and post-graduate work in the field of their specialization. Both have done outstandingly well in their grad and post-grad. Not much to separate them except that you find Bob's post-grad work more interesting and fascinating but that could be because of your personal preference and predilection.

Now the difference comes in their undergrad. Adam has done outstandingly well in all semesters of his four year undergrad program. Bob, on the other hand, has done outstandingly well in his first, third and final year of his undergrad but he has given a mediocre performance during his second year of undergrad. In his second year, Bob got an 'F', two 'D's', and two or three 'C's' in the 10-12 courses he took that year. Other than the second year though, there is nothing to separate Bob and Adam when you consider their performance in their first year, third year, and final year of undergrad.

Who would you pick for the position--Adam or Bob? Give you reason.

>>>Go with Bob. He has shown the ability to bounce back from a really low year, which shows gumption. In this case, it also helps that you have an interest the work he has done. That will make for better chemistry even at the outset, which usually bodes well for a long term relationship. Incidentally, if Bob flunked his classes in his 2nd year, it could also have been a function of a little too much partying i.e. a gentleman who has pushed the boundaries at some point. This is also a plus in projects that require out -of -the -box thinking.

what about Charles?* How do you compare him with Bob in particular?

* https://such.forumotion.com/t22449-a-management-recruiting-question#151764

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Post by Kris Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:12 am

Rashmun wrote:
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Rashmun wrote:Suppose you've been asked to fill a vacancy of someone who needs to work with you on specialized projects. There are only two candidates-- Adam and Bob.

Both Adam and Bob have done their undergraduate, graduate and post-graduate work in the field of their specialization. Both have done outstandingly well in their grad and post-grad. Not much to separate them except that you find Bob's post-grad work more interesting and fascinating but that could be because of your personal preference and predilection.

Now the difference comes in their undergrad. Adam has done outstandingly well in all semesters of his four year undergrad program. Bob, on the other hand, has done outstandingly well in his first, third and final year of his undergrad but he has given a mediocre performance during his second year of undergrad. In his second year, Bob got an 'F', two 'D's', and two or three 'C's' in the 10-12 courses he took that year. Other than the second year though, there is nothing to separate Bob and Adam when you consider their performance in their first year, third year, and final year of undergrad.

Who would you pick for the position--Adam or Bob? Give you reason.

>>>Go with Bob. He has shown the ability to bounce back from a really low year, which shows gumption. In this case, it also helps that you have an interest the work he has done. That will make for better chemistry even at the outset, which usually bodes well for a long term relationship. Incidentally, if Bob flunked his classes in his 2nd year, it could also have been a function of a little too much partying i.e. a gentleman who has pushed the boundaries at some point. This is also a plus in projects that require out -of -the -box thinking.

what about Charles?*  How do you compare him with Bob in particular?

* https://such.forumotion.com/t22449-a-management-recruiting-question#151764

>>>I wouldn't hold his undergrad grades against him, since he has done work after that which shows he is capable. That being said, I would still go with Bob since he has done work that you like. That will help in the early team building stages.

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:18 am

talk to them all and see who impresses you most. people who look good on paper sometimes turn out to be not so great in person.
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Post by indophile Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:10 am

Experience in our workplace has been that those grades/degrees don't matter much in terms of predicting future performance. But schools do. A guy from MIT/Harvard/Ann Arbor/Georgia Tech will be better choice than someone from a no name college.
What does matter is the ability to think on his feet, ability to think outside the box, and brevity yet effectiveness in communication, both oral and written.

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Post by b_A Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:38 pm

Please please tell me that it an hypothetical question and there is no compnay foolish enough to hire you and gasp, gasp, put you in management/recruiting position.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:00 pm

b_A wrote:Please please tell me that it an hypothetical question and there is no compnay foolish enough to hire you and gasp, gasp, put you in management/recruiting position.


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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:17 pm

indophile wrote:Experience in our workplace has been that those grades/degrees don't matter much in terms of predicting future performance. But schools do. A guy from MIT/Harvard/Ann Arbor/Georgia Tech will be better choice than someone from a no name college.
What does matter is the ability to think on his feet, ability to think outside the box, and brevity yet effectiveness in communication, both oral and written.

I will take Ann arbor/GT guy any day but will look closely at the gradeinflators MIT and Harvard grads.

Oh BTW, any ne Bob, Charles or dumbo can be hired for this company. After all, they hired Rashmunullah and put him in charge of hiring.. I hope none of the three accept the job offer frm this company...Razz

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Post by b_A Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:30 pm

Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:Please please tell me that it an hypothetical question and there is no compnay foolish enough to hire you and gasp, gasp, put you in management/recruiting position.


Things getting more absurd by the minute. You comparing to Reagan? Lallu is a better choice.
Which company is dumb enough to hire you? It should be in the hall of fame of "America's dumbest companies".


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Post by Guest Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:32 pm

b_A wrote:
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b_A wrote:Please please tell me that it an hypothetical question and there is no compnay foolish enough to hire you and gasp, gasp, put you in management/recruiting position.


Things getting more absurd by the minute. You comparing to Reagan?  Lallu is a better choice.

Where did you learn your english? some village in Bihar?

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Post by b_A Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:40 pm

Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
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b_A wrote:Please please tell me that it an hypothetical question and there is no compnay foolish enough to hire you and gasp, gasp, put you in management/recruiting position.


Things getting more absurd by the minute. You comparing to Reagan?  Lallu is a better choice.

Where did you learn your english? some village in Bihar?
No. In the Doon school. If you can be a manager, I can be from Doon School.


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Post by Guest Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:44 pm

b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:Please please tell me that it an hypothetical question and there is no compnay foolish enough to hire you and gasp, gasp, put you in management/recruiting position.


Things getting more absurd by the minute. You comparing to Reagan?  Lallu is a better choice.

Where did you learn your english? some village in Bihar?
No. In the Doon school. If you can be a manager, I can be from Doon School.


why is your english full of spelling and grammatical mistakes?

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Post by b_A Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:47 pm

Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:


Things getting more absurd by the minute. You comparing to Reagan?  Lallu is a better choice.

Where did you learn your english? some village in Bihar?
No. In the Doon school. If you can be a manager, I can be from Doon School.


why is your english full of spelling and grammatical mistakes?
Why is Rahul Gandhi so dumb?

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:50 pm

b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:

Things getting more absurd by the minute. You comparing to Reagan?  Lallu is a better choice.

Where did you learn your english? some village in Bihar?
No. In the Doon school. If you can be a manager, I can be from Doon School.


why is your english full of spelling and grammatical mistakes?
Why is Rahul Gandhi so dumb?

do you suffer from an inferiority complex because of your poor english?

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Post by b_A Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:51 pm

Rashmun wrote:
Rashmun wrote:Suppose you've been asked to fill a vacancy of someone who needs to work with you on specialized projects. There are only two candidates-- Adam and Bob.

Both Adam and Bob have done their undergraduate, graduate and post-graduate work in the field of their specialization. Both have done outstandingly well in their grad and post-grad. Not much to separate them except that you find Bob's post-grad work more interesting and fascinating but that could be because of your personal preference and predilection.

Now the difference comes in their undergrad. Adam has done outstandingly well in all semesters of his four year undergrad program. Bob, on the other hand, has done outstandingly well in his first, third and final year of his undergrad but he has given a mediocre performance during his second year of undergrad. In his second year, Bob got an 'F', two 'D's', and two or three 'C's' in the 10-12 courses he took that year. Other than the second year though, there is nothing to separate Bob and Adam when you consider their performance in their first year, third year, and final year of undergrad.

Who would you pick for the position--Adam or Bob? Give you reason.

Suppose now there is a third candidate Charles who has done graduate and post-graduate work of the same calibre and quality in the same specialization as Adam and Bob have done but the difference is that Charles has got poor grades all throughout his undergrad.

See how in 40 minutes his story goes from " there only two candidates" to a "third candidate".
This guy is as smart as Priyanka G.


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Post by b_A Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:52 pm

Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

Where did you learn your english? some village in Bihar?
No. In the Doon school. If you can be a manager, I can be from Doon School.


why is your english full of spelling and grammatical mistakes?
Why is Rahul Gandhi so dumb?

do you suffer from an inferiority complex because of your poor english?

Add poor psycho-analytical skills to your long list of deficiencies.

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:58 pm

b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
No. In the Doon school. If you can be a manager, I can be from Doon School.


why is your english full of spelling and grammatical mistakes?
Why is Rahul Gandhi so dumb?

do you suffer from an inferiority complex because of your poor english?

Add poor psycho-analytical skills to your long list of deficiencies.

is your english really poor or do you deliberately introduce grammatical and spelling mistakes in your posts when you write under your b_A handle so as to conceal your regular handle on this forum?

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Post by b_A Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:00 pm

Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
b_A wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

why is your english full of spelling and grammatical mistakes?
Why is Rahul Gandhi so dumb?

do you suffer from an inferiority complex because of your poor english?

Add poor psycho-analytical skills to your long list of deficiencies.

is your english really poor or do you deliberately introduce grammatical and spelling mistakes in your posts when you write under your b_A handle so as to conceal your regular handle on this forum?

What do you think ?

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