hostages in sydney

by Guest Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:19 pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-15/hostages-sydney-cafe-martin-place-police-operation/5967232

Heavily armed police have taken position around the Lindt cafe in central Sydney
Hostages have been seen inside the cafe with their hands in the air
Black flag with white Arabic writing reading "There is no God but Allah" and "Mohammed is the messenger of God" waved behind the hostages
Martin Place and Sydney Opera House have been evacuated
National Security Committee of Cabinet has convened; Prime Minister Tony Abbott described incident as "deeply concerning" and offered NSW all assistance possible.

by southindian Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:31 pm

LOL

What did the Aussies do against Islam? Smile

These bastards will NOT leave any country or stop for a community.

They are a menace to humanity and the world.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:22 pm

Hahaha....I cant wait for the Apologist buffoons to respond with reasons, excuses, and justifications added by explanation on how they were just provoked.

I hope these guys continue a bit more to provoke the West to go swinging at them...certainly the Naive hindus wont do anything (despite Modi ji and RSS Chaddis).

by Kris Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:24 am

southindian wrote:LOL

What did the Aussies do against Islam?

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>>I don't know. Vegemite sandwiches, maybe?

by Merlot Daruwala Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:25 am

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Hahaha....I cant wait for the Apologist buffoons to respond with reasons, excuses, and justifications added by explanation on how they were just provoked.

Why not, Upps Aunty? You have waited so long for these mythical strawmen to oblige you, but with no success. So why not wait for some more time? It's not as if you have any other pressing demands on your time...

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
I hope these guys continue a bit more to provoke the West to go swinging at them...certainly the Naive hindus wont do anything (despite Modi ji and RSS Chaddis).

Typical limpwristed chaddi! Forever waiting for some stronger party to step in and whack people you don't like. You really should listen to Doc Ash and start eating more goat so you can grow a pair and do your own dirty work.

by Merlot Daruwala Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:26 am

Kris wrote:
southindian wrote:LOL

What did the Aussies do against Islam?

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>>I don't know. Vegemite sandwiches, maybe?

Haha...but that qualifies as a crime against humanity. A very secular offence IMO.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:42 am

....SYDNEY: Dozens of hostages were trapped inside a central Sydney cafe on Monday, with local television showing some being forced to hold up a black flag with white Arabic writing in the window, raising fears of an attack linked to Islamic militants.

by Merlot Daruwala Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:07 am

Upps Aunty, you seem very excited today. Why?

by truthbetold Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:23 am

Shameless jihadi apologist can only find aunty type comments when his favorite nephews indulge barbaric rituals. Whether it is Bangalore twitter or Australian gunman holding hostage. Md is consumed by the defence of the Islamic jihad.

by truthbetold Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:24 am

Shameless jihadi apologist can only find aunty type comments when his favorite nephews indulge barbaric rituals. Whether it is Bangalore twitter or Australian gunman holding hostage. Md is consumed by the defence of the Islamic jihad.

by Merlot Daruwala Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:28 am

truthbetold wrote:Shameless jihadi apologist can only find aunty type comments when his favorite nephews indulge barbaric rituals. Whether it is Bangalore twitter or Australian gunman holding hostage. Md is consumed by the defence of the Islamic jihad.

Oh TBT, stop being a jealous attention-whore. Upps Aunty deserves every bit of the attention I lavish on her. You on the other hand, have nothing interesting to say, ever, beyond some lowbrow namecalling.

by indophile Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:16 am

Kris wrote:
southindian wrote:LOL

What did the Aussies do against Islam?

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>>I don't know. Vegemite sandwiches, maybe?

That, and may be because the Aussies refuse to sell their prized Merina sheep to Saudi Arabia back in the 70's. This was even after the Saudis promised 72 virgin local sheep to the import for R&R before ritually killing the import for its own shahadat and deliverance, and of course for some rogan josh as a byproduct. Instead, the Aussies offered to host a mullah from the holy land on a permanent basis to mumble the ritualistic allah bismillah before the sheep are killed slowly at local slaughterhouses.

by smArtha Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:28 am

So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

by Guest Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:38 am

smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

Remember the Boston bombers? They were refugees too who were on social security. These are gratitude-less people; like snakes which bite the hands that feed them. No amount of helping and appeasing can please them.

by Kris Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:24 am

smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

by southindian Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:41 am

Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

70s... Those were the good old days when one could raise exceptions about Islam and still get away alive. Islamists now have become rogue in EVERY COUNTRY much like mad-cow disease. Forget about meaningful discussions to accept their book content and teachings they are now all out to wipe-out anyone who does not follow their God or the teachings.

Even a country like Australia is not spared. Allegedly educated people, like some on SuCH and like the ISIS twitter operator get pulled in despite their education.

by smArtha Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:53 am

Kris wrote:

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

The first and foremost Rule of Engagement with such militant groups is to deal with them by their own Books and Practices than by those of larger civilized/matured societies. This is what Krishna too implied when he made Pandavas violate established warfare dharmas in the Kurukshetra war.

by Propagandhi711 Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:57 am

Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

third world marxist "intellectuals" bristle at his views and deride him as a brown colonialist, but he calls a spade a spade. and no one writes/wrote better prose that I read

by smArtha Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:27 pm

Kinnera wrote:

Remember the Boston bombers? They were refugees too who were on social security. These are gratitude-less people; like snakes which bite the hands that feed them. No amount of helping and appeasing can please them.

Yes all snakes do bite a feeding hand. It is a different thing that some are venomous and others aren't. However, today in our societies, we are supposed to act only if the bite was venomous enough to take lives.

by garam_kuta Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:53 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

third world marxist "intellectuals" bristle at his views and deride him as a brown colonialist, but he calls a spade a spade. and no one writes/wrote better prose that I read

He is one of Conrad's legacy.

Try this... "the meaning of an episode was not inside like a kernel but outside, enveloping the tale which brought it out only as a glow brings out a haze"

in the heart of darkness

and

"...They were two perfectly insignificant and incapable individuals, whose existence is only rendered possible through the high organization of civilized crowds. Few men realize that their life, the very essence of their character, their capabilities and their audacities, are only the expression of their belief in the safety of their surroundings. The courage, the composure, the confidence; the emotions and principles; every great and every insignificant thought belongs not to the individual but to the crowd: to the crowd that believes blindly in the irresistible force of its institutions and of its morals, in the power of its police and of its opinion..."

in Outpost of Progress

Aside: I'll not get into the similarities in views of you and Naipaul on women.

by truthbetold Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:43 pm

Merlot Daruwala wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Shameless jihadi apologist can only find aunty type comments when his favorite nephews indulge barbaric rituals. Whether it is Bangalore twitter or Australian gunman holding hostage. Md is consumed by the defence of the Islamic jihad.

Oh TBT, stop being a jealous attention-whore. Upps Aunty deserves every bit of the attention I lavish on her. You on the other hand, have nothing interesting to say, ever, beyond some lowbrow namecalling.

Md
You think you can escape by some unrelated idiotic comment. You are a coward. If you believe in Islamic jihad, then come out to defend it. If you cannot stand up for your beliefs and try underhand diversionary propaganda it only exposes you.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:33 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

third world marxist "intellectuals" bristle at his views and deride him as a brown colonialist, but he calls a spade a spade. and no one writes/wrote better prose that I read

The Islamic Apologetic Buffoons have a very short memory. When the Ayotollah came to power with the help of the quite powerful Iranian Commies, the first thing he did was to go after the commies and get rid of them lock, stock, and barrel.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:40 pm

Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

repeat after me please: Islam is beyond analysis. Period.

by southindian Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:15 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

repeat after me please: Islam is beyond analysis. Period.

I repeat:

Islam is beyond analysis.
Islam is beyond analysis.
Islam is beyond analysis.
Islam is beyond analysis.
Islam is beyond analysis.

by Kris Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:26 pm

Propagandhi711 wrote:
Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:So this guy was a refugee from Iran comfortably settled in Australia.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sydney-hostage-crisis/liveblog/45518477.cms

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

third world marxist "intellectuals" bristle at his views and deride him as a brown colonialist, but he calls a spade a spade. and no one writes/wrote better prose that I read

>>>Yep. There are also politically correct types in the first world who get bent out of shape. It doesn't sit well that a brown guy doesn't mouth the party line.

by Kris Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:29 pm

smArtha wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

The first and foremost Rule of Engagement with such militant groups is to deal with them by their own Books and Practices than by those of larger civilized/matured societies. This is what Krishna too implied when he made Pandavas violate established warfare dharmas in the Kurukshetra war.

Bingo. It is either this or almost certain suicide.

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:42 pm

Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

The first and foremost Rule of Engagement with such militant groups is to deal with them by their own Books and Practices than by those of larger civilized/matured societies. This is what Krishna too implied when he made Pandavas violate established warfare dharmas in the Kurukshetra war.
Bingo. It is either this or almost certain suicide.

That is why I recommend Sharia Law for Indian Muslims - as they prefer Koranic laws for enslavement of women, criminal law also should be applicable.

kris Aunty...Looks like you have hidden your Islamic hatred very well...this far.

by Guest Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:03 pm

Two hostages dead Crying or Very sad

along with the mullah man.

by SomeProfile Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:16 pm

southindian wrote:What did the Aussies do against Islam?

That's the wrong question to ask. The correction question is: "What did Aussies do for Islam?"

Answer: Aussies have allowed the percentage of Mussie population to rise in certain areas. They have turned into lawless ghettos where even Aussie police are afraid to venture. Weren't there street battles a few years ago in these ghettos between the Aussie police and the migrant Mussies? I only imagine the Mussie pests have grown larger in number in Aussie land. The result is Mussies planning random public beheadings and taking hostages in Aussie land.

Conclusion: You don't need to do anything against Islam to have a Mussie problem. You just have to let their numbers grow. They will automatically turn into violent pests when they grow beyond a certain number.

by confuzzled dude Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:24 pm

Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

The first and foremost Rule of Engagement with such militant groups is to deal with them by their own Books and Practices than by those of larger civilized/matured societies. This is what Krishna too implied when he made Pandavas violate established warfare dharmas in the Kurukshetra war.
Bingo. It is either this or almost certain suicide.

You mean by converting others into muslims? Isn't that what Bush administration kind of tried in the form of enhanced interrogation techniques?

by Kris Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:48 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:
smArtha wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>Naipaul refers to this syndrome in 'Among the Believers' even in day-to-day life. The West is taken for granted for the benefits it has engendered, but Islam is not subject to any analysis. He points out the irony in this, which is that Islam does not provide any tools for analysis and ends up getting a free pass. Incidentally, the book was written in the late 70s and is very prescient.

The first and foremost Rule of Engagement with such militant groups is to deal with them by their own Books and Practices than by those of larger civilized/matured societies. This is what Krishna too implied when he made Pandavas violate established warfare dharmas in the Kurukshetra war.
Bingo. It is either this or almost certain suicide.
You mean by converting others into muslims? Isn't that what Bush administration kind of tried in the form of enhanced interrogation techniques?

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?

by confuzzled dude Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:02 pm

Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?

Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?

by Guest Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:07 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?

Was the Philadelphia guy inspired by his religion to do so?

by confuzzled dude Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:09 pm

Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?
Was the Philadelphia guy inspired by his religion to do so?

You're preaching to the choir, that precisely is my point. All those references to the outdated stuff like Geetha, Mahabharatha don't apply to present day.

by Guest Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:10 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kinnera wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?
Was the Philadelphia guy inspired by his religion to do so?
You're preaching to the choir, that precisely is my point.

What's your point again?

by Kris Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:14 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?

>>>Because the hostage takers in Sydney are doing it in the name of Islam, just like those who attacked the United States and others we frequently see in the news around the world. It is the 900 pound gorilla in the living room people can't talk around. That still doesn't answer my questions: Who is converting to Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?

by confuzzled dude Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:29 pm

Kris wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?

>>>Because the hostage takers in Sydney are doing it in the name of Islam, just like those who attacked the United States and others we frequently see in the news around the world. It is the 900 pound gorilla in the living room people can't talk around. That still doesn't answer my questions: Who is converting to Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?

Yes. US certainly is on decline (economically) compared to 2000. How many times was it attacked prior to 9-11?

My point about conversion was to Smartha's reference to MahaBharatha on rules of engagement. I meant, are we asking the soldiers to perform islamic rituals like beheadings which in itself is sort of converting them to islam.

by confuzzled dude Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:38 pm

Kris wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?

>>>Because the hostage takers in Sydney are doing it in the name of Islam, just like those who attacked the United States and others we frequently see in the news around the world. It is the 900 pound gorilla in the living room people can't talk around. That still doesn't answer my questions: Who is converting to Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?

Also, it doesn't matter how many times it has been attacked post 9-11 or not. The fact that you're paying more attention to an islamic related incident that occurred in a faraway land than the gun killing incident that happened in the land you live in tells me that you have no faith in whatever your govt. has done to curb terrorism, you're simply putting up a facade by questioning yourself and others how many times has US been attacked.

by Guest Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:08 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?

>>>Because the hostage takers in Sydney are doing it in the name of Islam, just like those who attacked the United States and others we frequently see in the news around the world. It is the 900 pound gorilla in the living room people can't talk around. That still doesn't answer my questions: Who is converting to Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Also, it doesn't matter how many times it has been attacked post 9-11 or not. The fact that you're paying more attention to an islamic related incident that occurred in a faraway land than the gun killing incident that happened in the land you live in tells me that you have no faith in whatever your govt. has done to curb terrorism, you're simply putting up a facade by questioning yourself and others how many times has US been attacked.

Who the philly guy killed were his ex-wife and her relatives. He was on a custody battle with her for the past 5 yrs. He didn't go around killing random people in the name of religion, god, scripture, etc. How can you compare that with what the muslim lunatics are doing all over the world in the name of Islam, Allah and quoting Quran? This is cancerous and that sick ideology should be resisted. It can't be ignored.

Just imagine hindus taking random innocents ppl as hostages in the name of hinduism and making them display placards which read, 'Krishna is the one and only God. There is no other God'. Won't you be freaking out? Would you be concerned about that or about a guy who shot his ex-wife and her relatives?

by Kris Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:40 pm

The fact that post 9-11,there have been no terrorist attacks on the US is nothing to brush aside. The acts of islamicterror workdwide are monitored not because of any cowing down to terrorists. It is a part of the west's intel gathering. If there was a threat from various guys going postal on their exes due to some ideological creed, they would keep tabs on that too. i didn't understand the mahabharata reference. I don't think SMartha was asking anyone to behaed people. Lastly,the US economic cycles have nothing to do with terrorism. At best, it can attributed to china's ascent even in that regard, america is still the most powerful economy in the world
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by confuzzled dude Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:37 pm

Kris wrote:The fact that post 9-11,there have been no terrorist attacks on the US is nothing to brush aside. The acts of islamicterror workdwide are monitored not because of any cowing down to terrorists. It is a part of the west's intel gathering. If there was a threat from various guys going postal on their exes due to some ideological creed, they would keep tabs on that too. i didn't understand the mahabharata reference. I don't think SMartha was asking anyone to behaed people. Lastly,the US economic cycles have nothing to do with terrorism. At best, it can attributed to china's ascent even in that regard, america is still the most powerful economy in the world
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But it didn't appear to have given you much confidence. About your other point, I was not talking about intel gathering rather the excitement/fear it generated on SuCH. Third point, of course Smartha was talking about beheadings when he said deal them by their own book and practices, if not he must be suggesting the whole world to convert to Islam.

by Kris Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:30 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:The fact that post 9-11,there have been no terrorist attacks on the US is nothing to brush aside. The acts of islamicterror workdwide are monitored not because of any cowing down to terrorists. It is a part of the west's intel gathering. If there was a threat from various guys going postal on their exes due to some ideological creed, they would keep tabs on that too. i didn't understand the mahabharata reference. I don't think SMartha was asking anyone to behaed people. Lastly,the US economic cycles have nothing to do with terrorism. At best, it can attributed to china's ascent even in that regard, america is still the most powerful economy in the world
.
But it didn't appear to have given you much confidence. About your other point, I was not talking about intel gathering rather the excitement/fear it generated on SuCH. Third point, of course Smartha was talking about beheadings when he said deal them by their own book and practices, if not he must be suggesting the whole world to convert to Islam.

>>>What didn't appear to give me much confidence? The fact that there have been no attacks since 2001? Discussion of assorted hostage taking incidents is an indication that refutes actual experience over 13 years? The reason this is in the news is because it is an intel issue for the country. SUCHers will discuss it just like people at the office cooler crowd. Is there an unwritten code that certain topics are off limits in this forum. On your third point, it is a huge stretch to see Smartha suggesting connversion to slam. Let's say you get mugged, you hit the guy back. Does that make you a mugger then?

by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:56 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:

>>>>Who is converting into Islam? Is the US on the decline ? How many times has it been attacked after 9-11?
Then why is this hullbaloo, whenever some crazy moron does some shitty thing like in Australia? SuCH shouldn't have treated this incident any different than the Philadelphia incident where another crazy guy killed 5 people, but did we?

Look who is talking... Razz

You and your iLk had no qualms in screaming for day on and end about hindus, hindu terrorists, and BJP, RSS, blah blah when a few Ram Sene guys beat up 3 women at a bar. But when mussies kill/bomb peeople month after month and week after week, you accuse the world of making a hullabaloo.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:54 am

truthbetold wrote:
Merlot Daruwala wrote:
truthbetold wrote:Shameless jihadi apologist can only find aunty type comments when his favorite nephews indulge barbaric rituals. Whether it is Bangalore twitter or Australian gunman holding hostage. Md is consumed by the defence of the Islamic jihad.

Oh TBT, stop being a jealous attention-whore. Upps Aunty deserves every bit of the attention I lavish on her. You on the other hand, have nothing interesting to say, ever, beyond some lowbrow namecalling.
Md
You think you can escape by some unrelated idiotic comment. You are a coward. If you believe in Islamic jihad, then come out to defend it. If you cannot stand up for your beliefs and try underhand diversionary propaganda it only exposes you.

Your delusions have now reached psychopathic levels. Go consult a shrink urgently. You need help.

by Merlot Daruwala Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:02 am

confuzzled dude wrote:
Kris wrote:The fact that post 9-11,there have been no terrorist attacks on the US is nothing to brush aside. The acts of islamicterror workdwide are monitored not because of any cowing down to terrorists. It is a part of the west's intel gathering. If there was a threat from various guys going postal on their exes due to some ideological creed, they would keep tabs on that too. i didn't understand the mahabharata reference. I don't think SMartha was asking anyone to behaed people. Lastly,the US economic cycles have nothing to do with terrorism. At best, it can attributed to china's ascent even in that regard, america is still the most powerful economy in the world
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But it didn't appear to have given you much confidence. About your other point, I was not talking about intel gathering rather the excitement/fear it generated on SuCH. Third point, of course Smartha was talking about beheadings when he said deal them by their own book and practices, if not he must be suggesting the whole world to convert to Islam.

Classy NRI patriots, despite their unlimited bravado on the internets and immense physical courage when in large groups facing down a single sickular news reporter doing his job, are quite cowardly in person. Varun Gandhi captured the visceral fear of Muslims most accurately when he spoke of how the mere sound of names like Kareemullah and Mazullah scare him.

So until they heed Doc Ash and eat enough goat to get over their fears, you will see this kind of hysterical, limpwristed breastbeating from classy NRI patriots of SUCH each time a Muslim nutjob does something bad. On the other hand, white nutjobs can mow down malls full of innocent civilians with M16s and not elicit as much as a peep.

by Guest Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:37 am

"On the other hand, white nutjobs can mow down malls full of innocent civilians with M16s and not elicit as much as a peep."

Oh people here post volumes on gun and mental disease, which is the dominant underlying factor there. The dominant underlying factor in this case is the guy's religious fanaticism. Why else would he send hate mails to soldiers and make hostages hold up Allah flags? He is a nut job all right, but of the unpopular religious kind, and hence the appropriate bashing. The only one which most desis don't spend as much time on are the kkk peeps coz that's about race, and is not exactly a global/indian concern or experience. But that kind of bashing do surface in other kinds of white-black-others standoffs. People here argue just about everything political Smile

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by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:09 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:"On the other hand, white nutjobs can mow down malls full of innocent civilians with M16s and not elicit as much as a peep."

Oh people here post volumes on gun and mental disease, which is the dominant underlying factor there. The dominant underlying factor in this case is the guy's religious fanaticism. Why else would he send hate mails to soldiers and make hostages hold up Allah flags? He is a nut job all right, but of the unpopular religious kind, and hence the appropriate bashing. The only one which most desis don't spend as much time on are the kkk peeps coz that's about race, and is not exactly a global/indian concern or experience. But that kind of bashing do surface in other kinds of white-black-others standoffs. People here argue just about everything political .

Well... but the white guys dont call "Hallalujah" after mowing down people.

Also, most people who dont miss a beat in criticising gun violence and killing of 2 children and beating of 3 hindu women by "hindu" thugs stay silent when Islamis blast 1, 5, 10, or 100 people. Why do you think it is that way? Bcz that is how people are.

by Merlot Daruwala Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:16 am

Beatrix Kiddo wrote:"On the other hand, white nutjobs can mow down malls full of innocent civilians with M16s and not elicit as much as a peep."

Oh people here post volumes on gun and mental disease, which is the dominant underlying factor there. The dominant underlying factor in this case is the guy's religious fanaticism. Why else would he send hate mails to soldiers and make hostages hold up Allah flags? He is a nut job all right, but of the unpopular religious kind, and hence the appropriate bashing. The only one which most desis don't spend as much time on are the kkk peeps coz that's about race, and is not exactly a global/indian concern or experience. But that kind of bashing do surface in other kinds of white-black-others standoffs. People here argue just about everything political .

That's absolutely right. That's absolutely why religion is called the opium of the masses. That said, how come the dominant underlying factor ie religion never came under the scrutiny of classy NRI patriots on this board when when this happened?

by truthbetold Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:43 am

Md
That incident in Oslo was dealt with required promptness and moral clarity by state machinary and people living there. Today lot more Islamic believers are flocking to Oslo than other places.

Why is your objection to Islam being named as a partner in crime in Peshawar children murder?

by Merlot Daruwala Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:30 am

truthbetold wrote:Md
That incident in Oslo was dealt with required promptness and moral clarity by state machinary and people living there. Today lot more Islamic believers are flocking to Oslo than other places.

Why is your objection to Islam being named as a partner in crime in Peshawar children murder?

Unkil, don't feel obliged to get into every discussion when you have nothing to say.

But since you already butted in, I'll happily clarify. Just promise me you'll read it, breath deeply and introspect (to the extent possible) before you rush to blitz us with your usual inanity.

See, this is not about how the police responded. This is about how classy NRI patriots on SUCH respond to *some* religion-inspired incidents with much more alarm and panic than others. When it is Islam, there is so much hysterical breastbeating by the limpwristed about the religion and not the individual(s). When it is Christianity, there is just the sound of crickets.

If this is too hard to process, fret not. Stick with your usual namecalling. We won't think any lesser of you. We simply can't.

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