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I hated everything about America — until I moved here

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Post by confuzzled dude Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:41 pm

But what colored my image of the United States were the pompous relatives and friends who came back to India after an education in the “blessed land.” They would talk with a patronizing air as if they had nothing more to learn. They would carry around their own bottled water, claiming that drinking the local water now made them sick. They would speak disapprovingly of the country’s “social evils” — the caste system, the payment of dowries, the preference for male children – with a newly acquired Yankee accent.

They would scoff at these things, ignoring the progress being made in India – many of the girls in our family were college-educated and had jobs. The returning experts who brought along their new white spouses were more insufferable than others. One such relative loved to bring up topics related to sex at the dinner table, then laugh at the sight of our uncomfortable faces.

“Do you see how they try and change the topic?” he would point out to his white spouse. “You see, sex is a taboo subject in India.”

These experiences led me to believe America was a place of condescending, lascivious xenophobes. They had India all wrong, I thought. 
Three years after we married, my husband got a job in Singapore. He waved away my tearful arguments, promising we could return to India if I didn’t like it. Luckily, Singapore turned out to be a paradise. I frequented the malls, parks and libraries, marveling at the order and discipline, which was sorely missing in India. I got a great job as a magazine editor that allowed me to travel and connect with people from around the world. I absorbed new concepts and examined my old beliefs.
That was just the first of my many positive revelations about Americans. As it turned out, of the various people my job put me in touch with, Americans were the ones I got along with best. They were funny and genial. They spoke engagingly, embodying all the golden rules of public speaking that I had read in Toastmasters manuals: body language, vocal variety, persuasiveness. And their confidence was impressive; almost every American I came across – man or woman, subordinate or the top executive – had a certain confidence (sometimes bordering on cockiness) that came from being totally at ease with the world. I admired the freedom and congeniality. 

The sense of camaraderie made me feel welcome and comfortable in no time. Americans weren’t bad people at all.
These days, I surprise myself by strongly defending America against trite negative characterizations I hear in other countries. When I was young, I believed that Americans unfairly stereotyped India, but in fact, I had unfairly stereotyped Americans. I had criticized them for not knowing my culture, when I was equally ignorant about theirs. The truth is, the United States is not a land of arrogant xenophobes. It’s also not a utopia of freedom and wealth. Like all nations, it harbors a complicated culture, with many layers of good and bad.

If I were to write an essay about India’s brain drain today, I would not argue against the best and brightest leaving the country. Instead, I would encourage them to contribute to India by sending remittances to family from abroad, to help boost India’s economy and social progress. When people expand their worldview, they enrich themselves and humanity as a whole. I started off as an Indian, but I have become a global citizen.
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I was always fascinated about America and I still am, even after having lived in this country for more than two decades. Although I watched and liked many Hollywood action & western movies in India, was completely oblivious to the gun culture (of course, that was nearly a generation prior to this author's experience & before information age), had no exposure to American returned or those visiting home. Things that shocked me the most were short hairs and conservatism despite being aware of slavery and the treatment meted out to the blacks. I guess, I subconsciously assumed that was a thing of past and everyone is a changed person. In any case, at the end of the day, I can proudly say that America made me a better person and gave me a different perspective of looking at things. I probably would've lived like a chaddi had I lived in India all my life.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:58 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
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I was always fascinated about America and I still am, even after having lived in this country for more than two decades. Although I watched and liked many Hollywood action & western movies in India, was completely oblivious to the gun culture (of course, that was nearly a generation prior to this author's experience & before information age), had no exposure to American returned or those visiting home. Things that shocked me the most were short hairs and conservatism despite being aware of slavery and the treatment meted out to the blacks. I guess, I subconsciously assumed that was a thing of past and everyone is a changed person. In any case, at the end of the day, I can proudly say that America made me a better person and gave me a different perspective of looking at things. I probably would've lived like a chaddi had I lived in India all my life.

Instead you turned out to be an anti-hindu, iSlami-loving , "fake, liberal, intellectual" show-off.

P.S. this is an important post that sheds some points on why you are like what you are.

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Post by confuzzled dude Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:02 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/30/guns-sex-and-arrogance-i-hated-everything-about-america-until-i-moved-here/?hpid=z5

I was always fascinated about America and I still am, even after having lived in this country for more than two decades. Although I watched and liked many Hollywood action & western movies in India, was completely oblivious to the gun culture (of course, that was nearly a generation prior to this author's experience & before information age), had no exposure to American returned or those visiting home. Things that shocked me the most were short hairs and conservatism despite being aware of slavery and the treatment meted out to the blacks. I guess, I subconsciously assumed that was a thing of past and everyone is a changed person. In any case, at the end of the day, I can proudly say that America made me a better person and gave me a different perspective of looking at things. I probably would've lived like a chaddi had I lived in India all my life.

Instead you turned out to be an anti-hindu, iSlami-loving , "fake, liberal, intellectual" show-off.

P.S. this is an important post that sheds some points on why you are like what you are.
On second thought, I probably wouldn't have been as bad. My father, cousins and friends who live in India aren't Chaddis so the chances are I'd have been like them.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:06 pm

confuzzled dude wrote:
Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/30/guns-sex-and-arrogance-i-hated-everything-about-america-until-i-moved-here/?hpid=z5

I was always fascinated about America and I still am, even after having lived in this country for more than two decades. Although I watched and liked many Hollywood action & western movies in India, was completely oblivious to the gun culture (of course, that was nearly a generation prior to this author's experience & before information age), had no exposure to American returned or those visiting home. Things that shocked me the most were short hairs and conservatism despite being aware of slavery and the treatment meted out to the blacks. I guess, I subconsciously assumed that was a thing of past and everyone is a changed person. In any case, at the end of the day, I can proudly say that America made me a better person and gave me a different perspective of looking at things. I probably would've lived like a chaddi had I lived in India all my life.

Instead you turned out to be an anti-hindu, iSlami-loving , "fake, liberal, intellectual" show-off.

P.S. this is an important post that sheds some points on why you are like what you are.
On second thought, I probably wouldn't have been as bad. My father, cousins and friends who live in India aren't Chaddis so the chances are I'd have been like them.

Not so fast. I have my family members who were are chaddis/commies and I turned out to be a non-chaddi Chaddi, who antagonizes the Chaddis and the anti-Chaddis.

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Post by Propagandhi711 Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:12 pm

Marathadi-Saamiyaar wrote:
confuzzled dude wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/30/guns-sex-and-arrogance-i-hated-everything-about-america-until-i-moved-here/?hpid=z5

I was always fascinated about America and I still am, even after having lived in this country for more than two decades. Although I watched and liked many Hollywood action & western movies in India, was completely oblivious to the gun culture (of course, that was nearly a generation prior to this author's experience & before information age), had no exposure to American returned or those visiting home. Things that shocked me the most were short hairs and conservatism despite being aware of slavery and the treatment meted out to the blacks. I guess, I subconsciously assumed that was a thing of past and everyone is a changed person. In any case, at the end of the day, I can proudly say that America made me a better person and gave me a different perspective of looking at things. I probably would've lived like a chaddi had I lived in India all my life.

Instead you turned out to be an anti-hindu, iSlami-loving , "fake, liberal, intellectual" show-off.

P.S. this is an important post that sheds some points on why you are like what you are.

he was fine until he discovered wapo blogs. then he turned into an intellectual overnight...an insufferable one at that

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Post by MaxEntropy_Man Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:38 pm

what happened to the post? buying blogs from some bored delhi socialite type and putting it on the front page?
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Post by bw Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:04 pm

she hated america when she was in india - once she got the opportunity to move out, live the american dream(and hold an american passport perhaps), she turns a "global citizen". typical "make a virtue of one's life choices".

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:07 pm

bw wrote:she hated america when she was in india - once she got the opportunity to move out, live the american dream(and hold an american passport perhaps), she turns a "global citizen". typical "make a virtue of one's life choices".

Everyone carrying a water bottle, talking in accented english, and thinking and talking about sex and divorce...

I am talking about the damn middal class desi desis.

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Post by Bittu Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:10 pm

The author moved to Houston. Houston is a shit hole.

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Post by Kris Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:06 pm

bw wrote:she hated america when she was in india - once she got the opportunity to move out, live the american dream(and hold an american passport perhaps), she turns a "global citizen". typical "make a virtue of one's life choices".
>> She also got used to the lack of servants, one of the gripes about American life earlier Smile.

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Post by Marathadi-Saamiyaar Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:12 am

Kris wrote:
bw wrote:she hated america when she was in india - once she got the opportunity to move out, live the american dream(and hold an american passport perhaps), she turns a "global citizen". typical "make a virtue of one's life choices".
>> She also got used to the lack of servants, one of the gripes about American life earlier Smile.

That is easy to figure out. It has become almost impossible to get a regular servant/helper for middle class families in Tier 1, 2 or 3 cities.

I observed and experienced a few difficulties during my visit. In one instant, there is a helper who comes home on a temp basis for Rs 100/hr help. You need to call her one day before so she can schedule her time. She goes to 6 to 8 houses a day, and she has a set of conditions as well. So, I am sure these days youthies do their own house chores both in and outside of India.

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Post by Guest Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:20 am

.....and then she becomes an NRI patriot!

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