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Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
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Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
Perhaps they think that Modi as the prime minister of India will get rid of the current multiple, archaic, divisive and discriminatory religious / communal laws for different communities in the country and instead bring in the UCC (Uniform Civil Code: one law for everyone, irrespective of religion, race, caste and gender).
Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
Because these 'intellectuals' lack it. They are just the average academic Joes, but got certified as 'intellectual elite' by one kind of establishment that wanted to further the left leaning ideologies, causes and biases. With NaMo, they see a threat to their 'elite' status and hence the loud cry.
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
smArtha wrote:Because these 'intellectuals' lack it. They are just the average academic Joes, but got certified as 'intellectual elite' by one kind of establishment that wanted to further the left leaning ideologies, causes and biases. With NaMo, they see a threat to their 'elite' status and hence the loud cry.
Moreover, these "intellectuals" have no clue about what secularism really represents or stands for ... certainly not the use of religious laws by people officially (with Govt's permission) in a secular country.
Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
probably because they are not blind and deaf, and could read, listen to, and watch news reports, at least from as early as february 27, 2002.
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To me secular means taking god out of govt. decisions will be based on data , science and national traditions.
truthbetold- Posts : 6799
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
michelle2 wrote:probably because they are not blind and deaf, and could read, listen to, and watch news reports, at least from as early as february 27, 2002.
Of course, they could do ... read "reports" and "articles" etc. about Modi.
If Modi were guilty of any crime, he would be sitting in jail by now and out of the chief ministership in Gujarat.
Don't forget there is a totally hostile Govt. to him in the Center which would not waste a minute to get rid of him and throw him in jail if he had done anything wrong. But that has not happened for more than a decade.
Moreover, countless shitheads, inside and outside India, have been spewing anti-Modi venom and writing articles against him all this time (well over a decade), but still nothing of significance is there to get rid of him or put him in prison on any charges. The only silly outcome of the misinformation and false propaganda about Modi so far was that some countries in the West (including Britain and U.S.A. etc.) refused him the Visa to visit those places in the past, but now, after realizing that there is not much in terms of truth in the anti-Modi articles and propaganda (as also demonstrated by Indian courts' inability to convict Modi), these countries are reversing their earlier decision on the matter of visa to Modi.
Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Perhaps they think that Modi as the prime minister of India will get rid of the current multiple, archaic, divisive and discriminatory religious / communal laws for different communities in the country and instead bring in the UCC (Uniform Civil Code: one law for everyone, irrespective of religion, race, caste and gender).
Modi better threaten the current "facade" called secularism. What is currently practiced/followed in India is pSeudo/passive-iSlamic rule by a bunch of minority non-hindus with the help of a bunch of anti-hindu traitors interested only in enriching their family wealth.
The ONLY party that has made several promises to muslims - and only muslims - is Congress. It is easy to figure if Congerss is secular or not.
If Modi does not right the wrong, then I might as well support Syed Bhukhari - at least he is honest enough to acknowledge he supports Pakistan.
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
michelle2 wrote:probably because they are not blind and deaf, and could read, listen to, and watch news reports, at least from as early as february 27, 2002.
probably some of these secular are political or religious opportunists. for example flimflam.
he claims to be secular while spewing venom against Hindu religion.
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:Seva Lamberdar wrote:Perhaps they think that Modi as the prime minister of India will get rid of the current multiple, archaic, divisive and discriminatory religious / communal laws for different communities in the country and instead bring in the UCC (Uniform Civil Code: one law for everyone, irrespective of religion, race, caste and gender).
Modi better threaten the current "facade" called secularism.
India's secularism is one of the greatest myths, as evidenced by the official use of religious laws by different communities in the country currently.
Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
They have a good thing going all these years, and naturally they feel insecure about a possible change at the top.smArtha wrote:Because these 'intellectuals' lack it. They are just the average academic Joes, but got certified as 'intellectual elite' by one kind of establishment that wanted to further the left leaning ideologies, causes and biases. With NaMo, they see a threat to their 'elite' status and hence the loud cry.
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
If Modi were guilty of any crime, he would be sitting in jail by now and out of the chief ministership in Gujarat. -- seva.Seva Lamberdar wrote:michelle2 wrote:probably because they are not blind and deaf, and could read, listen to, and watch news reports, at least from as early as february 27, 2002.
Of course, they could do ... read "reports" and "articles" etc. about Modi.
If Modi were guilty of any crime, he would be sitting in jail by now and out of the chief ministership in Gujarat.
Don't forget there is a totally hostile Govt. to him in the Center which would not waste a minute to get rid of him and throw him in jail if he had done anything wrong. But that has not happened for more than a decade.
Moreover, countless shitheads, inside and outside India, have been spewing anti-Modi venom and writing articles against him all this time (well over a decade), but still nothing of significance is there to get rid of him or put him in prison on any charges. The only silly outcome of the misinformation and false propaganda about Modi so far was that some countries in the West (including Britain and U.S.A. etc.) refused him the Visa to visit those places in the past, but now, after realizing that there is not much in terms of truth in the anti-Modi articles and propaganda (as also demonstrated by Indian courts' inability to convict Modi), these countries are reversing their earlier decision on the matter of visa to Modi.
and you say that because justice is administered perfectly in india?
...countless shitheads... -- seva.
what?!
after realizing that there is not much in terms of truth in the anti-Modi articles and propaganda (as also demonstrated by Indian courts' inability to convict Modi), these countries are reversing their earlier decision on the matter of visa to Modi. -- seva.
not so; these countries are willing to reverse their earlier decision in order to show respect to the choice that the largest group of free and democratic people in human history are exercising.
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
Seva Lamberdar wrote:Perhaps they think that Modi as the prime minister of India will get rid of the current multiple, archaic, divisive and discriminatory religious / communal laws for different communities in the country and instead bring in the UCC (Uniform Civil Code: one law for everyone, irrespective of religion, race, caste and gender).
Intelluctuals.....that counts all 283 people in India....Phew....good that no one cares for this tiny group.
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
michelle2 wrote: If Modi were guilty of any crime, he would be sitting in jail by now and out of the chief ministership in Gujarat. -- seva.
and you say that because justice is administered perfectly in india?
You can say that about any country's justice system, including the U.S.A.
Moreover, don't forget that in Modi's case the Central Govt. would make sure that justice in India is administered 'perfectly' (using your word).
michelle2 wrote: ...countless shitheads... -- seva.
what?!
>>> these "well-known" authors and writers indicating in their articles and stories that Modi is a potential danger to current secularism in India just shows their ignorance about secularism, as indicated earlier.
michelle2 wrote: after realizing that there is not much in terms of truth in the anti-Modi articles and propaganda (as also demonstrated by Indian courts' inability to convict Modi), these countries are reversing their earlier decision on the matter of visa to Modi. -- seva.
not so; these countries are willing to reverse their earlier decision in order to show respect to the choice that the largest group of free and democratic people in human history are exercising.
The election is not even over yet. Moreoever, they have been trying to open the channels of communication with Modi for several months now, even indicating that Modi's application for visa will be considered if he applies.
Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
Seva Lamberdar wrote:michelle2 wrote: If Modi were guilty of any crime, he would be sitting in jail by now and out of the chief ministership in Gujarat. -- seva.
and you say that because justice is administered perfectly in india?
You can say that about any country's justice system, including the U.S.A.
Moreover, don't forget that in Modi's case the Central Govt. would make sure that justice in India is administered 'perfectly' (using your word).
this may be helpful:
http://worldjusticeproject.org/sites/default/files/files/wjp_rule_of_law_index_2014_report.pdf
in particular page 16 of the report. USA's rank is 19. india's is 66 flanked by vietnam and the dominican republic. some countries that outrank india -- botswana, malaysia, tunisia, senegal, sri lanka, nepal, lebanon, burkina faso, and morocco. your country is ranked 11th.
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
I agree. Indian judiciary sucks! The courts could do nothing to Rajiv Gandhi, Jagdish Tytler, H.K.L. Bhagat, Lalit Maken, etc for orchestrating and conducting the 1984 sikh riots. But then, they were the rulers at the center. Executive > judiciary in india.MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Seva Lamberdar wrote:michelle2 wrote: If Modi were guilty of any crime, he would be sitting in jail by now and out of the chief ministership in Gujarat. -- seva.
and you say that because justice is administered perfectly in india?
You can say that about any country's justice system, including the U.S.A.
Moreover, don't forget that in Modi's case the Central Govt. would make sure that justice in India is administered 'perfectly' (using your word).
this may be helpful:
http://worldjusticeproject.org/sites/default/files/files/wjp_rule_of_law_index_2014_report.pdf
in particular page 16 of the report. USA's rank is 19. india's is 66 flanked by vietnam and the dominican republic. some countries that outrank india -- botswana, malaysia, tunisia, senegal, sri lanka, nepal, lebanon, burkina faso, and morocco. your country is ranked 11th.
wrt Modi, why didn't the govt do anything for 10 yrs if he is the culprit? They were the rulers at the center. Are they so inefficient or did they know that he can't be convicted coz of lack of evidence?
https://such.forumotion.com/t22754-kapil-sibal-clinching-evidence-to-arrest-modi-and-amit-shah-in-ishrat-case
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
" The courts could do nothing to Rajiv Gandhi, Jagdish Tytler, H.K.L. Bhagat, Lalit Maken, etc for orchestrating and conducting the 1984 sikh riots. But then, they were the rulers at the center. Executive > judiciary in india."
Executive > Judiciary
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truthbetold- Posts : 6799
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Re: Why do the “intellectuals” think that Modi as Indian prime minister might threaten “secularism” in India?
MaxEntropy_Man wrote:Seva Lamberdar wrote:michelle2 wrote: If Modi were guilty of any crime, he would be sitting in jail by now and out of the chief ministership in Gujarat. -- seva.
and you say that because justice is administered perfectly in india?
You can say that about any country's justice system, including the U.S.A.
Moreover, don't forget that in Modi's case the Central Govt. would make sure that justice in India is administered 'perfectly' (using your word).
this may be helpful:
http://worldjusticeproject.org/sites/default/files/files/wjp_rule_of_law_index_2014_report.pdf
in particular page 16 of the report. USA's rank is 19. india's is 66 flanked by vietnam and the dominican republic. some countries that outrank india -- botswana, malaysia, tunisia, senegal, sri lanka, nepal, lebanon, burkina faso, and morocco. your country is ranked 11th.
But who is to blame for this poor law and order situation and justice system in India?
You can read the following, especially Section (c) and Appendix, for more clues,
http://creative.sulekha.com/parliamentary-faux-pas_595163_blog
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