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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:33 pm



.....The actress at a press meet added that she liked the principles of Islam and hence, took the decision

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Post by rawemotions Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:43 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

.....The actress at a press meet added that she liked the principles of Islam and hence, took the decision
I hope she knew that her conversion is going to be a one way ride, from which she cannot come back by re-conversion, if her relations with the prospective groom (presumably a Muslim) does not work out.

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Post by Guest Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:48 pm

rawemotions wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

.....The actress at a press meet added that she liked the principles of Islam and hence, took the decision
I hope she knew that her conversion is going to be a one way ride, from which she cannot come back by re-conversion, if her relations with the prospective groom (presumably a Muslim) does not work out.

Chander Mohan, is the former Deputy Chief Minister of Haryana State in India. he is son of Bhajan Lal and brother of HJC president Kuldeep Bishnoi.

Mohan was educated at the Lawrence School, Sanawar.[1] He was dismissed from the State Cabinet for his prolonged absence from the office and resurfaced after marrying Anuradha Bali, alias Fiza (Urdu: فضا ‎) and converting to Islam with her and adopting the name Chand Mohammad (Urdu: چاند محمد ‎). The conversion was merely to facilitate a legal second marriage, as Hindus/Sikhs are not allowed multiple marriages in India. Some Muslim clerics protested the misuse of the tenets of Islam for "a marriage of convenience".

For this act of bigamy, he was disowned by his father, Bhajan Lal, who was the former Chief Minister of Haryana State.[2]

On 29 January 2009, Mohan left Ms. Bali, claiming that he still loved his first wife and his children and wanted to reunite with them. He is believed to have moved to the Haryana city of Gurgaon at that time.

He converted back to Hinduism and was readmitted to the Bishnoi community at a brief ceremony held at the Bishnoi Mandir in Hisar on 28 July 2009 in presence of religious leaders.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chander_Mohan

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Post by rawemotions Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:00 pm

Rashmun wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

.....The actress at a press meet added that she liked the principles of Islam and hence, took the decision
I hope she knew that her conversion is going to be a one way ride, from which she cannot come back by re-conversion, if her relations with the prospective groom (presumably a Muslim) does not work out.

Chander Mohan, is the former Deputy Chief Minister of Haryana State in India. he is son of Bhajan Lal and brother of HJC president Kuldeep Bishnoi.

Mohan was educated at the Lawrence School, Sanawar.[1] He was dismissed from the State Cabinet for his prolonged absence from the office and resurfaced after marrying Anuradha Bali, alias Fiza (Urdu: فضا ‎) and converting to Islam with her and adopting the name Chand Mohammad (Urdu: چاند محمد ‎). The conversion was merely to facilitate a legal second marriage, as Hindus/Sikhs are not allowed multiple marriages in India. Some Muslim clerics protested the misuse of the tenets of Islam for "a marriage of convenience".

For this act of bigamy, he was disowned by his father, Bhajan Lal, who was the former Chief Minister of Haryana State.[2]

On 29 January 2009, Mohan left Ms. Bali, claiming that he still loved his first wife and his children and wanted to reunite with them. He is believed to have moved to the Haryana city of Gurgaon at that time.

He converted back to Hinduism and was readmitted to the Bishnoi community at a brief ceremony held at the Bishnoi Mandir in Hisar on 28 July 2009 in presence of religious leaders.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chander_Mohan
Are you denying that Punishment for Apostasy exists in the implementation and practice of many Muslim Majority countries and sanctioned by the allegedly Holy Islamic Books ? It might be a ok for a powerful politician, but it is not ok for most ordinary Muslims. 

Just assume that many Muslim women want to escape the unfair discriminatory Indian Islamic Personal law that allows Muslim males to marry up to four females OR escape the retrograde Muslim society obligation of the Burqa, to convert to Hinduism or Sikhism or Christianity. Is it possible ? 

You are Joker if you ignore the reality.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:12 pm

rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

.....The actress at a press meet added that she liked the principles of Islam and hence, took the decision
I hope she knew that her conversion is going to be a one way ride, from which she cannot come back by re-conversion, if her relations with the prospective groom (presumably a Muslim) does not work out.

Chander Mohan, is the former Deputy Chief Minister of Haryana State in India. he is son of Bhajan Lal and brother of HJC president Kuldeep Bishnoi.

Mohan was educated at the Lawrence School, Sanawar.[1] He was dismissed from the State Cabinet for his prolonged absence from the office and resurfaced after marrying Anuradha Bali, alias Fiza (Urdu: فضا ‎) and converting to Islam with her and adopting the name Chand Mohammad (Urdu: چاند محمد ‎). The conversion was merely to facilitate a legal second marriage, as Hindus/Sikhs are not allowed multiple marriages in India. Some Muslim clerics protested the misuse of the tenets of Islam for "a marriage of convenience".

For this act of bigamy, he was disowned by his father, Bhajan Lal, who was the former Chief Minister of Haryana State.[2]

On 29 January 2009, Mohan left Ms. Bali, claiming that he still loved his first wife and his children and wanted to reunite with them. He is believed to have moved to the Haryana city of Gurgaon at that time.

He converted back to Hinduism and was readmitted to the Bishnoi community at a brief ceremony held at the Bishnoi Mandir in Hisar on 28 July 2009 in presence of religious leaders.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chander_Mohan
Are you denying that Punishment for Apostasy exists in the implementation and practice of many Muslim Majority countries and sanctioned by the allegedly Holy Islamic Books ? It might be a ok for a powerful politician, but it is not ok for most ordinary Muslims. 

Just assume that many Muslim women want to escape the unfair discriminatory Indian Islamic Personal law that allows Muslim males to marry up to four females OR escape the retrograde Muslim society obligation of the Burqa, to convert to Hinduism or Sikhism or Christianity. Is it possible ? 

You are Joker if you ignore the reality.

He is not a joker but a cunning idiot.

Here we are talking about a W O M A N. And, he is quoting his langot-long newsitem about a M A N.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:46 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:

.....The actress at a press meet added that she liked the principles of Islam and hence, took the decision
I hope she knew that her conversion is going to be a one way ride, from which she cannot come back by re-conversion, if her relations with the prospective groom (presumably a Muslim) does not work out.

Chander Mohan, is the former Deputy Chief Minister of Haryana State in India. he is son of Bhajan Lal and brother of HJC president Kuldeep Bishnoi.

Mohan was educated at the Lawrence School, Sanawar.[1] He was dismissed from the State Cabinet for his prolonged absence from the office and resurfaced after marrying Anuradha Bali, alias Fiza (Urdu: فضا ‎) and converting to Islam with her and adopting the name Chand Mohammad (Urdu: چاند محمد ‎). The conversion was merely to facilitate a legal second marriage, as Hindus/Sikhs are not allowed multiple marriages in India. Some Muslim clerics protested the misuse of the tenets of Islam for "a marriage of convenience".

For this act of bigamy, he was disowned by his father, Bhajan Lal, who was the former Chief Minister of Haryana State.[2]

On 29 January 2009, Mohan left Ms. Bali, claiming that he still loved his first wife and his children and wanted to reunite with them. He is believed to have moved to the Haryana city of Gurgaon at that time.

He converted back to Hinduism and was readmitted to the Bishnoi community at a brief ceremony held at the Bishnoi Mandir in Hisar on 28 July 2009 in presence of religious leaders.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chander_Mohan
Are you denying that Punishment for Apostasy exists in the implementation and practice of many Muslim Majority countries and sanctioned by the allegedly Holy Islamic Books ? It might be a ok for a powerful politician, but it is not ok for most ordinary Muslims. 

Just assume that many Muslim women want to escape the unfair discriminatory Indian Islamic Personal law that allows Muslim males to marry up to four females OR escape the retrograde Muslim society obligation of the Burqa, to convert to Hinduism or Sikhism or Christianity. Is it possible ? 

You are Joker if you ignore the reality.

He is not a joker but a cunning idiot.

Here we are talking about a W O M A N. And, he is quoting his langot-long newsitem about a M A N.

This list includes both men and women:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Hinduism_from_Islam

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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Jun 02, 2014 5:39 am

Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
I hope she knew that her conversion is going to be a one way ride, from which she cannot come back by re-conversion, if her relations with the prospective groom (presumably a Muslim) does not work out.

Chander Mohan, is the former Deputy Chief Minister of Haryana State in India. he is son of Bhajan Lal and brother of HJC president Kuldeep Bishnoi.

Mohan was educated at the Lawrence School, Sanawar.[1] He was dismissed from the State Cabinet for his prolonged absence from the office and resurfaced after marrying Anuradha Bali, alias Fiza (Urdu: فضا ‎) and converting to Islam with her and adopting the name Chand Mohammad (Urdu: چاند محمد ‎). The conversion was merely to facilitate a legal second marriage, as Hindus/Sikhs are not allowed multiple marriages in India. Some Muslim clerics protested the misuse of the tenets of Islam for "a marriage of convenience".

For this act of bigamy, he was disowned by his father, Bhajan Lal, who was the former Chief Minister of Haryana State.[2]

On 29 January 2009, Mohan left Ms. Bali, claiming that he still loved his first wife and his children and wanted to reunite with them. He is believed to have moved to the Haryana city of Gurgaon at that time.

He converted back to Hinduism and was readmitted to the Bishnoi community at a brief ceremony held at the Bishnoi Mandir in Hisar on 28 July 2009 in presence of religious leaders.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chander_Mohan
Are you denying that Punishment for Apostasy exists in the implementation and practice of many Muslim Majority countries and sanctioned by the allegedly Holy Islamic Books ? It might be a ok for a powerful politician, but it is not ok for most ordinary Muslims. 

Just assume that many Muslim women want to escape the unfair discriminatory Indian Islamic Personal law that allows Muslim males to marry up to four females OR escape the retrograde Muslim society obligation of the Burqa, to convert to Hinduism or Sikhism or Christianity. Is it possible ? 

You are Joker if you ignore the reality.

He is not a joker but a cunning idiot.

Here we are talking about a W O M A N. And, he is quoting his langot-long newsitem about a M A N.

This list includes both men and women:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Hinduism_from_Islam
Chaddis caught with pants down! yet again

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Post by rawemotions Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:32 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

Chander Mohan, is the former Deputy Chief Minister of Haryana State in India. he is son of Bhajan Lal and brother of HJC president Kuldeep Bishnoi.

Mohan was educated at the Lawrence School, Sanawar.[1] He was dismissed from the State Cabinet for his prolonged absence from the office and resurfaced after marrying Anuradha Bali, alias Fiza (Urdu: فضا ‎) and converting to Islam with her and adopting the name Chand Mohammad (Urdu: چاند محمد ‎). The conversion was merely to facilitate a legal second marriage, as Hindus/Sikhs are not allowed multiple marriages in India. Some Muslim clerics protested the misuse of the tenets of Islam for "a marriage of convenience".

For this act of bigamy, he was disowned by his father, Bhajan Lal, who was the former Chief Minister of Haryana State.[2]

On 29 January 2009, Mohan left Ms. Bali, claiming that he still loved his first wife and his children and wanted to reunite with them. He is believed to have moved to the Haryana city of Gurgaon at that time.

He converted back to Hinduism and was readmitted to the Bishnoi community at a brief ceremony held at the Bishnoi Mandir in Hisar on 28 July 2009 in presence of religious leaders.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chander_Mohan
Are you denying that Punishment for Apostasy exists in the implementation and practice of many Muslim Majority countries and sanctioned by the allegedly Holy Islamic Books ? It might be a ok for a powerful politician, but it is not ok for most ordinary Muslims. 

Just assume that many Muslim women want to escape the unfair discriminatory Indian Islamic Personal law that allows Muslim males to marry up to four females OR escape the retrograde Muslim society obligation of the Burqa, to convert to Hinduism or Sikhism or Christianity. Is it possible ? 

You are Joker if you ignore the reality.

He is not a joker but a cunning idiot.

Here we are talking about a W O M A N. And, he is quoting his langot-long newsitem about a M A N.

This list includes both men and women:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Hinduism_from_Islam
Chaddis caught with pants down! yet again
This is a diversionary tactic. Is anyone here denying that apostasy exists in the practice of Islam ? As long as apostasy as a concept exists, it is a one way street. Because the practice of apostasy  as mentioned in the allegedly holy books, is used as a justification to threaten anybody who wants to convert back to Hinduism, despite the fact that the laws of the country allows re-conversions. 

The facts clearly speak for themselves.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-jihad-oommen-chandy-islam-kerala-muslim-marriage/1/215942.html

Excerpts
Among those converted to Islam during 2009-12, as many as 2667 were young women of which 2195 were Hindus and 492 were Christians. As against this number of young women converted during 2009-12 to Christianity and Hinduism were 79 and two respectively.


Chief Minister said there was no information regarding the original religions of women who converted to Hinduism and Christianity.


This is accordingly to official statistics from Kerala.  Un-official numbers could be much more. How many Muslim Women have converted back to Hinduism? The constitution permits this. Will the Jama Masjid Chief Cleric and other clerics in WB/Assam/UP/Bihar/Kerala/Coastal Karnataka and Hyderabad announce that any Muslim Woman that wants to convert and go out of Islam is free to do so and that there is no conflict between constitution and practice of Political Islam?

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:58 am

rawemotions wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
Are you denying that Punishment for Apostasy exists in the implementation and practice of many Muslim Majority countries and sanctioned by the allegedly Holy Islamic Books ? It might be a ok for a powerful politician, but it is not ok for most ordinary Muslims. 

Just assume that many Muslim women want to escape the unfair discriminatory Indian Islamic Personal law that allows Muslim males to marry up to four females OR escape the retrograde Muslim society obligation of the Burqa, to convert to Hinduism or Sikhism or Christianity. Is it possible ? 

You are Joker if you ignore the reality.

He is not a joker but a cunning idiot.

Here we are talking about a W O M A N. And, he is quoting his langot-long newsitem about a M A N.

This list includes both men and women:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Hinduism_from_Islam
Chaddis caught with pants down! yet again
This is a diversionary tactic. Is anyone here denying that apostasy exists in the practice of Islam ? As long as apostasy as a concept exists, it is a one way street. Because the practice of apostasy  as mentioned in the allegedly holy books, is used as a justification to threaten anybody who wants to convert back to Hinduism, despite the fact that the laws of the country allows re-conversions. 

The facts clearly speak for themselves.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-jihad-oommen-chandy-islam-kerala-muslim-marriage/1/215942.html

Excerpts
Among those converted to Islam during 2009-12, as many as 2667 were young women of which 2195 were Hindus and 492 were Christians. As against this number of young women converted during 2009-12 to Christianity and Hinduism were 79 and two respectively.


Chief Minister said there was no information regarding the original religions of women who converted to Hinduism and Christianity.


This is accordingly to official statistics from Kerala.  Un-official numbers could be much more. How many Muslim Women have converted back to Hinduism? The constitution permits this. Will the Jama Masjid Chief Cleric and other clerics in WB/Assam/UP/Bihar/Kerala/Coastal Karnataka and Hyderabad announce that any Muslim Woman that wants to convert and go out of Islam is free to do so and that there is no conflict between constitution and practice of Political Islam?

http://www.jstor.org/stable/4401654

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Post by confuzzled dude Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:01 pm

rawemotions wrote:This is a diversionary tactic. Is anyone here denying that apostasy exists in the practice of Islam ? As long as apostasy as a concept exists, it is a one way street. Because the practice of apostasy  as mentioned in the allegedly holy books, is used as a justification to threaten anybody who wants to convert back to Hinduism, despite the fact that the laws of the country allows re-conversions. 

The facts clearly speak for themselves.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-jihad-oommen-chandy-islam-kerala-muslim-marriage/1/215942.html

Excerpts
Among those converted to Islam during 2009-12, as many as 2667 were young women of which 2195 were Hindus and 492 were Christians. As against this number of young women converted during 2009-12 to Christianity and Hinduism were 79 and two respectively.

Chief Minister said there was no information regarding the original religions of women who converted to Hinduism and Christianity.

This is accordingly to official statistics from Kerala.  Un-official numbers could be much more. How many Muslim Women have converted back to Hinduism? The constitution permits this. Will the Jama Masjid Chief Cleric and other clerics in WB/Assam/UP/Bihar/Kerala/Coastal Karnataka and Hyderabad announce that any Muslim Woman that wants to convert and go out of Islam is free to do so and that there is no conflict between constitution and practice of Political Islam?
What diversionary tactcis? Rashmun cited several examples. We're talking about South India not some salafi land. There are many instances of Muslim-Hindu marraiges that didn't have to go through conversion process. About the ones converted to Islam, why do they need to convert back, if they're happy.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:03 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
rawemotions wrote:This is a diversionary tactic. Is anyone here denying that apostasy exists in the practice of Islam ? As long as apostasy as a concept exists, it is a one way street. Because the practice of apostasy  as mentioned in the allegedly holy books, is used as a justification to threaten anybody who wants to convert back to Hinduism, despite the fact that the laws of the country allows re-conversions. 

The facts clearly speak for themselves.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-jihad-oommen-chandy-islam-kerala-muslim-marriage/1/215942.html

Excerpts
Among those converted to Islam during 2009-12, as many as 2667 were young women of which 2195 were Hindus and 492 were Christians. As against this number of young women converted during 2009-12 to Christianity and Hinduism were 79 and two respectively.

Chief Minister said there was no information regarding the original religions of women who converted to Hinduism and Christianity.

This is accordingly to official statistics from Kerala.  Un-official numbers could be much more. How many Muslim Women have converted back to Hinduism? The constitution permits this. Will the Jama Masjid Chief Cleric and other clerics in WB/Assam/UP/Bihar/Kerala/Coastal Karnataka and Hyderabad announce that any Muslim Woman that wants to convert and go out of Islam is free to do so and that there is no conflict between constitution and practice of Political Islam?
What diversionary tactcis? Rashmun cited several examples. We're talking about South India not some salafi land. There are many instances of Muslim-Hindu marraiges that didn't have to go through conversion process. About the ones converted to Islam, why do they need to convert back, if they're happy.

take a look also at this:


http://www.jstor.org/stable/4401654

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:12 pm

Rashmun wrote:

take a look also at this:


http://www.jstor.org/stable/4401654

is the author any relation of the famous judge cashew burfy?
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Post by Guest Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:31 pm

MaxEntropy_Man wrote:
Rashmun wrote:

take a look also at this:


http://www.jstor.org/stable/4401654

is the author any relation of the famous judge cashew burfy?

no idea.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:06 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
You are Joker if you ignore the reality.

He is not a joker but a cunning idiot.

Here we are talking about a W O M A N. And, he is quoting his langot-long newsitem about a M A N.

This list includes both men and women:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Hinduism_from_Islam
Chaddis caught with pants down! yet again

really.... so all the converts out of iSlam can be put in a SINGLE list. But, to include all the names who converted INTO iSlam you will need a 28 volume pillow-sized ledgers, 27 of which would list people who were forced - directly or indirectly - into converting.

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Post by Guest Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:11 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Rashmun wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
rawemotions wrote:
You are Joker if you ignore the reality.

He is not a joker but a cunning idiot.

Here we are talking about a W O M A N. And, he is quoting his langot-long newsitem about a M A N.

This list includes both men and women:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Hinduism_from_Islam
Chaddis caught with pants down! yet again

really.... so all the converts out of iSlam can be put in a SINGLE list. But, to include all the names who converted INTO iSlam you will need a 28 volume pillow-sized ledgers, 27 of which would list people who were forced - directly or indirectly - into converting.

even an _ will know that the wikipedia list is not an exhaustive list.

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Post by rawemotions Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:15 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
rawemotions wrote:This is a diversionary tactic. Is anyone here denying that apostasy exists in the practice of Islam ? As long as apostasy as a concept exists, it is a one way street. Because the practice of apostasy  as mentioned in the allegedly holy books, is used as a justification to threaten anybody who wants to convert back to Hinduism, despite the fact that the laws of the country allows re-conversions. 

The facts clearly speak for themselves.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/love-jihad-oommen-chandy-islam-kerala-muslim-marriage/1/215942.html

Excerpts
Among those converted to Islam during 2009-12, as many as 2667 were young women of which 2195 were Hindus and 492 were Christians. As against this number of young women converted during 2009-12 to Christianity and Hinduism were 79 and two respectively.

Chief Minister said there was no information regarding the original religions of women who converted to Hinduism and Christianity.

This is accordingly to official statistics from Kerala.  Un-official numbers could be much more. How many Muslim Women have converted back to Hinduism? The constitution permits this. Will the Jama Masjid Chief Cleric and other clerics in WB/Assam/UP/Bihar/Kerala/Coastal Karnataka and Hyderabad announce that any Muslim Woman that wants to convert and go out of Islam is free to do so and that there is no conflict between constitution and practice of Political Islam?
What diversionary tactcis? Rashmun cited several examples. We're talking about South India not some salafi land. There are many instances of Muslim-Hindu marraiges that didn't have to go through conversion process. About the ones converted to Islam, why do they need to convert back, if they're happy.
You did not answer my main question repeated below, and are refusing to answer it. Why does Apostasy religious doctrine/laws exist if people are willingly staying in Islam, whether in India or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia ?

 Is anyone here denying that apostasy exists in the practice of Islam ? As long as apostasy as a concept exists, it is a one way street. Because the practice of apostasy  as mentioned in the allegedly holy books, is used as a justification to threaten anybody who wants to convert back to Hinduism, despite the fact that the laws of the country allows re-conversions. 

Islam controls its flock by intimidation. Apostasy religious laws/doctrine are used to force people from converting into some other religion, even if the laws of the country allows it. The asymmetry in statistics is clear proof of the same.  Political Islam forces people who are unhappy with Islam to NOT convert into anything else, by intimidation. I do not understand how any educated person can defend Apostasy laws. 

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